Viviane Reding is the target in the Hungarian “war of independence”

It is truly amazing how fast “scandals” can break out in Hungary especially if, as I suspect, there is a concerted effort on the part of the government to create them. Here I was without a computer for two days and almost missed “the greatest scandal of the European Union.” Or at least this is what Fidesz MEP László Surján claims. He was talking about accusations originating in Hungarian circles about Viviane Reding, European Commissioner  for Justice, Fundamental Rights and Citizenship. She is accused of trying to cast a shadow on the outcome of next year’s national election. Of course, the assumption is that Fidesz will again win the election, but the “enemies of Hungary” led by Viviane Reding herself will question the validity of this outcome.

What happened? On the morning of June 18 Magyar Nemzet came out with a news item that began an avalanche of articles, to be precise fifteen in number, within two and a half days. According to the article, the paper received information from Brussels that Reding along with José Manuel Barroso had attended the Bilderberg Conference held in England between June 6 and 9. The Bilderberg Group which organizes these conferences was created with a view to building bridges between the United States and the European Union. It is often the target of far-right groups in the U.S. as well as in Europe.

At the conference allegedly fifteen minutes were devoted to the case of Hungary during which Reding informed her audience of her efforts on behalf of the Hungarian opposition to cast a shadow on the purity of the forthcoming Hungarian elections. These opposition forces are allegedly being financed by the United States. In no time it also became clear that Gordon Bajnai and Ferenc Gyurcsány are involved in this plot as well. At this point Magyar Nemzet didn’t reveal the origin of its story but later we found out that the source was an unnamed Italian “official.”

By the afternoon the Fidesz script was already written. It was most likely also decided that it will be the Christian Democrats who will lead the charge against Reding. I guess the Fidesz strategists remain convinced that those “ignorant bureaucrats” in Brussels don’t realize that Fidesz and KDNP are one and the same. Occasionally there is a division of labor depending on the issue. In any case, a few hours after the first article appeared on June 18 the Christian Democrats already had a communiqué ready. They will sue Reding and everybody else involved. By the next day they demanded her resignation. A Christian Democrat MEP, László Surján, officially approached the appropriate committee to investigate her case. He also called for her resignation.

Meanwhile back home Zsolt Semjén, chairman of the party and deputy prime minister; Péter Harrach, whip of the Christian Democratic caucus; and the spokesman of the party, István Pálffy, did the talking. They were everywhere, but HírTV, the pro-government television station owned by the same group that is in charge of Magyar Nemzet, was especially full of interviews. By the time the Christian Democrats began talking in the electronic media there was no doubt in their minds that Reding is guilty of the charge. She really did reveal that she was conspiring with the Hungarian opposition against the rightful government of the country.  Harrach was especially adamant. Perhaps they will not be able to prove it, but they are convinced that the report coming from Brussels is “true.” Reding should not only be removed but should disappear altogether from the political life of her country and the Union. Pálffy even went so far as to talk about possible withdrawal from the Union if the present structure of the EU is changed in 2020.

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On what basis does the Hungarian government hiding behind the nonexistent Christian Democratic party accuse Viviane Reding of criminal behavior? The man who first reported that Reding would attend the Bilderberg Conference was István Lovas, Magyar Nemzet‘s correspondent in Brussels. The readers of Hungarian Spectrum are most likely unfamiliar with his name because lately he hasn’t been in the limelight unlike during the 1998-2002 period when he had a rather unsavory reputation. At that time he was in charge of creating a right-wing pro-Fidesz corps of journalists. His students were told to keep lists of “unreliable” foreign journalists who were critical of the first Orbán government. Altogether he has a murky past. As a young man in Hungary he was accused of rape. Later he illegally left Hungary and worked for Radio Free Europe in Munich for a while, but apparently he couldn’t get along with anyone. He also spent some time in California where he left behind a wife and child whom he refused to support.

In any case, Lovas claims that sometime in April a mysterious Italian official approached him with the news that Reding would be attending the Bilderberg Conference. Lovas approached Reding’s spokeswoman who told him that this was the first time she had heard about such a trip. So he dropped the story, but the journalists at Magyar Nemzet didn’t. They madly tried to learn something about the Bilderberg Group and were happy to discover that an economist known for her far-right views was the first in Hungary to call attention to this evil secret organization. Then they approached the liberal Paul Lendvai who attended three of these conferences between 1968 and 1993. Lendvai assured them that there was nothing sinister about these meetings between politicians and influential European and American businessmen. I’m certain that the Magyar Nemzet journalists opted to believe the right-leaning economist and not Paul Lendvai, whom they consider “an enemy of the country.” Obviously the Bilderberg Group and Reding interested them greatly, and they published a number of articles about the Bilderberg conferences.

Then came June 5 when Lovas’s mysterious informer, the Italian official,  told him that the conference would have a 15-minute discussion on Hungary. The conference ended on June 10, and I assume that further details about this 15-minute discussion must have reached Lovas soon thereafter. So why the long wait to break the story? My guess is that Magyar Nemzet withheld it until Fidesz-KDNP could create its own version.

What most likely helped their work was that during the weekend both Gordon Bajnai and Ferenc Gyurcsány talked about the growing fear that is gripping the country and about stories circulating of hidden cameras above the voting booths. With that the connection between Reding and the opposition could easily be established.

Reding categorically denied the story and the European Commission announced that it has no intention of investigating Reding’s alleged criminal activity.

By the way, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if Hungary actually came up in the discussion. After all, the Hungarian government’s behavior in the European Union has been causing considerable headache for the EU leadership and parliament lately. Reding may even have described the general atmosphere in Hungary and the fear of political retribution spreading in the country. However, the rest of the story is simply unbelievable. Reding is a seasoned politician who has been in political life since 1979; she wouldn’t share such a bizarre story even if it were true. As I said, she may have talked about the fear of possible electoral fraud and/or fear of the almighty and very aggressive Fidesz. But the rest of the story was concocted somewhere in the witches’ kitchen of Fidesz-KDNP’s strategists.

But this is a dangerous game. Both Barroso and Reding are members of the European People’s party. What do the Hungarian Christians want to achieve with this frontal attack on a fellow Christian Democrat? I can’t imagine that this attack could possibly help the Hungarian cause. But perhaps their minds work differently from mine.

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andysomos
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Very patiently outlined ! I live in North East Hungary, territory for fidesz and non-liberal thinking. Try explaining your reasoning as I try to a steel-worker friend. But he just repeats incessantly: “Those bureaucrats are against us in Brussels. They taking their frustration out on poor liiitle Hungary.”

I dare you to come up with a simple explanation that I can hand to him. Would you be so kind? I’ll do the translation if needed.

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Andy: I di ask the following question from many of those Fidesz Troopers who you see often posting here: Why would any foreign identity want to buy up or take over Hungary? What is it to gain? Some of our readers’ right leaning relatives are sure that it is for the fresh water. In fact I posted a serious charts about that Hungary’s fresh water is mainly form outside the country. THe agriculture is collapsing at the present time. The world is in financial crises as we discuss this, and not for a moment a serious thinking individual could believe that the USA or the EU would have the time and energy to invest so much in a Hungarian takeover. At this point in time they try to solve their own economical crises and Hungary is not the answer.
So, who can really make profits in Hungary? THe Simicskas, and their interests. Follow the tobacco, follow the land deals, and follow the government contracts. THat is where the money is, and that is something that some will not be giving up easily, and it is not Reding.

hungariaPride
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I can be so easy to generate negative PR against a party like FIDESZ.
The focus must be on: to be free or not to be free?
The next point is the FIDESZ AMT machine that accepts only select ATM cards.
The two subjects have to be headline material every morning.

Karl Pfeifer
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Some details of that shady character István Lovas: >>A rather “interesting” variation on the theme is encountered in Hungary and belongs to Istvan Lovas, who happens to be Jewish. His ethnic origin helps, of course, those interested in propagating precisely such opinions. Lovas argues that Jewish suffering during the Holocaust is largely due to the fact that Jews had sided with the Allies and, what is more, participated in revolts in ghettos and concentration camps (Braham, 2001). Lovas’s publishing outlets include Kairosz Kiado, which has brought up his “collected works.” The same publisher puts on the market the works of “historians” associated with the official 21st Century Institute, headed by former Premier Victor Orban’s senior adviser, Maria Schmidt (see Kenedi, 2001). <>Imre Kertész’s Nobel prize – according to some highly dubious but nevertheless clear logic – whipped up a renewed wave of Holocaust relativism in a quite small circle, but strongly nonetheless. The representatives of this logic propose it out of fear and caution before “we strong-arm Hungary into a mea culpa as Germany was.”12 István Lovas, for example, – as we find out from an open letter to Péter Bárándy13 – had no qualms about spending money in Italy… Read more »
Karl Pfeifer
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For critical overview of Lovas’s background and political-historical views, see, for example. Sándor Révész, “Egy plagizátor” (A Plagiarizer), Élet és Irodalom (Liefe and Literature), Budapest, April 10, 2001; László Karsai, “Holokauszt, egyediség, tények, hazugságok” (The Holocaust: Uniqueness, Facts, Lies), ibid; May 11, 2001 Part II appeared in the May 21 issue of ES
The treatment of the Holocaust in Hungary and Romania during the post-communist era
Randolph L. Braham, City University of New York. Institute for Holocaust Studies

oneill
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Actually, might this have been a tactical mistake by the Orbanists?

With all the rumours of possible ballot-box chicanery flying round and with a deep knowledge of Fidesz’s fascist instincts… if I were a part of the democratic opposition, I would be pushing for independent, international election observers for next year.

It can be even sold as a sop to the paranoia of the fundamentalist bigots of the KDNP- you think Reding and her cohort of Hungarian traitors are going to attempt to influence the election? Then get in the independents observers to prove you right?

If the Mafia refuse it, then the natural question internationally will be “why would the government of a EU country not welcome the confirmation of its democratic credentials?”

Alternatively, “this greatest scandal in the EU” could be the first excuse to be utilised in the plan to “postpone” next year’s vote. Not completely beyond the realms of possibility, unfortunately.

Gábor DrKirály
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The European Union and its high ranked persons icnluding Viviane Reding gets what they deserve. They should have known and they did, that Orban bilding an Authoritarianism regime since he won the last election. He started with the ruin of the Constitution, the regulation of the freedom of press, and made many antidemocratic steps only on purpose to remain in power as long as possible. And the European Union does not made anything to stop Orban. What have done that was not enought. The Hungarian people are misused because the Orban government directs the so called Közszolgálati média. These medias are neider objectiv nor true. And the most difficult problem is tha the election of 2014 imposible to win by the Democratic Opposition, beccause of the Hungarian election system tha is created for to winby the Fidesz-KDNP. Even if the contrary could happen this government will cheat the election. Finally. The EU did nothing in time. At the bigining of the fire startid. For the European People Party the loyalty came first. And I am telling you Who had Experienced three dictatorships in my life time, that after not so long you will see how is working the new one… Read more »
Marcel Dé (@MarcelD10)
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«The Bilderberg Group (…) is often the target of far-right groups in the U.S. as well as in Europe.» — Actually, it is even more often the target of far-left groups, at least in “Western” Europe.

Such an angle may indeed seem odd at first sight, considering prominent members of the German CDU, British Conservative Party, Spanish PP, French UMP etc. have attended these conferences in the past twenty years. All EPP member parties at a European level. Now, Mz Reding is often personally taken as a punching-ball by various members of right-wing European parties, but in this case I guess the Magyar Nemzet article gives away the essential talking point: the target is the “left-liberals” (balliberális).

Well, they’re spot-on. Indeed, the EU was built on a political consensus beetween center-left and center-right parties. Although within left- or right- big parties in Europe there are, there has always been, divides on the future steps of the Union, this consensus is still pretty much alive today.

However in this case, it is not an internal debate: this coordinated attack on its own European center-left allies signals that Fidesz-KDNP is heading straight for euroscepticism. They should be excluded from the EPP.

dvhr
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“1996. június 2-án megjelent Izrael állam budapesti honosítási irodájában. Itzhak Blonder jegyzőkönyvébe diktált szavai szerint kérte zsidó honosítását és állampolgárságát Izrael egyik alaptörvénye, a The Law of Return 1. §-a szerint. A Magyarországon egyre erősödő antiszemitizmusra hivatkozott és arra, hogy feleségével együtt egy demokratikus országban szeretné felnevelni a gyerekét. ”

KENEDI JÁNOS
A szavahihetőség és Lovas István – IV.
Elet es Irodalom
XLV. évfolyam 25. szám, 2001. június 22.

hungariaCrying
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Welcome Gábor Király – “Experienced three dictatorships in my life time, that after not so long you will see how is working the new one in the midle of The Democratic Europe. The Hungarian people are not about to enyoj it. But What about you?”

True tragedy. We are screaming here to wake up the sleeping conservative Hungarians,
It is especially difficult with Hungarian exiles in USA, who drip from anti-communism.

Another big sleeping section inside and outside of Hungary is still in denial. The Orban regime stole their freedom and money.

Let us help to wake up the sleepers.

Besides this blog, read galamus.hu. See the Andras Gero article today.

hungariaCrying
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Compliments to Karl Pfeifer.
The rotten disinformation campaigns are remaining an old Hungarian cottage industry.
They count on the hate-filled ignorance of many fellow citizens.

Wakulicus
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andysomos :
Very patiently outlined ! I live in North East Hungary, territory for fidesz and non-liberal thinking. Try explaining your reasoning as I try to a steel-worker friend. But he just repeats incessantly: “Those bureaucrats are against us in Brussels. They taking their frustration out on poor liiitle Hungary.”
I dare you to come up with a simple explanation that I can hand to him. Would you be so kind? I’ll do the translation if needed.

As far as the Polls, and social researches show: The electorate of Hungarian left political parzies are mostly based on less educated workerclass and older pensionsers.

Marcel Dé (@MarcelD10)
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Wakulicus :
As far as the Polls, and social researches show: The electorate of Hungarian left political parzies are mostly based on less educated workerclass and older pensionsers.

Any source of this assertion?

Karl Pfeifer
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hungariaCrying :
Compliments to Karl Pfeifer.
The rotten disinformation campaigns are remaining an old Hungarian cottage industry.
They count on the hate-filled ignorance of many fellow citizens.

Zoltán Zsille asked me in 1990 or 1991 to meet István Lovas. I met him at Gerbeaud in Budapest which was at the time affordable. Lovas asked me to introduce him to my friend Simon Wiesenthal.
Lovas surprised me, when he said “Magyar úriember vagyok” (I am a Hungarian gentleman). I have met quiet a lot of gentlemen in my life, but never one who said I am a gentleman.
I didn’t introduce Lovas to Wiesenthal.

Wakulicus
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Eva S. Balogh :

Marcel Dé (@MarcelD10) :

Wakulicus :
As far as the Polls, and social researches show: The electorate of Hungarian left political parzies are mostly based on less educated workerclass and older pensionsers.

Any source of this assertion?

In fact, exactly the opposite is true. Here is Budapest where the educational attainment of the population is much higher than outside of it and here Fidesz today would lose the elections.

Do you speak about just Bufdapest?
And which parts of Budapest are leftist? The worker-class districts?

Focista
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AndySomos: how come the buracrats are not against Slovakia, Poland, Czech Republic, Lituania etc. Why only Hungary?

Plus: has the Hungarian government been successful, when compared to these countries? The answer is of course no, although to explain GDP and similar data is pretty difficult.

We are no in the same league as Romania and Bulgaria. ALthough the are coming up too (Romania has a much better investment ratio, which will help its economy in the future).

Also, where are the jobs? Orbán promised 1m jobs. Where are they??

Why is it good to let Simicska and friends steal literally hundreds of billions of forints?

Etc.

Wakulicus
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Eva S. Balogh :

Wakulicus :

Do you speak about just Bufdapest?
And which parts of Budapest are leftist? The worker-class districts?

I’m talking about the whole city.

Than examine the elite Buda districts.

petofi
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Eva S. Balogh : OT but here is a “pirate” video from Friday’s scandal in parliament just before the vote on the agrarian law. Unfortunately it is in Hungarian but I don’t think that it needs much explanation. The Jobbik caucus managed to bring total chaos to the House and the Fidesz leadership was completely at a loss what to do. It is quite obvious that the very expensive new parliamentary guards cannot be really used in a situation like this. It is possible that the vote is not valid because the Christian Democratic deputy speaker left the pulpit which according to the house rules means that the session is adjourned. Considering what great patriots are members of the Jobbik they sure managed to butcher the national anthem. The funniest thing is when the remaining Fidesz MPs feel compelled to stand while the Jobbik members sing the anthem. [youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGf9Shpo4Cs?version=3&rel=1&fs=1&showsearch=0&showinfo=1&iv_load_policy=1&wmode=transparent&w=595&h=365%5D Eva S. Balogh : OT but here is a “pirate” video from Friday’s scandal in parliament just before the vote on the agrarian law. Unfortunately it is in Hungarian but I don’t think that it needs much explanation. The Jobbik caucus managed to bring total chaos to the House and… Read more »
HUSZÁR
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Magyar Nemzet daily reported on Tuesday that Viviane Reding, the EU Justice Commissioner, said at the recent Bilderberg conference in England that she would do her utmost to question the legitimacy of the outcome of Hungary’s next general election.

Bailly told MTI he would not respond to concrete statements attributed to the commissioner. Nevertheless he could state that the commission did not ever seek to influence the outcome of any election, should it be a European Parliamentary election, a general or a municipal election.

Mina Andreeva, Reding’s spokeswoman, said that the Bilderberg conference was a closed-door event and therefore she could neither confirm nor deny any statements. She added that, in any case, she refused to comment on “media speculation”.

typical ancient anglo-saxon methods agaisnt countries that want to be independant
firstly promote some moronic clowns as “democratic” opposition.
secondly orchestrate “large” protests made of a few hundreds participants (“democratic opposition” + useful idiots)
then launch campaign in western media about national uprising in country and start question legality of local elected authorities.

oneill
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Huszar, why would they bother? What have the “anglo saxons” to gain from such a conspiracy? If they are not prepared to save the 1000s of lives being lost in Syria, then, in all honesty, they aren’t going to get their hands dirty taking on a EU state, regardless of the self delusions of grandeur of its Fuhrer?

leaveyourcommenthere
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She participated in the Bildenberg conference? How come! A few days earlier she had denied that she would be there….

leaveyourcommenthere
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Some1 :
Andy: I di ask the following question from many of those Fidesz Troopers who you see often posting here: Why would any foreign identity want to buy up or take over Hungary? What is it to gain?

Good questions, I did not really understand either why on Earth a democratic country, like France, occupied half of Africa: there was nothing but sand there…But later someone told me, that it is the nature of power…

CryingFromPain
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As always, I feel that Petofi is right. Elections are for the stupid.
The Orbans will win with or without elections.
Orban’s team is raking in money with increasing speed, and they will extend their rule by some smart tricks if necessary.

Member
leaveyourcommenthere : Some1 : Andy: I di ask the following question from many of those Fidesz Troopers who you see often posting here: Why would any foreign identity want to buy up or take over Hungary? What is it to gain? Good questions, I did not really understand either why on Earth a democratic country, like France, occupied half of Africa: there was nothing but sand there…But later someone told me, that it is the nature of power… You kidding us. Are you? Are you suggesting that the French, the English will go to war for Hungary? Are you suggesting that the littles speckle sized Hungary (in comparison to French Africa) would worth so much for these foreign conspirators that they will forget all about their current economical problems and they will go to take over Hungary just to show how powerful they are? You also need to brush up about your history of colonization. It was not the sand that they were after, but slave trade was big business, my friend. Also gum arabic, cotton, and peanuts were very important. Slave trade is non-existent, and you can find cheap labour in China (although Orban is very successful lately implementing… Read more »
Marcel Dé (@MarcelD10)
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leaveyourcommenthere :
Good questions, I did not really understand either why on Earth a democratic country, like France, occupied half of Africa: there was nothing but sand there…But later someone told me, that it is the nature of power…

You could at least read a little about the History of French colonization, before writing such nonsense.

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