It took eight years but apparently the Hungarian police found the murderer

Today, for a change of pace, I’m turning to a high-profile murder case in Hungary.

Way back on April 2, 2011 I wrote about a murder that had been committed in 2007. Irma Balla, a local Fidesz politician in Debrecen, was brutally murdered in her home. The police investigated for a whole year, after which they decided that the murderer must have been the woman’s son, Sándor Schönstein, even though he had an iron-clad alibi. He was at a picnic miles away at the time of the murder. Alibi notwithstanding, Schönstein was immediately incarcerated.

His lawyer, the well-known György Magyar, continued battling with the investigators, whom he considered incompetent and negligent. Magyar was clearly frustrated, and at one point he became a kind of Perry Mason, the TV lawyer who together with a private investigator had to solve cases in order to get his clients acquitted. Magyar began his own investigation and found a plausible suspect, Lajos D. Lajos D. had been questioned as a witness because he happened to be working next door at the time of the murder. He already had a criminal record and was, in fact, in jail when he was questioned. During his testimony he gave a fairly accurate description of the interior of Balla’s house. When asked how he could possibly know all this, he claimed that while working on the house next door he could see all the details from a reflection in an open window. György Magyar and his private detective ascertained that Lajos D. was not telling the truth. No matter the time of the day or the weather, one couldn’t see much from the reflection in the window. When a bit more pressure was put on Lajos D., he confessed to the murder twice, only to withdraw his confessions a day or two later. In any case, the police didn’t seem to be interested in him.

Sándor Schönstein and his laywer, György Magyar

Sándor Schönstein and his laywer, György Magyar

In 2009 Schönstein was sentenced to twelve years for the murder of his mother. In 2011, when I wrote my post, the appellate court had taken up the case and had some harsh words to say about the investigation, the prosecution, and the judges of the lower court. The court declared the earlier sentencing null and void. The whole court proceeding had to be repeated. In November 2012 Schönstein was acquitted due to lack of evidence. A year later the appellate court of Debrecen agreed with the lower court. But meanwhile, Schönstein, a university student, had spent two years in jail. Ever since he has been trying to receive compensation for his suffering from the Hungarian state.

I guess everybody thought back in 2013 that this was the end of story. In late 2014, however, learned that the investigation hadn’t been abandoned. But instead of the Keystone Kops of Debrecen, Hungary’s top investigators from the headquarters of the national police force in Budapest descended on the city.  A few months later, in early March 2015, they were prepared to press charges against the same Lajos D. that Schönstein’s lawyer, from the very beginning, had thought was the culprit.

Lajos D. seems to spend more time in jail than not. When the Schönstein case was heard in 2009, Lajos D. was once again in jail. György Magyar insisted that he be a witness at the trial. On this occasion he again confessed to the murder and specifically mentioned the crowbar which he used to break Irma Balla’s neck. The Debrecen police didn’t take the confession seriously. They figured that Lajos D. had confessed in order to get out of jail a few times during the court proceedings. Brilliant, isn’t it? And, by the way, Lajos D. is in jail again. This time he is serving an eight-year sentence for robbery. Finally, he has been charged with the murder of Irma Balla.

So, what happened? The whole case was taken out of the hands of the Debrecen police who made too many mistakes to list. Those who want more details should read the article in The panel of judges was also either incompetent or negligent. Perhaps both. During the trial Lajos D. had two people testify on his behalf, but their testimony was anything but exculpatory. For example, a friend of his told the judge that when he asked Lajos D. whether he had anything to do with the murder, he paused for a while and did not give an unequivocal answer. Lajos D.’s half brother, contrary to his earlier statement, admitted during the trial that Lajos was not at home during the night of the murder. All that was ignored by the court of Hajdú-Bihar County. I might add that in June 2013 the judge who sentenced Sándor Schönstein to 12 years was promoted because of his outstanding professionalism.

So what did the Budapest detectives find that the Debrecen cops missed? Lajos D.’s DNA, which apparently was found on a blanket under Irma Balla’s body. According to Népszabadság, some new technique made the discovery possible. Of course, I have no idea about the progress in DNA research over the last few years, but I’m a bit skeptical. This story sounds to me like a ploy to mask the total incompetence of the Debrecen police. But at least now Sándor Schönstein can be found not guilty not just because the court couldn’t find evidence that he committed the murder but because, it seems, the murderer was somebody else.

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Miscarriage of justice may have a more sinister explanation than police incompetence. I don’t ask for conspiration theories but I would like to know if there is something about Sandor Schönstein that could bias the system against him.



He couldn’t possibly be a jew, could he?


There’s that possibility, certainly… For some reason the police running the investigation in Debrecen wanted a fall-guy, and they picked the guy with a Jewish-sounding name.
That murder looks like a “hit”.
Why Irma Balla was killed is the big question, and I am afraid it will never be answered correctly.


At the same time in Orbanistan:

“Orbán szerint megérne egy misét a halálbüntetés”

According to Orbán the death penalty would worth a Mass.

The Utterly Civilised and Fearlessly Christian Leader once again misused a well known expression, this time by Henry IV of France: “Paris is well worth a Mass”

What a MORON!

He is the Hungarian Prime Minister, ladies and gentlemen in the year of 2015 and will think about the death penalty, and the crime-preventing effect of it, so it would worth reconsider the Hungarian point of view!

Now you may (re)consider too, what would happen with such able juridic system what Eva presented above. God grief!


Death penalty? Really? Is Orban really thinking about having Hungary join Belarus as the last bastion of the death penalty in Europe?


Politically perfect: you can push it knowing that’s it’s impossible because again The EU, The New Moscow (which is not a perfect a analogy since rather Moscow is the new Brussels) is preventing us from introducing it. Damn those Brusselites. They can’t let us live the way we want to. Death penalty is very popular just like in the US, and especially so in rural areas where people are afraid that nothing holds back the gipsies any more and which is Fidesz’ heartland and where Fidesz is competing Jobbik. Signature Habony idea. But to be honest this is not a huge issue on people’s minds now so Orban won’t gain too much.


Justice in Western European terms has been completely thrown to the winds in Orbanistan. And getting more serious by the day.

When you can not count on justice to protect you you are in constant danger if you step outside of the grey road as delineated by the power-that-be.

Without an intelligent and charismatic leader who has the wherewithall to deal with the appropriate powers in the Western World, Hungary is doomed to a continuing and steep slide downward.

The ONLY thing that politically keeps Hungary acceptable within the EU are their funds and momentum already invested here.

The isolationist trends exhibited by the majority of the electorate and the vehemence of the hatred toward others who think differently sometimes resembles a trend toward the narrow-view and hienous hatred and incomprehension shown in the ancient tribal attitudes still currently virulent in areas of the Middle-East and Africa.


Totally OT but maybe important:

There seems to be a security risk in wordpress’ “super cache” – I don’t know if this concerns Eva’s blog.
It’s also mentioned here – in German:
Seems IS sympathisers have used it already.


Another news – OT but maybe interesting too – re football stadiums:
We had a lot of interesting conversations with the family and my brother in law told me that the stadium in Debreczen is still looking for an owner/managing company.
Of the around 20 000 seats generally max 2000 are in use during games, often there are less than 1000 spectators (pun intended …) so there is not enough money for the upkeep …