Goy Bikers and the press

No, I haven’t lost my mind. The members of this motorcycle gang call themselves Goy Bikers. If you ask them why, the answer is "because they like the name." Are they antisemitic? Oh, no, far from it. They are only "Christian and national." They also seem to be irredentists and consider themselves the successors to those Magyars who arrived in the Carpathian basin in the last years of the ninth century. Successors to those group of people who with their periodic raids kept the West fearful. Those "adventurers" were known to be excellent horse- and marksmen who on their fast horses could hit their victims while sending their arrows backwards. The emblem of the Goy Bikers therefore makes sense. Goj_motorosok2

Except they sit on motorcycles and not on horses. Very expensive motorcycles. And there are many of them. Every weekend they have an outing. Among the scheduled events have been trips to villages where a lot of Roma (Gypsies) live and where some kind of a crime was committed by Gypsies. It is clear that their intent is to frighten people, people they don’t like. If they don’t like the government then they will try to disrupt some official function as on October 23, 2006, at the fiftieth anniversary of the Hungarian Revolution of October 1956. They roared by during the unveiling of a memorial to the revolution and made such noise with their bikes that not a word could be heard of Domokos Kosáry, perhaps the greatest Hungarian historian of the twentieth century, who himself spent years in jail after the failed revolution. Let me add that Kosáry at this point was in his nineties.

Anyone who is interested in their activities and their political ideas, if you can call them ideas, should visit their website: http://www.gojmotorosok.hu/index.php?page=start where you can order a handsome T-shirt (all in black, of course) pronouncing "I’m a goy!" And by the way, don’t think that there are only a handful of these people who, according to their website, don’t believe that "parliamentary democracy expresses the will of the people."

Until now the main targets were Gypsies, but the Goy Bikers finally decided that they had had enough of the media too. Not all the media, of course, but those who "provoke" them. In a biweekly satirical publication, Hócipő, a journalist named Iván Andrassew who is actually a full-time member of the social democratic paper, Népszava, wrote an article about the Goy Bikers in which he poked fun at them. The Goys didn’t like it. Didn’t like it at all. The answer was to have a Goy Bikers’ demonstration against Népszava on April 29th. This will be a show of force, aiming to frighten the staff.

One has to keep in mind that Népszava is a social democratic paper with a proud tradition. It was established in 1873 and thus is the oldest Hungarian daily. Until  1948 it was the official paper of the Hungarian Social Democratic Party and as such it has gone through a lot: mostly bad things. During the Austro-Hungarian monarchy the Hungarian government wasn’t exactly crazy about the social democrats who in those days were much more to the left than they are today. During the Hungarian Soviet Republic (1919) Népszava was attacked by communists and anarchists. After the fall of Béla Kun’s regime (August 1919) came Miklós Horthy and his national army officers who were certainly no friends of social democracy or Népszava. Two of the paper’s journalists were kidnapped and assassinated. The perpetrators were never punished. The paper was often censored during the Horthy regime, and after the Germans occupied Hungary Népszava’s building was ransacked. After 1948 the communists made sure that Népszava lost its independence; it was relegated to being the official newspaper of the trade unions. Népszava, however, revived in 1990 and it has been a voice of the left ever since. Thus, it supports the socialist government but also gives space to moderate right-wing opinions as well.

The Hungarian left-liberal press and people who are against this resurgence of neo-nazi activism are outraged. Ferenc Gyurcsány promised to be there, in front of the building where they are going to hold a peaceful picnic. Whether the Goy Bikers show up or not, we will see, but if they come they will look like this:

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I told you, there are a lot of them and these guys are not poor. Look at those bikes. Millions of forints worth of metal and very few brains in the heads.

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Odin's lost eye
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What I have written here will upset people –GOOD! What attracted my notice was the word “GOY” I have come across this word several times. It is a Yiddish word for ‘Gentile’. Yiddish is a central/eastern European language spoken mainly by those of the Jewish persuasion. Thanks to a wicked little Austrian house painter and his bunch of ‘Nasties’ it is probably now defunct, although it is still found occasionally amongst older East End (of London) market folk. The main word you will hear is ‘Muzzel’ (Muzzeltof) meaning ‘cheers’, but ‘goy’ is also used. In this usage it seem to indicate that the person referred to tried to cheat you but you cheated him instead. It also seems to be connected (unpleasantly) in some way with ‘Free Masonry’. In the late 18th or early 19th centenary a loony Russian Archduke wrote a book called the ‘Protocols of the Elders of Zion’. This book is very anti-any one who was not a Russian Archduke. The author (in translation) used the word “GOY” to indicate that Free Masons were under strict Jewish control. All of this should be as popular with the far right, as a pork pie in a synagogue (or… Read more »
Vándorló
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The code for the website is a bit better than a dreamweaver hacker. And the intergration of the interfaces, particularly for the forum shows a decent amount of experience (as ugly as it still is). Anyway, looking at the domain name records: M-GREET -I- [www.gojmotorosok.hu] Domi version 20080425 M-PNAM -I- [www.gojmotorosok.hu] primary NS name: zns01.zuriel.hu M-PADD -I- [www.gojmotorosok.hu] primary NS addr: 195.228.156.151 M-GLUE -W- [www.gojmotorosok.hu] glue record in zone gojmotorosok.hu ns zns01.zuriel.hu M-GLUE -W- [www.gojmotorosok.hu] glue record in zone gojmotorosok.hu ns zns02.zuriel.hu M-GLUE -W- [www.gojmotorosok.hu] glue record in zone gojmotorosok.hu a 217.20.128.4 M-GLUE -W- [www.gojmotorosok.hu] glue record in zone gojmotorosok.hu mx 20 mail02.gojmotorosok.hu M-GLUE -W- [www.gojmotorosok.hu] glue record in zone gojmotorosok.hu mx 10 mail01.gojmotorosok.hu M-PGET -I- [www.gojmotorosok.hu] getting domain from NS 195.228.156.151 … M-PRZO -W- [www.gojmotorosok.hu] cannot download domain from 195.228.156.151 M-RERR -W- [www.gojmotorosok.hu] SOA parameters don’t comply with RIPE M-NOSE -E- [www.gojmotorosok.hu] No secondary So it isn’t fully configured (maybe an oversight). More intereresting: Server: zns01.zuriel.hu. Address: 195.228.156.151#53 gojmotorosok.hu origin = zns01.zuriel.hu mail addr = imiblues.gojmotorosok.hu serial = 1205961277 refresh = 1800 retry = 900 expire = 172800 minimum = 172800 gojmotorosok.hu nameserver = zns01.zuriel.hu. gojmotorosok.hu nameserver = zns02.zuriel.hu. Name: gojmotorosok.hu Address: 217.20.128.4 From this it is clear that… Read more »
Jim T
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A better translation of “motorosok” would be “bikers,” as “cyclists” is the term generally (almost always, in fact) used for bicycle riders. “Bikers,” though, has a touch of macho, though it in fact goes both ways (?!). I say this as a translator and bicycle rider.

Hotpaprika
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Nice to see Hungarians uniting..here version of History makes more sense then the Modern History of Today!!

Hotpaprika
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Maybe to you Eva, however It’s comforting to know that Hungarians are able to express there own belief system, for it is there country and majority of foreigners have written Hungarian History over the centuries. It’s a free country , if they choice to believe it then why not.. they themsleves have there own reasons, whats wrong in being paasionate about your Culture and nation, many other countries are, you make it sound like a Sin! The Magyars have these symbols in our museums and text books, it’s not that bad a Symbol, quite creative I might add… with Love

Hotpaprika
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That seems to be the Law of Attraction being mirrowed back.. Please remain positive.

Odin's lost eye
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@ Vándorló Thanks I only had a brief look-see and did not dig too deeply into the source code. It is quite common ISPs to provide code for interfaces etc it keeps the customer happy and stops them mucking about with the ISP’s systems. This is especially true of ‘Forums’ where you are trying to stop “Oh! Nasty” ’s from getting into the system. I noticed that the web site hosts ‘zuriel.hu’ have as a slogan ‘Grey Eminence’. It means the ‘shadowy’ (something semi hidden) cardinal. It is used in English to mean the ‘power behind the throne’ (i.e. Cardinals Richelieu and Mazarin). In the matter of the picture, when you look closely at the formation leaders in the picture -above– their faces are not those of youngsters, hence my words about the ‘male menopause’. But as you say *** ….“These are the rich Buda kids. The same people who spend Friday and Saturday night riding back and forth along the Grand Boulevard with their bikes” …****. It just shows how pathetic they are. Having to ride up and down to try to impress and get a girl. I have seen it before, it is pathetic. I find it especially… Read more »
Hotpaprika
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@ Odins lost eye You make me laugh, what’s wrong with nostalgia, I’m not sure whether you are aware but this group of bikers the GOYS are gentlemen compared to the Biker gangs in Australia New Zealand and the USA. If this would have happened in Australia or New Zealand there would have been a Semi Trailer or the like ploughed threw the building, which only happened recently in Perth Australia. What I see with the groups here is much more civil then our so called models of the West, which you inspire us Hungarians to be. Let these gentlemen be at peace they love there Biker lifestyle, it’s no different to any other group that has an interest, they are passionate Hungarians and the lefties are labelling them as Fascist, I too would be pist if that would happen, which biker have you ever seen dressed in a tie or business suit, the outlaw Black leather and rebel theme is the image of these groups. And to be honest you must have been a pretty sloppy biker to not be able to ride without a steering wheel, it’s probably easier to learn on a Bike then a horse to… Read more »
Hotpaprika
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@EVA I love they way you assume, Maybe if you would experience and mix with the people instead of sitting in a protected environment you would have an unbieased view, There is no GOY gangs in Australia, I didn’t mean that, I was refering to gangs like Black Ulans, Australian Rebels, Gypsy Jokers, Mongrel Mob, Black power, and the notorious Bandidos. Here is and article, and compared to this the GOY are Gentlemen. My cousin Paul Keresteesz was a member of the Black Ulans and was in prison for a number of years, set up as a decoy by corrupt police and gang members, also my neighbours were involved in Australia with the Bandidos, were the youngest daughter was herion addict, prostitute and eventual ended up in prison, i wanted to help however this organised crime is very dangerous, i washelpless because the cops work with the gang members. This is all expeience in my life not assumptions made by viewing a few left wing jourmnalists from Népszava. Here is an article from Sydney Morning Herald, and this is very mild to what really happens in reality. Sydney’s overnight bikie shooting should come as no surprise. The penetration of bikie… Read more »
Viking
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I know a few of these guys driving with the GOJs. They are not part of the GOJs, they are either part of other clubs or just independents. The reason to ride is not always a very political one, more to belong to the group and that mass make you feel good. The guys I know, not specifically GOJ-members, have all their own businesses and they are not the types that would be looking to become members of Hells Angels, Bandidos or Outlaws etc – the real criminal gangs, who are more professional criminals on 2 wheels and with an outspoken lifestyle. It is my surprise that Hungary has so far been spared the Bandidos (who seems to be strongest in Europe right now) and the others. The guys I know have more or less everyone been working, mostly illegal, shortly in the US. They decided that life is more pleasant in Hungary, returned and not so many vote for MSZP/SZDSZ/Fidesz. MIEP/Jobbik is probably overrepresented among them (compared to the rest of the population). One major reason for these guys, that I know, to set up their own business is that they do have a problem with bosses and authorities.… Read more »
Hotpaprika
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@eva
What are you assuming now?

Bill
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@ Hotpaprika
You said “It’s comforting to know that Hungarians are able to express there own belief system, for it is there country and majority of foreigners have written Hungarian History over the centuries. It’s a free country , if they choice to believe it then why not.”
I suppose that’s technically true, you can believe what you want. Believing what is not true, however, doesn’t make you liberated or patriotic or whatever – it just makes you stupid.
I’m sorry that you found this blog. Please take your stupidity back to kuruc.info and leave the grown-up talk to people smart enough to contribute something intelligent to the conversation.
~Bill

Hotpaprika
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@Bill and Eva
You obviously surround yourself with closed minded people, and you have very biased left wing views, you claim you know the truth, that’s being very ignorant and stupid on your behalf. It seems that you have painted yourself into a corner and cut your nose of to spite your face! What if this version is true? and the academies version is propaganda? History has many examples of this occurring, there is no liberal thinking amongst your bloggers, unfortunately! I dread the day the real truth comes out, and sadly you will be too stubborn to acccept it, even if the evidence is in favour of the new knowledge. No wisdom on your behalf that’s for sure.. I hope you have a little question mark within youself..love Paprika

Sandor
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Hey Pepper, your superior attitude, considering your inferior intellect is greatly unjustified.
Academies are totally disinterested by “truths.” Truth is the obsession of dumbells, like you, unable to cope with facts.
It would be nice if you would read a history book, before starting to tell us what is in them. The only question mark I have is about your sanity.
Love brother, and peace too.

Hotpaprika
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Define Sanity ? :-))
You have a lot to learn about life and who is controlling it. However i have faith one day you will awaken to the Knowledge. You love to speculate and I’m not sure how much of a sheltered life you have lived, but I god dam know that politics and religion in any extreme is dividing the people, and with your views and propaganda you are fuelling this divide.. Unfortunately I wish i wouldn’t have read the History at school, but our teachers dont realise what they are doing , unfortunately they are stupid not to realise how screwed up our sytem really is, and the ones that do either are rejected from the system and labelled conspiracy junkies or terrorists, and thats exactly what you are doing, I honestly cant believe how closed minded you can be.. are you that extreme?

Sandor
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It would be insane to define sanity to an insane. If you were not insane, you would know sanity.
Hint: cause-effect.

Katalin
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It’s on the news today, the Goj Motorosok won a lawsuit against a journalist who called them “faschists” on a radio program. What this communicates to Hungarian society is that “It’s a crime to call others faschist” — even if they are.
So in Hungary, you can insult Jews, Roma, queers, communists and liberals – pretty much anyone, in any way you like, as it’s covered by freedom of speech. And if someone calls you a faschist for it, you can sue them, and you win. I wonder when Jobbik launches its first lawsuit now, and against whom.

Eva S. Balogh
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Katalin,
do you have a link/reference for that?
—–COMMENT:
Sophist wants to have a link to Goy Bikers and Tibor Bakács (because it was him) suit. The news appeared in many papers but here is one: http://www.stop.hu/articles/article.php?id=518317

Godot
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“It’s a crime to call others faschist — even if they are”
Are they? Why?
You may call anyone anything, true or not, that’s the freedom of speech.
A newspaper or other media outlet can do the same, but they occasionally get sued and have to pay up.
Biker gangs are uniquely Hungarian, no other nation would allow such groups to exist.

funny Questions
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Any gay bikers in the London area of the UK? Love to hear from you. Regards, Sean?

jhun
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Any gay bikers in the London area of the UK? Love to hear from you. Regards, Sean?

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