Viktor Orbán’s message to Brussels

Viktor Orbán is again marching to a different drummer. While European politicians and leaders of the European Union are working hard to find a humane and peaceful solution to the refugee crisis, the Hungarian prime minister is preparing for war–war against anyone who tries to seek refuge in Hungary.

Angela Merkel, by legalizing the settlement of Syrian refugees in Germany, took a step in the right direction. But Germany cannot solve the problem alone; there must be a common effort by the 28 member states. Johanna Mikl-Leitner, the Austrian interior minister, is also of the opinion that bona fide refugees should be given a permanent home, a step that should end the kind of human trafficking that resulted in the death of those 71 people who were found in an abandoned truck on an Austrian highway. Viktor Orbán and the politicians of the party he leads, however, see it otherwise. The Hungarian government will not accept anyone, refugee or not, and today officials worked to make sure that they will have the legal means to introduce draconian measures.

The day started with Zoltán Kovács, government spokesman, blaming the refugees who died in that truck for their own death. Since there is no war situation in the Balkan countries, there was no reason for them to escape to (and through) Hungary. “Therefore we are talking about people who make themselves victims.”

Yesterday János Lázár and Antal Rogán laid the groundwork for the government’s response to the waves of people entering Hungary when they insisted that the use of the army along the border and modifications of the criminal code are necessary because of the “growing aggressiveness” of the asylum seekers. It matters not that the ministry of interior is unaware of any such aggressiveness, which is not a criminal category in any event.

Jobbik and Fidesz are vying with each other to see which party can come up with the most hateful anti-refugee propaganda and which one can suggest the most severe measures against the asylum seekers. This rivalry is especially evident when it comes to the question of deploying the army along the border. Gábor Vona, chairman of the neo-Nazi Jobbik party, submitted a proposal yesterday to modify the constitution to allow the use of arms in the defense of the borders because, as Ádám Mirkóczky, deputy chairman of Jobbik, said, “a situation may arise when the soldiers and/or the police must use firearms to defend themselves.” Fidesz claims that the government can achieve the same end without touching the constitution. Their proposal also includes the use of “coercive instruments.” They can use guard dogs, rubber bullets, pyrotechnics, tear gas, and netting to stop the people at the border. Also, they can use firearms “if they encounter an attack which seriously endangers life or causes bodily harm, or if the asylum seekers attack an object under surveillance.” The troops will be moving into the transit zone on September 15. Because there is no real difference between the two positions, I have no doubt that Jobbik will assist Fidesz in enacting this horrendous new law.

What else is waiting for the refugees and those who try to help them? The punishment for climbing over the fence will be three years in jail. Taking part in a mass disturbance warrants a maximum five-year jail term. If someone loses his life during the disturbance, any participant could end up in jail for a term of five to ten years. Those who are found guilty will be automatically expelled from the country even if that means forcible separation from their families. There are a few exceptions to these rules: the expulsion of pregnant women and mothers of children under the age of one can be postponed, but only if their stay in the country doesn’t seriously endanger public safety and public order. In addition, the police can enter private property without a warrant if they suspect that Hungarian citizens are hiding refugees in their homes.

It will be much worse soon / AFP-photo Attila Kisbenedek

It will probably be much worse soon / AFP-photo Attila Kisbenedek

As for refugee camps, the government finally came up with the “perfect” solution. Several “transit zones” will be created along the border. They will be fenced in on the Hungarian side but will be open on the Serbian side. The refugees will have to enter one of these camps, which will protrude sixty meters into Hungary. The necessary land will be expropriated from the present owners. After processing the applications, authorities will make a decision within eight days about the fate of the refugees. It is quite clear from the messages we get from Fidesz politicians that nobody will be considered a refugee who comes through any Balkan country. So basically, they will go through the rigmarole of registering the refugees, which is necessary to comply with current EU rules, and then will deny them entrance to the country on the ground that they are not refugees. That will be the Hungarian solution to the refugee crisis.

Finally, Fidesz decided to send a message, in the form of a parliamentary resolution, to Brussels, “whose irresponsible policies are responsible for the death of people.” The resolution, titled “Message to the leaders of the European Union,” was submitted by seven Fidesz and two Christian Democratic politicians, among them important people like Antal Rogán, leader of the Fidesz delegation, Péter Harrach, leader of the Christian Democrats, Gergely Gulyás, the legal whiz of the party, and Szilárd Németh, the heavyweight in more than one ways who was in charge of utility rate cuts two years ago.

The resolution continues: “We must declare that every European politician who encourages the immigrants with the hope of a better life to leave everything behind, to imperil their lives, and to begin their journey toward Europe is irresponsible.” I guess this includes Angela Merkel, who by allowing Syrians to settle in Germany is actually encouraging them to pack up and leave. The document, speaking in the name of all Central European countries, goes on to say that they “cannot be the injured party as a result of the mistaken policies of Brussels.” Furthermore, they have “the right to defend [their] culture, language, [and] values.” Therefore they “call on the leaders of the European Union to listen to the voice of the people. Get their senses back and defend Europe and the European citizens.”

I worry about the fate of the refugees who try to cross into Hungary. I fear that Brussels may soon have cause to turn the Hungarian government’s own words against it: that its “irresponsible [I would say cruel] policies [were] responsible for the death of people.”

From the government’s words and actions in this refugee crisis it’s hard not to conclude that it is made up of a bunch of psychopaths. Just consider the first eight characteristics of Robert Hare’s checklist to determine who is a psychopath: glibness and superficial charm, grandiose sense of self-worth, pathological lying, cunning/manipulative, lack of remorse, emotional shallowness, callousness and lack of empathy, unwillingness to accept responsibility for actions. Check, check, check, check, check, check, check, check.

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I quote from the Fundamental Law of Hungary, aka the Constitution,
We recognise the role of Christianity in preserving nationhood. We value the various religious traditions of our country.

and

We hold that human existence is based on human dignity.

Based on nothing else other than how it has dealt with the refugee crisis, this government is a disgrace to Hungarians and Christians everywhere.

Géza
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Your view of what christianity means has nothing to do with true meaning of the Gospel. Your view has everything to do with a liberal left view of life. Although I don’t agree with a lot of this governement’s policies, I agree for the most part how they deal with the socalled “refugee” crisis. The part I don’t agree with is, that the governement in their reaction was to slow to act, to soft in handeling it and sticking with EU membership and international asylum treaties, which should be left immediately by all Europian nations to survive! Yes, we have the right to defend our way of life (ethnically and cultural) which is treatened by huge numbers of third world immigrants who are allien to us in many ways. People here must get some common sense and start investigating what is really going on around Europe with those “nice” refugees (who are not real refugees for many reasons). Their religion islam, a religion that is against everything that the liberal left here stands for and believe in. No-one can be so naive and blind about reality! No-go zones all over Western Europe. In Sweden alone more then 50!!!! A massive… Read more »
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” Hungarians who are allien to us in many ways.”
Yes, you are and don’t belong here !

Member

Nice Christian values you represent! haha Are you representing the trues Gospel? History showed us what those “real” followers can do. You are no different from those who you are most afraid of. You are an extremist of the same extent as the extremists you imagine every immigrants are. Shame on you!
Have the same great day you wish on your fellow human beings!

Webber
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It seems you have not read very much (if any) of the New Testament. Get your Bible out please (do you have one? If not, get one.). Next go to the Gospels According to Matthew, and starting there carefully read Christ’s words wherever they appear.
Luke 10:25-37 is particularly pertinent.

Webber
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Luke 10: 25 On one occasion an expert in the law stood up to test Jesus. “Teacher,” he asked, “what must I do to inherit eternal life?” 26 “What is written in the Law?” he replied. “How do you read it?” 27 He answered, “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind’[a]; and, ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’” 28 “You have answered correctly,” Jesus replied. “Do this and you will live.” 29 But he wanted to justify himself, so he asked Jesus, “And who is my neighbor?” 30 In reply Jesus said: “A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho, when he was attacked by robbers. They stripped him of his clothes, beat him and went away, leaving him half dead. 31 A priest happened to be going down the same road, and when he saw the man, he passed by on the other side. 32 So too, a Levite, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the other side. 33 But a Samaritan, as he traveled, came where the man was; and when he saw him, he… Read more »
Webber
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For Géza, in his native tongue Lukács 10: 25 És ímé egy törvénytudó felkele, kísértvén őt, és mondván: Mester, mit cselekedjem, hogy az örök életet vehessem? 26 Ő pedig monda annak: A törvényben mi van megírva? mint olvasod? 27 Az pedig felelvén, monda: Szeresd az Urat, a te Istenedet teljes szívedből és teljes lelkedből és minden erődből és teljes elmédből; és a te felebarátodat, mint magadat. 28 Monda pedig annak: Jól felelél; ezt cselekedd, és élsz. 29 Az pedig igazolni akarván magát, monda Jézusnak: De ki az én felebarátom? 30 Jézus pedig felelvén, monda: Egy ember megy vala alá Jeruzsálemből Jerikóba, és rablók kezébe esék, akik azt kifosztván és megsebesítvén, elmenének, és ott hagyák félholtan. 31 Történet szerint pedig megy vala alá azon az úton egy pap, aki azt látván, elkerülé. 32 Hasonlóképpen egy Lévita is, mikor arra a helyre ment, és azt látta, elkerülé. 33 Egy samaritánus pedig az úton menvén, odaért, ahol az vala: és mikor azt látta, könyörületességre indula. 34 És hozzájárulván, bekötözé annak sebeit, olajat és bort töltvén azokba; és azt felhelyezvén az ő tulajdon barmára, vivé a vendégfogadó házhoz, és gondját viselé néki. 35 Másnap pedig elmenőben két pénzt kivévén, adá a gazdának, és monda… Read more »
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I see you have overdosed on propaganda from the various hate sites you like to visit Geza, however, this “rape epedemic” that you speak of is a figment of your imagination. As most will know, the rate of sexual violence has nothing to do with where someone is from, rather more about how someone was raised and mental/control issues, individually. The fact that more is reported and more is accessible via the internet does not mean that it occurs more than before, but a lot of the crap that gets posted about immigrants raping is repeated news about the same story, for example, on facebook the other day I noticed a “story” that I had seen many times before but now the place in which this incident occured was in a different place but it was the same incident, when clicking on who posted it originally, always goes back to a hate site. Where you get the idea that the “liberal left ideology” includes mass immigration is beyond me. I only see the left wanting to help as many humans as possible and treat people with compassion during this extremely difficult time on our planet. If the right side of… Read more »
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NEO-NAZI NATION

With the exception of those who are actually helping the refugees or wanting to, Hungary has now undeniably become (or revealed itself already to have been) a neo-nazi nation.

For those who were wondering why so little help was forthcoming to the victims of the Holocaust, have a look around now.

And for those who ask themselves whether they would have been among the righteous back then, look at what you are doing or not doing now, and you have your answer.

And for those Jews who are doing nothing now (or worse): You have forfeited your right to have expected any better for your loved ones, back then, or for yourselves, if it again comes your turn. You are the proof of the fact that the magyar moral malady is not a racial one but a cultural poison.

Professor Balogh is quite right that this all fits the profile of psychopathy. The original nazism did too.

Guest
@Stevan Harnad August 28, 2015 at 8:59 pm I understand your perfectly justifiable outrage, but I wouldn’t conflate the Hungarian Holocaust, which involved genocide in the original sense of the word – the unspeakably cruel murder of over half a million completely innocent Hungarian children, women, men and old people just because of their Jewish descent – and the current refugee and would-be migrant crisis that, serious as it certainly is, does not involve anything of the sort, and thank goodness for that. (By the way, just as I would not conflate a fence or wall to keep people out, with one that was meant to keep people in, like the Berlin Wall or the former Iron Curtain fortifications along the Austro-Hungarian border.) That said, I am perfectly willing to concede the obvious fact that the general unwillingness to help now arises from the same deep well-springs of Hungarian mean-spiritedness and inclination to hate “the other,” as was the general unwillingness to help then. As far as Hungarians of Jewish descent are concerned, let us be clear that in culture, norms and mentality they are by and large indistinguishable from their non-Jewish compatriots, in particular from the left-wingers among their… Read more »
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Moral Standards: Single and Double Reply to @Mike Balint You are of course right that what the middle-eastern and african refugees are fleeing is not a genocide. But (I think) one’s refusal to help or even empathize with the victims in their need is nevertheless a litmus test for how one would have reacted to the victims during the Holocaust (especially since at the time it was not clear even to the victims what was really going to happen to them). Yes, I freely confess to having a moral double-standard for Jews (and especially Jewish Holocaust survivors and their descendants). But that is not because I am an anti-semite. It is because I am a Jew. Yes, Jewry is not a community of faith, nor a community of race, but a community of fate — a fate imposed on Jews by non-Jews. That does not change the point about moral standards: it reinforces it. That said, all analogies have their limitations. And the notion of a “nation” is even more dubious than the notion of a race. The upshot is that morals are cultural, not genetic. And the morals of (all too many) Hungarians, it seems, are deplorable. Is it… Read more »
Webber
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For Stephen Harnad and Mike Balint
Syria – more than 200,000 dead (and counting), and more than half Syria’s population has fled its homes. The mass murder and torture of civilians throughout Syria is so horrifying that the directors of the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum have seen fit to describe conditions on its website, and to put up graphic images of the most horrific nature:
http://www.ushmm.org/confront-genocide/cases/syria/syria-photo-galleries/evidence

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@Webber
August 29, 2015 at 1:51 pm

Terrible, absolutely terrible, and everything must be done to help the poor children, women, men and old people escaping this horrific violence in what used to be Syria.

By the way, this is exactly the fate that would await the Jews of Israel too, or perhaps even worse, if they ever lost a war.

Guest

@Stevan Harnad
August 29, 2015 at 1:38 pm

“But that is not because I am an anti-semite. It is because I am a Jew.”

I was of course fully aware that you are of Jewish descent.

It is therefore doubly incumbent on you to be more careful with the choice of words and implicatures when setting out to heap abuse on your “community of fate.”

Unless of course you really are an antisemite (in the conventional sense of being a Jew-hater); after all, Jewish antisemites are by no means rare, particularly in academic ranks.

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Double Duty

@ Mike Balint:

“I was of course fully aware that you are of Jewish descent. It is therefore doubly incumbent on you to be more careful with the choice of words and implicatures when setting out to heap abuse on your ‘community of fate.’ Unless of course you really are an antisemite…”

Mike, one of us is definitely over the top. Others will have to judge which. We are both pleading special “double-incumbencies,” just not quite the same ones… חמלה

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@Stevan Harnad
August 29, 2015 at 8:01 pm

אין בעיות

:-))

ploni
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This is not the Holocaust. Not everything bad that happens is the Holocaust.

But you are right; if one can help, one should.

ER1956
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Obama is a good partner of Orban. Both subscribed to the plans out of Tehran.

The rest of us should send a bill to Tehran for all the worldwide damage and death generated by the mullahs.

Nádas
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By that logic many other countries should also get big bills for the death and destruction they have caused in recent years. The United States’ bill alone would be enormous.

And if by “plans out of Tehran” you are referring to the recent “5+1” agreement, don’t forget that it wasn’t negotiated by Obama and the mullahs alone, but by the five permanent members of the UN Security Council (China, France, Russia, the UK and US) plus Germany. And, of course, Iran.

And what has any of this got to do with Hungary and the refugee crisis? Get a grip.

Guest

Point to ponder on the status of the psychologically, morally and emotionally challenged who are finding it difficult to deal with certain strife in our extremely conflicted world:

“Someone who is permanently surprised that depravity exists, who continues to feel disillusioned (even incredulous) when confronted with evidence of what humans are capable of inflicting in the way of gruesome, hands-on cruelties upon other humans, has not reached moral or psychological adulthood.”
― Susan Sontag, Regarding the Pain of Others

Zorgas
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It is ironic that while Hungary commemorates the police action it took against “illegal aliens” when it pushed them across the border to their deaths in Kamenets-Podolsk in 1941, and Sandor Szakaly intones that “Decision-makers always bear responsibility of being aware of the consequences of their decisions,” we are seeing the same herding of “illegal aliens” to their deaths in a sealed chicken transport rather than cattle cars. And again, the government is complicit, placing the blame on the victims rather than the perpetrators. Doubtless in 70 years time, Hungarians will wring their hands and transform the fence builders into “rescuers” because they showed compassion by intentionally building a flimsy fence and thus saved thousands of people.

Guest

And the good news is?

At least it’s obvious to everybody that Fiddik is just as morally corrupt as Jobbik …

I wonder what my friends will say to me when I’ll be in Germany next week – I’ll report.

Live long and prosper
Guest

The Hungarian government’s moral deficit is appalling. Their response to the refugee crisis is as disgraceful as Germany’s is fantastic. This strutting gargoyle of a prime minister, splurging money on bloody football stadia whilst depriving the healthcare infrastructure of desperately needed investment, and professing to be a Christian and the leader of a Christian nation, reveals himself as a man devoid of humanity and the most hideous hypocrite. After the change of 1989 Hungary could have been a beacon of freedom, it could have been an example to Europe and the world. Instead it’s an embarrassment and a tragedy. Whilst Germany’s international reputation as a well governed and responsible nation has been significantly enhanced by their laudable generosity to the Syrians, Hungary’s wallows in the pig swill of its own making.

bimbi
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Alas, you are right, LL&P.

Mr. Orban’s idea of acting in a humanitarian manner includes:
doing a little two-step jig to the Szekely anthem,
burying the remains of Arrow-Cross writers with full rehabilitation,
making sure his son-in-law becomes an instant millionaire by rigging contracts for him,
assuring that the Tokai vineyard gets only the second-biggest EU subsidy,
lying about the theft of private pension funds,
running a government based on corruption and cronyism
and on and on…

And this is the man who claims to speak for the Hungarian people and the CEE countries!

Max
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38% of EU citizens regard this issue as the most challenging one for the Union, while 73% demand firm and common policy framework for migration. Juncker is doing some PR work, but introduces no real steps and people on this continent find this increasingly annoying and dangerous..

In fact, by suspendig unilaterally Dublin2 over the Syrian refugees, Merkel has gone against a joint EU policy.

More importantly, soon the German political centre can implode under weight of the refugees, just as it happened in Sweden. This article is spot on:

http://privatbankar.hu/makro/izlestelen-es-atlatszo-hazugsag-jelent-meg-magyarorszagrol-menekultugyben-284990

Webber
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The day a person starts believing Hungarian press about events in Europe is a very sad day indeed. I suggest you read German papers about Germany, if you can, and about the EU as well. If you can’t read German, try the British press – The Telegraph, if you prefer a conservative point of view, The Guardian if TT is too r-wing for you. Both are reliable news sources. I also suggest you look at Reuters from time to time.
If you do this, you’ll find that very often Hungarian reports are bad mis-translations of English or German articles, published two to three days after the original.

Webber
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FordÍtás: Amikor a magyar kormánysajtó szerint a nyugati sajtó hazudik a magyar kormányról, érdemes a nyugati sajtót elolvasni. Olykor derül csak ki, hogy ki hazudik.

Guest

Max was trolling here before – the creature’s as bad/stupid/xenophobic/you name it … as Géza (or leto on politics.hu).

spectator
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“More importantly, soon the German political centre can implode under weight of the refugees, just as it happened in Sweden.” Would you mind to elaborate a bit? I mean, beside a clear prediction/fortune telling – as is: “soon the German political centre can implode” to the unreferenced statement: “just as it happened in Sweden.””? As a matter of fact the best position of the Swedish “political centre” – I suppose it means “Centerpartiet” during the last couple of decades was a coalition ally – one among others. Otherwise the leading roll usually alternates between the Social Democrats – who rules today – and the Moderats, which counts as moderately conservative (bourgeois) party. Both governs with allies, usually there is no super majority. The difference only between the focus on somewhat different areas – say, some 20% – no more. At present the socialist government will have higher taxes on some areas in order to have more money for areas – supposedly – more in the public interest (like education and welfare, than the previous government, which left much more to the citizens to decide over. So, that’s how it is in Sweden, and in this respect your reference sounds pretty… Read more »
Max
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Spectator:

Would you mind not calling me ‘dear’?! Thank you!

In your detailed analysis on the Swedish internal political arythmetics you have missed a small point: the anti-EU and anti-immigration Swedish Democrats party is currently leading the polls. There is an artificial political centre created by the two traditional big parties, but this reflects more of a desparation then anything else.

For your information, one can see similar kind of shaken / imploded political centres already in Austria and Holland.

Walakee
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The top fideszniks are psychopaths no question about that — but they are well functioning psychopaths and popular psychopaths (when compared to the opposition) and rich beyond belief.

And, lets add, well-liked psychopaths as the thank-you decorations bestowed on the occasion of August 20 on the respresentatives of the Konrad Adenauer Stiftung and the Hanns Seidel Stufting, respectively amply prove.

What can voters or the international community do when they are facing psychopaths?

Should they treat them – as the rules of European polite behavior prescribe and which all Western European politicians subscribe to – as normal, healthy persons, pretend that everything is OK?

Guest
For the past twelve years or so, I have often been chastised for being “anti-Hungarian,” for voicing “unwarranted” and “unfair” anti-Hungarian “generalizations,” and for seeing only the “bad,” rather than the “good,” in Hungarian culture and mentality. Back in 2003, when I was in Budapest, I was pooh-poohed by relatives and acquaintances alike for predicting a full Horthyte restoration and the inevitable rise of a vicious strain of Christian Nationalism (keresztény kurzus), and indeed of National Socialism within less than a decade. I was shushed with some bemusement for being shocked by the extent of virulent antisemitism on the Hungarian street, by the extent of brazen corruption in high places, by the mean-spirited, but widely practiced “principle” of “let the neighbour’s cow croak (dögöljön a szomszéd tehene),” by the all-pervasive culture of grievance and constant whinging (panaszkultúra), by the entrenched culture of cheating (kiskapuk), by the constant habit of screwing of one another (fúrás), and by the general unwillingness to accept accountability and take responsibility, and least of all the historical kind. It all seemed so totally alien to someone used to living the quiet life among Australians in leafy suburbia. Unfortunately, what I saw and sensed in 2003 vividly… Read more »
No change
Guest

So in 70 years time, there might be a statue to Hungarian victimhood. A weeping Orban Viktor with the message the EU made us do it.

Guest

Is this really “The Hungarian Motto”?

It’s always someone else’s fault …

spectator
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It’s always been – no surprises here!
(You should try harder to come up with something new! ;))

petofi
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re: Hungarian jews just wanting to fit in….

Some while back I visited my cousin at her quadplex in Budapest. Not having seen her for a couple of years, I was stunned by her inane remarks about my wearing shorts (it was a mid-day meeting). I thought, ‘how can I get her back…?’ And it dawned on me almost immediately–I stopped following her to her back yard. She stopped, too. And I said, in a voice loud enough for anyone in the vicinity to hear:
“Do your neighbours know that you’re Jewish?”

Well! Her jaw dropped and she looked as if she wanted to sink into the earth. Shortly after I left.

That night I was informed that her gardener, who had been working in the back, had up and quit. (Which I don’t believe.)
My cousin also informed me that I had been dis-invited for the family gathering to be held in a couple of days.

spectator
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Hey, you worked for it, haven’t you ;))

Webber
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Excellent story – though very depressing.

spectator
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Just for your information, not only the expelling will split families – already the imprisonment will do that just as well!

As known, there is no family based facilities in detention- and correction centers in Hungary, not to mention, there is no prison sentence – yet – to underage children.

Conclusively, if a family with children caught by unlawfully entering into Hungary, the man goes into one prison, the woman in other, while the children probably foster homes or even worse…

There are old and disabled people as well among them – what’s going to happen with a family, who may managed to keep together all the time of the hard journey – up till they’ll meet the “Hungarian justice”!

Shame!

Webber
Guest

This is why civilians are fleeing from Syria – and this is why Germany is accepting Syrian refugees:

And this is also why civilians are fleeing Syria:

God bless Germany.

Member

TEST!

Guest

The way Hungary treats refugees and would-be immigrants is unspeakably cruel and indecent.

I find it absolutely incomprehensible why Hungary cannot get its act together and process these refugees and would-be immigrants in a decent and civilized manner, particularly as these people represent zero demographic or cultural threat to a determinedly unicultural and Christian Nationalist Hungary.

After all, they are all of them basically heading for Northern Europe and have no intention whatsoever of staying on in Hungary where the GDP per head is low, education standards and health services poor, and the welfare system a Balkanic shamble.

Or rather, the disgraceful and shameful manner in which this humanitarian crisis is handled is in fact quite easily understandable as a deliberate ploy by Orbán to whip up Hungarian xenophobia and mean-spiritedness, with a view to consolidating and increasing his Christian nationalist support base whilst conveniently diverting public attention from the real problems Hungary is facing that Orbán and his mafia are either unwilling or unable to fix.

Disgusting, absolutely and totally disgusting.

Walter Royce
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If they want to settle in a Christian country let them forsake their demon god who is bringing destruction in the very lands they are escaping from. Don’t bring their religion and sharia law here. In their own lands they are slaughtering Christians by the thousands. What the Islamic State is engaged in is the real Islam. Don’t let politicians fool you by continuously telling you that it is not Islamic thought. They are deliberately lying.

Webber
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Some of “them” are Christians, some are of other faiths.

Bowen
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After the Romanian revolution, and the collapse of Ceausescu’s regime, a lot of Transylvanian Hungarians migrated to Hungary. They weren’t given much help, or a warm welcome. They were looked down upon, othered, treated as ‘foreign’, and more often than not, excluded from economic life.

What’s happening right now has absolutely nothing to do with ‘brave’ ‘Christian’ Hungary protecting itself or Europe against the invading foreign infidel.

Zorgas
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Perhaps the Fidesz government banned the racist “Future of Europe” conference last year http://roadsandkingdoms.com/2014/the-nationalists-lost-mojo/ not because it was racisist, but because it would show how close this racist message is to current government policy.

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