Kuruc.info’s Béla Varga of California and Mór

Péter Szijjártó received the fancy title of undersecretary in charge of international communication, but in fact he was demoted. János Lázár, the man Viktor Orbán moved from his positions as mayor of Hódmezővásárhely and leader of the Fidesz parliamentary caucus, became chief of staff in the prime minister’s office, and he immediately decided to do a thorough spring cleaning. Lázár obviously convinced Orbán that Szijjártó, who is the object of ridicule at home, should be let go. Unfortunately, I don’t think that sending him all over the world will do much for his or the country’s reputation.

Szijjártó began his foreign trips by visiting Washington for two or three days. He talked to some people in the State Department and met some of the “most important Jewish leaders” in the United States. He asked them to lend a helping hand to silence kuruc.info, the notorious anti-semitic site that uses a server in the United States. As we discussed at length on July 5 and after, and as László Bartus wrote in Népszava, although the server–Cloudfare as some of our readers discovered–operates from the United States, kuruc.info is edited and published in Budapest. The problem must be remedied in Hungary. Especially as there is a strong possibility that one of kuruc.info’s benefactors, Béla Varga, a winemaker in California, also has a winery in Mór, Hungary.

Varga’s name was widely circulated in 2010 when Tamás Bodoky, an investigative journalist, reported on the financial dealings of kuruc.info and discovered that the advertisers receive no receipts and that the fees must be paid either in U.S. dollars to the bank account of Béla Varga or delivered as cash in a sealed envelope and given to an employee of  Turania, a small shop in District VI. These financial transactions are clearly in violation of the tax laws in both Hungary and in United States.

Why do I write about this particular case today? Because Béla Varga’s name cropped up again, this time in connection with the flashmob organized in front of the house of László Csatáry, who is being investigated for war crimes. A day after the event kuruc.info called on its readers to identify the members of the group who took part in the demonstration. The editors proudly announced that they already managed to learn the identity of “seven anti-Hungarian Jews,” adding that “those who manage to send the most usable data will receive 100,000 forints, 75,000 of which was donated by our brother-in-arms Béla Varga, who lives in the United States.”

Pusztaranger, the excellent German-language blog, also reported on the case. According to the Ranger, within 48 hours 93,000 people read kuruc.info and managed to identify most of the participants. Since then the participants have been harassed on the Internet and by telephone. The Ranger collected a large amount of material on Varga from earlier Hungarian sources, adding some research of his own.

I was intrigued and decided to learn a little more about this Béla Varga. I discovered among other things that the self-portrait Mr. Varga provides in the United States has little resemblance to reality.

First, I couldn’t quite believe that Béla Varga of Napa Valley, California, is the same person as Béla Varga of Mór. Their life stories were so radically different. Let’s start with the Californian Varga. Varga is hailed in wine circles as a very talented winemaker who between 1999 and 2007 was the head of the operations of Claar Cellars. He is described as “a Hungarian by birth who received his Masters Degree in Enology and Viticulture from Budapest University.” In 2007 he changed jobs. He was hired as the winemaker of Callaway Vineyard&Winery. In the press release he is described as someone “with stellar winemaking credentials.” From the press release we find out that he received his M.S. from Budapest University in 1988, the same year he climbed “over the Iron Curtain and scaled barbed wire fences to leave leave his native country. He ended up in Canada where he worked for eight years as winemaker for Vincor, Canada’s largest producer and marketer of wine and related products.”

We also learn from the press release that Béla Varga is a talented jazz pianist. “At the young age of five, Varga began playing the piano by ear and was immediately enrolled in music education schools. He graduated from the Budapest Jazz Conservatory in 1985 and has played with Moe Koffman, Maynard Ferguson and Pat Metheny.”

Béla Varga of California

One doesn’t have to go any farther to know that something is not quite right with the information Varga provided to his new employers at Gallaway Vineyard&Winery. Although it is true that graduates of ELTE (Eötvös Loránd Tudományegyetem) often try to simplify the name of the university and call it simply University of Budapest, ELTE has no Department of Enology and Viticulture.  There is such a department at Gödöllő Agrártudományi Egyetem (nowadays called Szent István Egyetem, Gödöllő). Then I began to look for the Budapest Jazz Conservatory, but the only thing I came up with was the Egressy Béni Zeneművészeti Szakközépiskola és Gimnázium. There they teach jazz, but the trouble is that this high school opened its doors only in 2002 and the first students of the school graduated only in 2006. There is also the problem of climbing over the barbed wire between Austria and Hungary. By then the barbwire fence was mostly gone. Moreover, by then Hungarians could travel freely to the West. Our man most likely simply decided to stay behind.

Béla Varga of Mór

Now let’s see the bio of Béla Varga of Mór where he is the owner of Varga és Fia Pincészet. His own father was already a vintner in the Balaton region. Our man claims that he began learning the ins and outs of winemaking in the Élelmiszeripari Szakközépiskola (a high school specializing in the food industry). His schooling entitled him to the title of “technician” and he worked as such at the Badacsonyvidéki Pincegazdaság in Ászár for a year and a half. After serving two years in the army in 1978, he got a job at the Móri Állami Gazdaság.

At this point Varga resorts to some verbal tricks to conceal the fact that in 1988 he left Hungary and asked for political asylum in Canada. So, if he spent nine years with the vineyards of Mór, he must have left the state company in 1987-88. However, he continues by saying that in 2000 “after the Móri Állami Gazdaság was liquidated” he and his son started a winery of their own on 20-30 hectars. There is a problem here. The Móri Állami Gazdaság was liquidated in 1990 and not in 2000.  Thus, through clever wording Béla Varga’s and his son Máté’s trip to Canada and later to the United States is simply covered up.

The huge difference in the accomplishments of the two Béla Vargas confused me. No, I said, that cannot be the same man. After all, the name Varga is very common. Moreover, I found another Béla Varga who was also a vintner who is an export manager of the Tokaj Kereskedőház. But then I compared the two pictures, one given on a site that devoted considerable energy to uncovering the editors of kuruc.info and the other one that was included in a list of the top 100 vintners in Hungary. There is no doubt there is only one Béla Varga whose Hungarian vineyard is most likely managed by his son, Máté.

Apparently, the Budapest Chief Prosecutors’ Office is investigating the case. I suggest that they pay a visit to Mór to Varga és Fia Pincészet. One doesn’t have to talk to the American authorities or travel to Napa Valley, California. At the same time perhaps the Internal Revenue Service might be interested in  Béla Varga’s tax returns.

73 comments

  1. Wow what a story, I’m simply speculating but something is damn not right here… This is better then a CSI episode, and since there is actualy a fair amount of money involve my instincts tell me there is a lot bigger picture here.

    I might have already written about a rumor circulating for several years now, that many eastern European

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  2. Wow what a story, I’m simply speculating but something is damn not right here… This is better then a CSI episode, and since there is actualy a fair amount of money involve my instincts tell me there is a lot bigger picture here.

    I might have already written about a rumor circulating for several years now, that many eastern European hard right parties are actually financially backed by the Russian secret service and if you add to this Jobbik’s obvious moskovite tendencies (of course officially it’s just because they serve as an antithesis of the jewish west), I’m getting more and more convinced that there must be some truth to this.

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  3. Eva, Corvinus (Kozgaz) was called Budapest University of Economics for a while (before it was named to Corvinus in 2004). The University of of Horticulture and Food Industry was integrated with Kozgaz (then Budapest University of Economics) in 2003 and they do have a program in Viticulture and Oenology. Now, if Varga had left the country in 1988, I don’t know how he could have gotten a degree from “Budapest University”. In 1988 the University of Horticulture and Food Industry was a separate university, and was called as such (and Kozgaz was then called Marx Karoly University of Economics).

    Anyway if he has such a degree, why it is not in his Hungarian bio?

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  4. An :

    Anyway if he has such a degree, why it is not in his Hungarian bio?

    Simple. Because the only degree he has a high school degree from a school specializing in the food industry. A high-school graduate. Perhaps I was not clear enough. He is a liar. He is not the only one who managed to fool the Americans. I just hope that he is actually a good vintner. Degree or no degree.

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  5. Jano :
    Wow what a story, I’m simply speculating but something is damn not right here… This is better then a CSI episode, and since there is actualy a fair amount of money involve my instincts tell me there is a lot bigger picture here.
    I might have already written about a rumor circulating for several years now, that many eastern European hard right parties are actually financially backed by the Russian secret service and if you add to this Jobbik’s obvious moskovite tendencies (of course officially it’s just because they serve as an antithesis of the jewish west), I’m getting more and more convinced that there must be some truth to this.

    And now it seems to make some sense when a Jobbik leader calls for Hungary to ‘turn
    to the East’….

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  6. Not exactly the story Dr Balogh wrote:
    “A native of Hungary, Bela graduated from the University of Horticulture and Food Sciences of Budapest, one of the oldest universities offering enology and fermentation sciences curricula in Europe, with a Master in Enology in 1988. Upon graduation he married his university sweetheart Judit then together they climbed over the Iron Curtain. As Bela has said, “We love our home, but we could not live in that system.” They moved to Healdsburg, CA where he worked for Chateau Souverain, one of the most prestigious wineries in Sonoma County, as Assistant Winemaker for three years. There he learned the winemaking ins and outs of California giving him great insight and ample opportunities to see both worlds, the old and the new. While at Chateau Soverain he was invited and eventually lured to Niagara Falls, Ontario, by Brights Wines, the largest winery in Canada. There he directed the operations of a three million case winery with products ranging from Champagnes, Ports and Sherries, to Premium and Dessert wines. He learned in his own words “the full scope of products.” While it was an excellent experience and priceless schooling Bela wanted to focus on what he was primarily attracted to — making premium wines of outstanding quality.
    In 1999 he learned that Claar Cellars, a medium-size Premium winery in the Columbia Valley of Washington had an opening for Winemaker. After visiting the winery and touring the vineyards, Claar Cellars offered and Bela accepted the position of Winemaker in August 1999.”
    From:http://vintners.net/wawine/misc/winemakers/bela_varga.html

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  7. This is CloudFlare’s abuse report site where you can file a complaint on kuruc.info:

    https://www.cloudflare.com/abuse/

    Now this “blood money” on the demonstrators is clearly an implied call for violence and is a blatant violation of CloudFlare’s abuse policy.

    This is the url with the “offer” on the kuruc.info:

    http://kuruc.info/r/2/98812

    Please submit a report to them. Let’s see what happens when the number of complaints increases.

    Just a little technical mumbo-jumbo about CloudFlare. They are not a hosting company. Their servers are just sitting between your browser and the kuruc.info servers and provide caching and protection from cyber attacks. They also hide the actual addresses of the physical servers and that makes it attractive to the dregs of the world like the kuruc.info guys.

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  8. Better than CSI indeed. Reading the comments here however, it appears the self-appointed investigators dig themselves ever deeper into the murky details of the unknown abyss. Halloween is just around the corner … trick or treat!

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  9. Kovach: “Not exactly the story Dr Balogh wrote”

    See: http://www.winelegacy.com/ItemDetail.aspx?Item_ID=942

    “The head winemaker, Bela Varga brings a lot of experience to the winery.

    Varga graduated from the University of Budapest with a master’s degree in Enology and Viticulture in 1988. He scaled barbed wire fences to escape his native Hungary before the Iron Curtain came down. He ended up in Canada where he worked for Vincor and later moved to the States where he worked in Washington and California.”

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  10. An.
    He has a Master’s Degree in Oenology from the University of Horticulture and Food Industry. Didn’t fool the Americans, they’re not as dumb as you are and he’s not a liar either. It just proves how unschooled you are in this particular department. You cannot become a reputable Winemaker in the US, Canada or any prestigious wine producing country for that matter, without minimum a Bachelor’s Degree. Sorry to disappoint….

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  11. b.v :
    Better than CSI indeed. Reading the comments here however, it appears the self-appointed investigators dig themselves ever deeper into the murky details of the unknown abyss. Halloween is just around the corner … trick or treat!

    b.v. ? Bad joke.

    Varga should be better prepared with a trick because it’s open season on him. If he lied to the INS he will be deported. Guaranteed.

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  12. WHat iron curtain he scaled? bahaha What a lier, right there. Who was that from the Fidesz (maybe Kover), who also lied about the difficulties to get a passport and that he had to kiss up to get one? Everyone who lived in Hungary in 1988 knows that getting a passport was not difficult. Getting into Austria was like crossing from Pest to Buda. It seems that the group of the politically inclined who support the far right in Hungary is made up from notorious liers.

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  13. The writer of the article tragically did another poor fact-finding job on the musical aspect of the tale. He/she’d been unable to find Hungary’s most famed jazz program operated at the jazz department of the Bela Bartok Conservatory in Budapest since the 70’s, with teachers like Gyula Babos, Szakcsi Lakatos Bela etc….hmmm…not very professional….

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  14. Some 1, well it seems you didn’t live in Hungary in 1988, otherwise you wouldn’t propagate such baloney. In 1988, they were still shooting at you, if you wanted to cross my friend.

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  15. b.v :
    Some 1, well it seems you didn’t live in Hungary in 1988, otherwise you wouldn’t propagate such baloney. In 1988, they were still shooting at you, if you wanted to cross my friend.

    This is interesting. You are both right. If you were a convict or could not get a passport, then yes, it was still difficult to “cross”. But it was ridiculously easy to get a passport in 88. Do you know anything about Varga? Why didn’t he just get a passport?

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  16. Ms, Balogh, Also what makes you think that the IRS has any jurisdiction over this individual’s financials? Why do you surmise that he even has to file a tax return? Well..well..this is turning into a full-scale brain-scratcher doesn’t it?

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  17. Mutt, I may. As far as passports, some people could not obtain them for political reasons. He may not have been granted one, because of anti-communist activities in his university years.

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  18. Dear State Department employees, who are reading this blog. Can you please initiate a background check on Varga? There is a chance that he lied on his immigration papers. Actually he very well can be an implant of a foreign secret service. Plus he’s running a fascist web site.

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  19. Mutt, also, running a “fascist” website is not illegal in the US. You should know that. Punch in fascist, neonazi websites and you can browse to your heart’s desire. C’mon now!

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  20. gdfxx, Now how should I know that? Possible, considering how many millions live and work in the US both legally and illegally. but what makes you think he’s in the US? All of you commenting on Ms. balogh’s article should pose these questions to yourselves before jumping into premature conclusions.

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  21. gdfxx, Here’s the very first question you all should ask yourselves. Does he exist at all/ Is that his real name at all? Thanks to Ms. Balogh’s exhausting policework, you all assume. and you know the saying. Assume makes an a.. out of you and me..

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  22. Thanks for the reference Eva, but I disagree on this one:
    “But then I compared the two pictures, one given on a site that devoted considerable energy to uncovering the editors of kuruc.info”
    My hunch is that there are indeed two Bela Vargas, and kurucwanted, the site exposing him as domain owner of kuruc.info, got the identity mixed up and published an older pic of the Mór one. I think I found the Californian one on Facebook, with some evidence to support it – a regular commentator of kuruc.info, links it a lot on FB, on July 17th he asked for information on the flash mob participants on Facebook, to be sent to a certain email address, and some days later one of the participants received threatening mails from this address (“(you) succeeded to evoke the wrath of one of the most influential nationalist websites on the planet, the fearsome kuruc.info. (…) interested individuals will find you, if not tomorrow, the day after, it’s just a matter of time. (…) A friendly advice….get life insurance.” Details and pic in my post.
    http://pusztaranger.wordpress.com/2012/07/22/3326/

    To support my point, here a FB-Dialogue between journalist Tamás Bodoky and Californian Bela Varga from November 2011, giving a good impression on his general kuruc-style (warning, containing obscenities):

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    http://hu-hu.facebook.com/kaufervirag/posts/284964041547731?comment_id=19858291&offset=0&total_comments=57

    “Tamas Bodoky Bela Varga, long time no see! :) http://kurucwanted.blogspot.com/2008/09/blog-post_7468.html 2011. november 23., 16:28″

    Bela Varga Tamas Bodoky. You’re way out of your league pal. 2011. november 23., 18:32

    Bela Varga Az olvasoknak, Bodoky elvtars egy zsido, aki azt hiszi magarol, hogy a cionista baromsagait ismeretlenul osztogathatja errefele. Nos, o es a baromarcu zsido tarsai probaltak betiltatni a kurucot annak idejen. Bodoky Tamas a neve. Jegyezze fel mindenki, aki esetleges utazasai soran belebotlik. Kernek egy maflast a nevemben is mindaddig, amig I won’t fuck him up the ass with a blazing menora. 2011. november 23., 18:41

    Tamas Bodoky Bela Varga, neked börtönben volna a helyed faji uszításért, nem pedig facebookos észosztó pozícióban, ez a véleményem. Az a kis probléma az IRS-sel rendeződött már? 2011. november 24., 11:48
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    The Californian Bela is originally from Mór, so the two Bélas still could be related and have business contacts worth looking into. The Californian one has business contacts to Hungary for sure, from 2008 as a “retired wine maker” (rather brief employment with Callaway) and jazz pianist, he ran a Hungarian specialty shop, The Red Paprika in Healdsburg.
    http://www.yelp.com/biz/the-red-paprika-healdsburg

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  23. As far as I can see, the balance of probability is that this story is pretty much spot-on. What’s still behind the curtain is how much of this the Hungarian (if not the American) authorities already knew for years but chose to do nothing.

    However, it’s now in Orbán’s political interest to act. It suggests that Fidesz’ commitment to fighting antisemitism isn’t just talk, it goes one step towards redeeming his party in Israel’s eyes and it discredits Jobbik’s credentials as the “clean hands” party. Win, win, win.

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  24. b.v :

    gdfxx, Here’s the very first question you all should ask yourselves. Does he exist at all/ Is that his real name at all? Thanks to Ms. Balogh’s exhausting policework, you all assume. and you know the saying. Assume makes an a.. out of you and me..

    We don’t have to ask ourselves anything. We know he exists. We know that he lives in the United States and his name is Béla Varga.

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  25. Pusztranger: “My hunch is that there are indeed two Bela Vargas, and kurucwanted, the site exposing him as domain owner of kuruc.info, got the identity mixed up and published an older pic of the Mór one”

    Very possible but I hope we will sort all this out and someone will be able stop Béla Varga (b.v.) from financing neo-Nazi websites and threatening people in Hungary and in this country. I am telling right here that if he tries any monkey business with me I’m going straight to the F.B.I.

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  26. b.v :
    Better than CSI indeed. Reading the comments here however, it appears the self-appointed investigators dig themselves ever deeper into the murky details of the unknown abyss. Halloween is just around the corner … trick or treat!

    What comments are you referring to? The “small time” investigators seem bang on to me. Maybe you should freshen up on your own research skills so you do not stay in the dark. Halloween was over after all in October and it seems you are still in the hiding mood.

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  27. b.v :
    An.
    He has a Master’s Degree in Oenology from the University of Horticulture and Food Industry. Didn’t fool the Americans, they’re not as dumb as you are and he’s not a liar either. It just proves how unschooled you are in this particular department. You cannot become a reputable Winemaker in the US, Canada or any prestigious wine producing country for that matter, without minimum a Bachelor’s Degree. Sorry to disappoint….

    …or with fake degrees like Pal Schmitt/

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  28. b.v :
    Some 1, well it seems you didn’t live in Hungary in 1988, otherwise you wouldn’t propagate such baloney. In 1988, they were still shooting at you, if you wanted to cross my friend.

    Well, it seems you got your information from the wrong people. I did live in Hungary in 1988.
    In 1987 I did visit Vienna twice, Yugoslavia once. I took a vacation to Italy in 1984. I also visited Greece, Cyprus and Egypt in 1987. This is all after that in 1980 I was reprimanded for participating in a peace march, in 1986 (I could be off with a year or two here) were requested to the district Communist Party Headquarters for interfering with party matters, the same year I was requested to the district city hall by the district major (or that is the city councillor) and told that I will not be able to stay or enroll in any Hungarian universities because of my activities against party members. I was also blacklisted in 1983 or 84 (I cannot recall) for journalism. This was after I happened to make an interview with a close friend of Gyorgy Aczel, and I surprised the person with some hard facts about how he abused his office.
    I did left the country in 1988 with a passport! I would assume things just improved after.
    So, tell me why didn’t you get a passport or why did you have to climb some barbed wires?

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  29. b.v :
    gdfxx, Here’s the very first question you all should ask yourselves. Does he exist at all/ Is that his real name at all? Thanks to Ms. Balogh’s exhausting policework, you all assume. and you know the saying. Assume makes an a.. out of you and me..

    b.v,
    Strange that you’re defending someone that you think doesn’t exist! Hmmm..

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  30. I will lay a Sovereign to a pinch of salt that the true ownership and the methods used to finance and edit the website are known to several organisations in several countries. At least one is watching the cash movements back to the prime financers. They could probably tell you which aeroplane brought the ‘dollars/euros’ in and how they came from Tehran in the first place
    A bit off topic if I were a Jobbik supporter who was paid to look after a non Hungarian before he went on to Bulgaria, I would be very worried.

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  31. Mutt: “Dear State Department employees, who are reading this blog. Can you please initiate a background check on Varga? There is a chance that he lied on his immigration papers. Actually he very well can be an implant of a foreign secret service. Plus he’s running a fascist web site.”
    With name changes could have been written to the Gestapo, the AVH etc.. Do you have practice with this?

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  32. Louis Kovach :
    Mutt: “Dear State Department employees, who are reading this blog. Can you please initiate a background check on Varga? There is a chance that he lied on his immigration papers. Actually he very well can be an implant of a foreign secret service. Plus he’s running a fascist web site.”
    With name changes could have been written to the Gestapo, the AVH etc.. Do you have practice with this?

    Nope. First time. Congratulation on comparing the State Department to the Gestapo. What country’s hospitality do you enjoy, Kovach?

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  33. Louis Kovach :
    Mutt: “Congratulation on comparing the State Department to the Gestapo.”
    NO, I compared You to those who sent in anonymous reports on folks based on hearsay.

    In case you missed it, Kovach …

    Bela Varga offered financial reward for personal data of people who’s life is now in danger because extra-right thugs are harassing them. This is not hearsay this is a real accusation. By the way this is also investigated by the BRFK (Budapest Police Department) right at this moment.

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  34. Mutt Damon :

    Louis Kovach :
    Mutt: “Congratulation on comparing the State Department to the Gestapo.”
    NO, I compared You to those who sent in anonymous reports on folks based on hearsay.

    In case you missed it, Kovach …
    Bela Varga offered financial reward for personal data of people who’s life is now in danger because extra-right thugs are harassing them. This is not hearsay this is a real accusation. By the way this is also investigated by the BRFK (Budapest Police Department) right at this moment.

    I think Mutt calling on any sources to stop this hate mongering nazi, who offers blood money to identify people who express their opinion that the neo-nazis do not like is the right thing to do. Kovach obviously prefers money laundering activities by neo nazis. It does not make me wonder although, as he supports the Hungarian government false accusations against Gyurcsany but have a problem with neo nazis attempt to not pay taxes. Maybe when the number comes up how much Varga owes, Kovach will flip the bill, as Varga’s share was paid by the other tax payers in Hungary and in the USA so far.

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  35. OT: On the difficulties of translating degrees. A friend needed an official Hungarian translation of his degrees in order to get a work permit for a visa. He had a Bachelor of Arts (in politics and history). So he sent in a translation (maybe using bölcsészet “humanities”) to be approved, but when it came back from OFFI, the official state translation agency, he had been promoted to having a degree in festmény “painting”.

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  36. Some1:”It does not make me wonder although, as he supports the Hungarian government false accusations against Gyurcsany but have a problem with neo nazis attempt to not pay taxes”

    I have not written a single word supporting accusations against Gyurcsany, although I think I could based on similar hearsay as you guys are using.

    If Varga does not pay taxes the IRS will go after him, what is your proof of him not paying? My feeing about neo-nazis is the same as about “old” commies!

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  37. Eva S. Balogh :
    Pusztranger: “My hunch is that there are indeed two Bela Vargas, and kurucwanted, the site exposing him as domain owner of kuruc.info, got the identity mixed up and published an older pic of the Mór one”
    Very possible but I hope we will sort all this out and someone will be able stop Béla Varga (b.v.) from financing neo-Nazi websites and threatening people in Hungary and in this country. I am telling right here that if he tries any monkey business with me I’m going straight to the F.B.I.

    Way to tell him, Eva!

    His Moscow handlers certainly won’t like the FBI getting involved…

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  38. Mutt Damon :

    Louis Kovach :
    Mutt: “Congratulation on comparing the State Department to the Gestapo.”
    NO, I compared You to those who sent in anonymous reports on folks based on hearsay.

    In case you missed it, Kovach …
    Bela Varga offered financial reward for personal data of people who’s life is now in danger because extra-right thugs are harassing them. This is not hearsay this is a real accusation. By the way this is also investigated by the BRFK (Budapest Police Department) right at this moment.

    Oy vay! Mutt, Mutt, Mutt, Mutt…..You’re putting faith in the BRFK!??

    Have you not noticed that in almost every case concerning nazis,
    the police have shielding the Hungarian accused?

    Go have a peek at “The Music Box” again.

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  39. b.v :
    gdfxx, Now how should I know that? Possible, considering how many millions live and work in the US both legally and illegally. but what makes you think he’s in the US? All of you commenting on Ms. balogh’s article should pose these questions to yourselves before jumping into premature conclusions.

    Isn’t he the head winemaker of a vineyard in California?

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  40. gdfxx: “Isn’t he the head winemaker of a vineyard in California?”

    Ne he is not. Dr Balogh forgot to check the date of her info. Callaway had a new winemaker already in 2011. She certainly does not qualify as an investigative journalist. There are basic rules in journalism: Who , What, When, Where….then you may venture into Why. She generally starts out with her presumed “why” and misses some of the other important points

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  41. Enuff: “Strange that you’re defending someone that you think doesn’t exist! Hmmm..”
    Did I say I think he doesn’t exist? Defending him? What made you to arrive at such conclusion? The obvious questions arising upon reading the above literary masterpiece?

    Some1: Your life story is really touching. Especially the parts where special emphases are put on various extremities in connection with party officials and the final amazing catharsis. You should write a book! No kidding.

    Louis Kovach: The problem with commenters’ arguments is that they presuppose, prejudicate at the incitement of the article’s writer.

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  42. 1. About difficulties on translating a

    Dubious :
    OT: On the difficulties of translating degrees.

    It works the other way around too. My first degree, from Budapest, was from a vocational college: “Kereskedelmi, és Vendéglátóipari Főiskola” (College for Trade and Catering) Decades later when I applied to US colleges they needed a transcript from that school. That’s when I learned that my college got combined with other colleges and is now under the umbrella organization of “Budapest Gazdasági Főiskola”. So now my official English transcript says I have a BA in Economics from the Budapest Business School. Sounds much better, doesn’t it?

    2. The website for the Red Paprika store, that was mentioned above, is down. Their Yelp.com listing has only one review from 18 months ago. However the store existed for sure a year ago, last time I was in Healdsburg, CA. I would offer to go there again and check it out, but don’t want to use the same methods as kuruc.info is using. I am wondering when was the last time Mr. Varga made any wine in the US.

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  43. b.v :
    The problem with commenters’ arguments is that they presuppose, prejudicate at the incitement of the article’s writer.

    Right. Without the encouragment with would not hate nazis.

    Look. Let’s just get the facts. That Bela Varga in California and his wife Judit Varga are the people who registered the kurucz.info domain. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that the same people offered the blood money on the kurucz.info which is a criminal matter by the way.

    Trust me buddy. It’s open season on the guy. Somebody will find some dirt on him sooner or later, tax issues, immigration. You’ll see. Somebody will find the guys SSN and then all kind of interesting things will happen to him. So don’t try to create a Keyser Soze here. He’s a real man and he’ll burn his ass.

    On yelp there is nice photo of Mr Varga and his wife.

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  44. b.v :
    Some1: Your life story is really touching. Especially the parts where special emphases are put on various extremities in connection with party officials and the final amazing catharsis. You should write a book! No kidding.

    I live the books for others. I do not claim to be a writer or have intention to start writing. I do not claim degrees I do not have (like Schmitt) for example. I did have to put the “special emphases on various extremities in connection with party officials and the final amazing catharsis” as it was YOU who claimed that I have no idea about the Hungarian situation in 1988, and the next step from you would be to say probably is that it was easy for me as I must of been so cosy with the communists. Well, I was not, and I still “enjoyed” a passport. You forgot from your reply the story of how did you climbed the wire fence. My facts were about the “open borders” by 1988, so we are on pins and needles to hear your gut wrenching story about climbing the barbed wires. Do not spare us, bring it on.
    Also, my story had no catharsis or big movie ending. I got my little passport, purchased and airplane ticket at IBUSZ (next to Bastya mozi) and got on the plane. No fences, no barbed wires. I live that tales to Kover and Varga and You b.v. So tell us the cathartic story.

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  45. Mutt, was this a threat? You want my ass burnt? Well, well, you’ve come to the right place. Ms. Balogh blogesphere. She’ll hunt you down for uttering threats. Isn’t that right Ms. Balogh?

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  46. Some1, Yes, I kinda guessed you didn’t live the books, they’re hard to digest. So is your story, however voluntarily presented with your brave putting a name to a face nick. Alright, reveal your identity for all to see and get my gut wrenching story. Easy deal.

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  47. Louis Kovach :
    Some1:”It does not make me wonder although, as he supports the Hungarian government false accusations against Gyurcsany but have a problem with neo nazis attempt to not pay taxes”
    I have not written a single word supporting accusations against Gyurcsany, although I think I could based on similar hearsay as you guys are using.
    If Varga does not pay taxes the IRS will go after him, what is your proof of him not paying? My feeing about neo-nazis is the same as about “old” commies!

    OK, I hav no time to do a search on your Gyurcsany mania, and maybe you are right, maybe you did not support the accusations against Gyurcsany (I leave out your disruption with non-related items), so I just leave it that you are a person who generally supports neo-nazis and nazis, like Horthy, Nyiro, etc. Would this satisfy you?
    I have no proof about Varga not paying taxes. You nailed it on the head, it is the IRS job to figure out what to do with the cash payments. Let me quote you from Eva’s post as you as usal missed some important info “Tamás Bodoky, an investigative journalist, reported on the financial dealings of kuruc.info and discovered that the advertisers receive no receipts and that the fees must be paid either in U.S. dollars to the bank account of Béla Varga or delivered as cash in a sealed envelope and given to an employee of Turania, a small shop in District VI. So, as you may see, it is not me who accuses, or can support that accusations, but I do believe Bodoky. You choose to believe Horthy, I choose to believe Bodoky.

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  48. b.v :
    Mutt, was this a threat? You want my ass burnt? Well, well, you’ve come to the right place. Ms. Balogh blogesphere. She’ll hunt you down for uttering threats. Isn’t that right Ms. Balogh?

    Varga, I know the English language is hard, but can you show me where did I personally threatened you?

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  49. Muttyboy, that’s right. You simply implied. Good enough for me. “He’s a real man and he’ll burn his ass.”
    You wish, along with your “nazihunter” dummies. Ain’t gonna happen…sorry..

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  50. b.v :
    Muttyboy, that’s right. You simply implied. Good enough for me. “He’s a real man and he’ll burn his ass.”
    You wish, along with your “nazihunter” dummies. Ain’t gonna happen…sorry..

    Varga,
    It was just a friendly advise. As you suggested to somebody to “get life insurance” I would suggest to you to sign up with an identity theft protection service. Also find a good tax attorney and I would consider a budget divorce lawyer too, but of course it depends on your personal situation. Thousands of car dealers or mortgage agents can pull a full credit on you and your wife. Then there are the tax report verification services, where they can get your 1040s 5 years back. Ouch, those audits are embarrassing especially when you have a small business! Make sure you monitor your credit cards for fraudulent charges. It usually starts with a 10 dollar charge on a bogus internet provider or a porn site. Oh, yes. Those are the good ones. They will re-sell your card number immediately. The the 4k plasma screens will show up. In your case it could be really funky when you get a Jewish FBI agent and you tell them why are these things happening to you. Or a black cop goes on the kuruc.info. Oh, brother. I just want to help you. Really.

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  51. b.v :
    Some1, Yes, I kinda guessed you didn’t live the books, they’re hard to digest. So is your story, however voluntarily presented with your brave putting a name to a face nick. Alright, reveal your identity for all to see and get my gut wrenching story. Easy deal.

    What difference does it make if you know my name? I am not running for office or hold any office. I am not a person who you would read about in any papers (maybe in the local news). My name could be Tamas Somor. My name would make this story any more real? WHat part of the story blows your mind? You cannot imagine that people had a passport in Hungary? Even Rajk Jr. had a passport and so did Orban and he was this big communist fighter, did you forget? You must of done something amazing against the communists that you had t climb the barbwire fences (wherever they were), and if you can just tell as your story that would be great. No names, as I understand you are still afraid that the communists will hunt you down. Honestly, this is the last time I will bother you.

    Now for those who are interested further in the Hungarian border situation in 1988.
    THe quote below is from the writing of Dr Miklos Walko (he served as the North and South American manager for Ibusz, the Hungarian Travel Co at least in 1990 according to the Washington Post) The last 40 years tourism advancement in Hungary
    (The just of it is that in 1988 as the consequence of the Perestrojka, they introduced the “world passport” there was a more liberal way with border issues and so forth…)
    “A peresztrojka által indított enyhülés a kiutazó forgalom liberalizációját is eredményezte, így 1988-ban sor került a magyar „világútlevél” bevezetésére. A jobb valutaellátás és liberalizált vámszabályoknak és később a vízumkötelezettség fokozatos leépítésének köszönhetően ugrásszerűen megnőtt a külföldi utazások, köztük a bevásárló utak, a Gorenje és bunda-túrák száma.”

    Now interestingly, there were some further efforts to ease on the the few “restrictions” that still existed. These restrictions did not effect to many, but those to whom against there were under prosecution (as I have mentioned above, it did not effect Orban for example). One of the “Beszelo” (1988/3) (Talk) issue contained an article regarding the a group of young opposition leaders’ efforts to further the rights to those who the police would use the righ to travel as bargaining chip. THe group of “youngsters” actually were on hunger strike to bring attention to this issue. (No, Orban or Kover was not amongst them, but Demszky and Koszeg for example. Interesting! They were the ones who were fighting against the remains of communism, but I do not believe they had to climb any wire fences either.) THey also said “The new tvr passport that entered into force on January 1st 1988 – with the elimination of exit permits – brought in a quality of change that can be reported.”
    “http://beszelo.c3.hu/cikkek/allampolgari-kezdemenyezes-uj-torveny-kidolgozasara

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  52. Mutt Damon, Your comment at 7:05PM on The hunters and the hunted: Kuruc.info’s list of anti-Hungarians. Let’s stick with it. I will stick with it too, as we do not want this blog to go down to the style of Magyar Nemzet and Magyar Hirlap. Louis found a great new friend, so let them enjoy each other.

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