Viktor Orbán at a crossroads: Alone or together?

By all objective standards Viktor Orbán’s refugee policy is a resounding failure. The hastily constructed fence, as predicted, is useless. This past weekend almost 9,000 refugees arrived in the country. The Hungarian government’s handling of the crisis has been roundly criticized, and by today Germany with the assistance of Austria decided to bend the rules and deal with the situation in a “flexible manner,” which meant taking over the registration of the would-be immigrants from the incompetent and malevolent Hungarian government.

Yet, from the point of view of the Orbán government the outcome of the protracted refugee crisis may not be a total loss. Yes, a lot of money was spent on anti-refugee propaganda and western powers are horrified at the heartless measures introduced and/or contemplated by the Hungarian government. But according to the latest public opinion poll by the Republikon Institute, as a result of the “firm” attitude of the government regarding the refugee issue, the downward slide of Fidesz’s popularity has stopped. The anti-refugee propaganda also reinforced the xenophobic tendencies of Hungarians to the point that, by now, 66% of the population believe that “the refugees pose a danger to Hungary and therefore they shouldn’t be allowed” into the country. Only 19% think that “it is the duty of Hungary to accept them.”

The most vociferous opponents of a generous immigration policy are the Fidesz voters (79%). They even surpass followers of Jobbik (71%). But even supporters of the opposition parties are not too keen on foreigners. For example, 64% of MSZP voters and 52% of LMP supporters harbor anti-immigration sentiments. DK voters polled lowest, at 47%, but this number is still surprisingly high given the liberal disposition of Ferenc Gyurcsány’s followers. Thus, one can safely say that a large majority of Hungarians would recommend strong measures against the influx of refugees and support Orbán’s categorical refusal to accept any refugees whatsoever.

It is another matter, however, whether the policies that have been introduced thus far satisfy the expectations of the electorate. Again, by objective standards, they shouldn’t because the results of these efforts, legislative and otherwise, are zilch. Yet I don’t think that Fidesz’s attempt to gain political advantage from the immigration crisis is in jeopardy. The government can always blame the European Union for its failures. Laying the blame on Brussels is a relatively easy task given the total confusion that reigns in the capitals of the member states and in Brussels itself.

Today’s events are a perfect example of that confusion. Yesterday the ministry of interior categorically announced that without a passport and a valid visa nobody can leave the country. Never mind that in the last few months more than 100,000 people left without either of these documents. This morning the same ministry claimed that there will be plenty of space in Hungarian jails for “illegal immigrants.”

By midday the Hungarian government blamed Germany for the situation that had developed at the railway stations in Budapest and elsewhere. András Giró-Szász, one of the government spokesmen, not without justification complained that Hungary has followed all of the Dublin III regulations governing immigration procedures when it is now Germany that has shown “a more permissive attitude toward Syrian refugees … which has raised hopes among the illegal immigrants who possibly come from Syria.” He asked the German government “to clarify the legal situation.”

Then something happened at the Eastern Railway Station (Keleti) between six and seven this morning. Within an hour all the policemen who were supposed to make sure that no refugee gets on any train heading west disappeared. Within minutes the news spread that Syrian refugees can embark on their journey to Germany where they are being welcomed. That meant a sudden reversal of Hungarian policy, which was undoubtedly prompted by a telephone call from Angela Merkel to Viktor Orbán. The Austrians stopped the two trains carrying the refugees at the border, but after making sure that the trains were not overcrowded they let them proceed to Germany.

The trains at the Austro-Hungarian border,August 31, 2015

The trains at the Austro-Hungarian border, August 31, 2015

I’m not sure whether, after the German change of policy, the Hungarian government will proceed with its plans to modify the criminal code, which would lay the groundwork for declaring a state of emergency. This might be incompatible with Hungary’s membership in the European Union. It seems, however, that the prime ministers of the Czech Republic, Hungary, Poland, and Slovakia will hold a mini-summit in Prague on Friday. It was expected that these countries would stand together in their refusal to take any refugees. But Prime Minister Ewa Kopacz of Poland announced today that, given the changed situation, Poland is ready to accept far more than the 2,200 refugees it had offered at the time the quota system was originally discussed. So the staunchest holdouts may be limited to the Czech Republic, Hungary, and Slovakia.

As 444.hu said, a Kulturkamp has broken out between Western and Eastern Europe over the refugee issue. While the west wants to return to a discussion of quotas, the former socialist countries are refusing to accept any such solution. The tension is palpable. Austrian Interior Minister Johanna Mikl-Leitner used strong words today. She announced that “pressure should be put on those countries” that refuse to cooperate. In her opinion, Brussels might reduce the amount of support for the recalcitrant member states.

The easterners keep repeating that they want to remain Christian countries. Robert Fico is perhaps the least bashful in expressing this view, saying that Slovakia is willing to take 250 immigrants but they must not be Muslims. But the Poles, Estonians, and Czechs feel the same way about “refugees who come from a different cultural background,” as Miloš Zeman rather politely put it. As a result, in the Western European countries one often hears about the “heartlessness” of East Europeans while they stress their own humane attitudes. French Prime Minister Manuel Valls yesterday recited Emma Lazarus’s poem “The New Colossus”: “Give me your tired, your poor, /Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, / The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. / Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me.” Italy, Austria, and Germany have indicated that if there is no common solution, free movement within the European Union cannot be maintained.

Four days ago an opinion piece,”The price of zero,” appeared in Népszabadság by the excellent veteran journalist Endre Aczél. He begins his piece by saying that he wasn’t at all surprised that it was Germany that first decided to abandon the “Dublin Convention” and not to send refugees back to the countries where they reached the territory of the European Union. The Germans remember their own post-World War II history when 14 million Germans were forced to move from east to west. The Germans, the French, and the Italians contemplate a pan-European solution. But Thomas de Maiziere, German minister of the interior, “quietly” mentioned the possibility of guarding national borders in the future. “Anyone, like Orbán, who declares zero acceptance of immigrants should think twice: What would be the benefit or advantage from limitations to Hungarians’ free movement within the European Union?” Of course, it would be a terrible blow. If it came to that, Viktor Orbán wouldn’t be prime minister of Hungary for long. One wouldn’t even have to wait for the next scheduled election.

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Rikard
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You know I am a news watcher and wish I could see perhaps a Magyar ‘talking-head’ say from the government to give some insight on the crisis to the major American networks or cable networks. But we haven’t seen or heard a pip here from their end, to the American public that is, on their position.

Not sure if it’s a matter of network access or simply ignoring potential interviews. Have to say though that barbed wire and swinging sticks against the refugees isn’t such great public relations from that ‘hard to know’ country with the crazy language in Central Europe. Maybe they’ll sit down with Charlie Rose?

Anna
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Other Topic: Following the government’s request (Latorcai), Andras Heisler asked the Head of the Jewish Festival , Jozsef Bojte, to resign after yesterday’s protest against Latorcai’s speech in the Dohany Temple.

tappanch
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Watch the fidesznik Vogon speak and the reaction

https://youtu.be/yB_Rn11-u7k

In my understanding, Bojte resigned before the protest. Latorcai thought that his father’s Fidesz (or rather “state Christian” KDNP) party status entitles him to offend its audience.

tappanch
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offend his audience

tappanch
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He, as a government representative, charged the organizers of the Jewish Festival of falsely “accusing” the singer M. Petras of participating in Nazi-like festivals in the past and canceling her performance in the Jewish festival for this. It turned out that the accusations are true !

tappanch
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OK. @Anna’s timeline is correct, not mine. The protest was in the evening of August 30, and Bojte’s resignation was announced at 11:18 AM on August 31.

http://www.mazsihisz.hu/2015/08/31/kozlemeny–lemondott-bojte-jozsef-a-zsido-kulturalis-fesztival-muveszeti-vezetoje-8084.html

Anna
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The government told Heisler after this night and in the morning Heisler and Kunos asked Bojte to resign.
So Heisler and Mazsihisz threw him under the bus. Prefer to collaborate with the Orban government.

tappanch
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@Anna, You are right. The protest was on Sunday evening, Bojte’s resignation was announced at 11:18 on Monday.

http://www.mazsihisz.hu/2015/08/31/kozlemeny–lemondott-bojte-jozsef-a-zsido-kulturalis-fesztival-muveszeti-vezetoje-8084.html

Balogh, the minister of “human power resources” wants to put a Soviet occupation memorial after the German occupation memorial on Freedom square
(against the wishes of the Jewish community).

http://444.hu/2015/09/01/a-mazsihisz-elnoke-tiz-eves-orszagos-emlekmu-epitesi-moratoriumot-szeretne/

I would like to see a Fidesz-occupation memorial !! Their totem bird is the magpie (szarka).

tappanch
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“This past weekend almost 9,000 refugees arrived in the country. ”

The number of “captured migrants” was 2822+3080+2890= 8790, but it is obvious that lots of migrants avoid being captured and registered in Hungary. They want to register in Germany.

Webber
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Hungary’s image has just gotten worse – just watch the video of these refugees, and listen to what they say about their treatment by the Hungarian police:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2015/sep/01/refugees-take-german-officials-by-surprise-when-they-arrive-on-train-video

Paul
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I dare say the EU will do nothing, as usual. It will just bumble along in its usual confused state. Recent history has demonstrated pretty clearly that Orbán has very little to fear from the EU. Of course, if the crisis gets much worse, the EU (or more likely, individual countries) will be forced to act, but things will have got way beyond worrying about Orbán by then. He will be ignored and allowed to carry on running his little ‘Christian’ enclave as he sees fit. As for Hungarian’s high negative attitude towards refugees, I feel I should repeat what I said the other day. To the average Hungarian, Fidesz or not, this really is perceived as a crisis. They really do feel under invasion by people they don’t understand or want. Hungary is a very inward-looking country and the people are pretty xenophobic, to them train-loads of black or brown people, speaking different languages, and often wearing unfamiliar clothing, really are disturbing and threatening. And it’s not enough just to dismiss this as the ‘usual’ Hungarian racism. The reactions I got when discussing this with people were different. This was not the usual unthinking, throw-away comments about Jews and… Read more »
Bowen
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@Paul
Hungarian authorities did not allow the refugees to leave Keleti until yesterday. The 71 people who died in that truck were most likely in limbo at Keleti beforehand, sleeping on used towels or cardboard and wondering where the hell the next meal was going to come from.

Saying “it was not Hungarians who loaded people into a lorry” seems like responsibility should lie elsewhere. Perhaps if ‘ordinary’ Hungarians did grow up a little bit, take a collective responsibiliity (like the 20,000 ‘ordinary’ Austrians who ‘welcomed’ the refugees to Vienna yesterday), then the Fidesz regime wouldn’t be able to get away with what they do.

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Decency

Twenty percent decency is nothing to rejoice about, but it is not nothing either. It would be informative to hear the corresponding proportions in other countries (weighted by the proportion of refugees that actually stay there).

That Hungarian people are “pretty xenophobic, to them train-loads of black or brown people, speaking different languages, and often wearing unfamiliar clothing, really are disturbing and threatening” is not a justification for their uncharitable attitude: it is their uncharitable attitude.

The MSzP, LMP and even the DK proportions were shocking and revolting. I begin to empathize with those who deride the opposition too.

Webber
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Don’t be too hard on little people. They have other worries. Many simply say what they believe power wants them to say, or simply ape what they hear without thought, or even much understanding. The leadership is showing them this way is the “right” way, that is all. The example is being set by government through its media.

Webber
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Stevan Harnad – when you think of little people in Hungary, please remember this, too (below).

Forgive them.
Fidesz says things are getting better and better in Hungary. And Fidesz says that is not a church.
God save us all.

re-barbara
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Webber is right. Most people always conform to the perceived majority opinion. Since the left-wing ceded the migration discourse to the right-wing entirely (meaning all leftist parties are officially mute ‘cos they all deem the issue too ‘controversial’) people naturally assume that the government’s (right-wing’s) opinion and approach are the consensus in Hungary. The majority just adopts this perceived consensus.

Webber
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This video is even better. Says it all – this, too, is Hungary:
http://index.hu/video/2015/04/04/akiknek_a_blaharol_jon_a_husveti_vacsora/

tappanch
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The number of “captured illegal migrants” to Hungary between January 1 and August 31, 2015 was

155,358

http://nol.hu/belfold/parancsnoka-mar-van-a-hatarvadaszoknak-1560407
http://police.hu/hirek-es-informaciok/hatarinfo/elfogott-migransok-szama

tappanch
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The ratio of under-18 children was between 1/6 and 1/4 every day in the last 17 days.

Geza Kmetty
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I am ashamed for Hungary!

tappanch
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@Anna: you are right.

http://www.mazsihisz.hu/2015/08/31/kozlemeny–lemondott-bojte-jozsef-a-zsido-kulturalis-fesztival-muveszeti-vezetoje-8084.html

Balogh (minister of “human power resources”) wants to put a Soviet occupation memorial on Freedom square (after the German one with the proud Nazi eagle), against the wishes of the Jewish community.

http://444.hu/2015/09/01/a-mazsihisz-elnoke-tiz-eves-orszagos-emlekmu-epitesi-moratoriumot-szeretne/

I would like to see a Fidesz-occupation memorial erected with their totem bird, the magpie (szarka).

Richard Ray
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I was on the Keleti-Germany RailJet train. I got on at Kelenfold and off at Gyor. It was very crowded; reminded me of getting into a football match in Armenia as I got on the train. Plenty of crowding, but a pretty quiet and tired group. A few kids curled up on the floor, all the seats overfilled and sitting side by side in the aisle. They helped us with our luggage and let us two sit down in a seat, much to the chagrin of a teenager, I told him thank you in Arabic, and he nodded. Most were teens-30 yr old men. Almost all from northern Syria. Some were singing along with a song playing on a phone. They did not know how long the train ride would take. I gave them an idea how long it normally takes to Munich and beyond, but no telling where they stopped later. I wished them luck as we got off in Gyor.

tappanch
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tappanch
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I would like to see a Fidesz-occupation memorial erected with their totem bird, the magpie (szarka).

Background:

Balogh (minister of “human power resources”) wants to put a Soviet occupation memorial on
Freedom square (after the German one with the proud Nazi eagle), against the wishes of the Jewish community.

Gergely
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And there is already the Soviet memorial and the Reagan statue on Szabadság tér (not to mention the Horthy statue which stands on private property). The Fideszniks are crazy about memorials (money to some loyal fidesznik artists) and are on a mission to f*ck up every public space with tasteless statues. Top Fideszniks are mostly rural people who hate Budapest and this is their revenge.

There is a symbolic war waged by fideszniks and the leftists never understood symbolism and its importance.

spectator
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Somehow connected: Today I read about some interview with a person called ‘Rogan” who happens to be the leader of the Fidesz parliamentary caucus. Among other things he expressed his wish that his future grandson “shouldn’t live in the European Caliphate” – referring this way to the present refugee situation. First I thought, he shouldn’t worry that much, because if his grandson qualifies above “IQ light”, he can go just about anywhere he wishes. Anyway, even if he will stay and keep on with the family traditions what runs in the dynasty, Jr. Abdullah Ibn Rogan could just as well be the major of district V. in Budapest, why not? The only positive change will be that since Islam don’t accept depicting of humans, we could skip all those kitschy low quality statues what his granddad polluting the city with… But later on I managed to figure out the true reason! You see, the Sharia law punish stealing by chopping of the hand of the offenders. (Truly ‘disarming’ old habit, I would say.) Now, imagine this: with a precious few exceptions, how on Earth would the overwhelming majority of the Fdesz caucus be able to vote in the Hungarian parliament… Read more »
tappanch
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Average number of hours worked by an employee in 2013

Germany: 1363
France: 1474 (7.4% more)
US: 1788 (30.2% more)
Hungary: 1880 (36.9% more)
Greece: 2060 (51.1% more)

http://index.hu/chart/2015/08/31/rengeteget_dolgoznak_a_magyarok/

tappanch
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Breaking (10 minute old) news:

No train will leave Keleti railroad station today. Authorities simply closed down the station.

Dear (e/im)migrants, go to ” Kőbánya felső” or “Rákos” stations

http://www.mavcsoport.hu/havaria/keleti-palyaudvar-nem-indit-es-nem-fogad-vonatokat

Guest

The non-Fidesz TV station ATV is reporting from the Keleti railway station. The station is closed for trains out and in, and the building is evacuated. Outside about 5000 refugees are shouting “we want to go”. They shout in English, probably not imagining that very few Hungarians master foreign languages.

hó
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István
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It is likely that the refugee crisis will let up some what as colder weather approaches. But it also very likely that refugees from Syria will actually increase in the Spring. Some of the refugees from Syria are effectively soft and wealthy supporters of the Bathist Bashar al-Assad regime, the support for that government was always based heavily among Syrian Christians a minority Assad went to some lengths to protect. The minority Alawites are the backbone of the Assad government and their tendency if they are fleeing is to go to Shiite Muslim nations. Now Christians are about 50% supporters of the Assad government with many supporting the US backed Christian Free Syrian Army. The Assad government is steadily slipping and losing territory to the Islamic State and the Christians including Armenians, Assyrians, Druze, Palestinians, Kurds, Yazidi face fundamentalist slavery or forced conversion by IS (see http://www.wsj.com/articles/syrias-assad-admits-war-is-taking-toll-on-government-forces-1437926464 on the collapsing military situation of Assad). Tens of thousands of young men are deserting from the Assad forces and clearly some of the young Syrian men making their way to Hungary are amongst those deserters. Some of the Syrians fleeing to Europe are themselves supporters of Bathist authoritarianism and themselves supported the… Read more »
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@István
September 1, 2015 at 7:52 am

In 1956 too, there were plenty of former Arrow Cross members and also common criminals in the Hungarian refugee camps, and even some former ÁVO members “on the quiet.”

It was a motley crew, a lot of it not particularly pretty.

So the Syrians are not that different in this respect, except that they come from a heck of a lot more brutal culture than even those Szállasi/Rákosi era Hungarians of 1956.

That sort of mix among refugees and illegal economic immigrants would seem unfortunately quite inevitable in a situation of general breakdown of social order.

tappanch
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Two weeks ago, I talked to a American volunteer, who teaches English to Syrian refugees in Turkey. (She had just come out of Turkey for a few weeks, because of Turkish visa requirements) She said that almost all of the refugees are Sunni Muslims. Her reasoning was that the fighting takes place in mostly Sunni territory so far. This can change of course, if the fronts shift.

Member

“very odd seeing European liberals treating all refugees as innocents”

I wonder how many (ex) communist party members fled in 56 from Hungary …

tappanch
Guest

“The number of people registered as unemployed in Germany is at 2.79 million, the lowest level since December 1991.”

“The unemployment rate – which measures the jobless total against the working population as a whole – stood at 6.4 percent in August, the lowest level since west and east Germany reunited in 1990”

“Germany’s top official dealing with refugees said on Monday that there was ‘no upper limit’ to Germany’s capacity for taking in people in need of asylum.”

tappanch
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Germany 2014 [2013]

rejected asylum seekers obliged to leave 154,191 [131,598]

% of them that are “tolerated” 73.4% [71.8%]
% of them required to leave immediately 26.6% [28.2%]
% of rejected asylum seekers actually leaving Germany 14.1% [12.6%]

http://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article145799121/Mit-diesen-Tricks-werden-Abschiebungen-verhindert.html

Guest

The SPIEGEL reports from Munich:
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/muenchen-buerger-helfen-fluechtlingen-am-hauptbahnhof-a-1050919.html
German citizens brought so much stuff to help the refugees at the Munich railway station that there was a radio broadcast:
Please don’t bring any more today – we have enough and there is no room to store more things (clothes etc) …
Overwhelming!

Bowen
Guest

The news at Keleti is front page around Europe, and headlining on the BBC now. (It’s barely being mentioned on hirado.hu, but that’s normal, I guess.)

I’m surprised by all the strangely aggressive right-wing comments, basically supporting the Hungarian government – even on the Guardian’s news site.

Zempléni
Guest

Orban’s talented young guns put back those arrogant French and Austrians to their places.

The proud Hungarian nation will take no shit from anybody.

Imagine the lefties in a similar situation, with their tails between their legs.

http://index.hu/belfold/2015/09/01/a_kulugy_visszautasitja_a_nyugati_biralatokat/

Webber
Guest

That was the most idiotic response possible from the FM. Now those “arrogant French and Austrians” are considering suspending Hungary’s Schengen membership, meaning no more free travel from Hungary to the West. Why? If you join a club, you agree to keep the rules and norms established by the club before you joined, otherwise you are out. EU and Schengen membership are not God given rights.

spectator
Guest

“The proud Hungarian nation will take no shit from anybody.”

But of course!
Pure Hungarian shit for the proud Hungarian people, nothing, but!
Not to mention, there is no place for any other kind – they are already full of it..!

Guest

I’m still hoping that this was a sarcastic comment – Orbán, young, talented seems to me a triple oxymoron …
Arrogant sounds about right however!

tappanch
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The Hungarian flag – the barbed wire version
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Rikard
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I see that in a few weeks Hungary will be tightening up the border and all illegal crossings. The military as I understand it can use ‘excessive force’ to uphold the laws. So not only in a twist of irony where there’s another ‘wall’ in CE there’s also the possibility that ‘shoot on sight’ killings may also occur around the border areas as in postwar Berlin if refugees ignore the law and try to enter. Surely not an enticing picture for Hungary and its combative relationship to refugees. Arguably if bullets fly, Hungary’s face will be immeasurably pock-marked and slit up.

You know years on when perhaps the country opines on its dismal lack of ‘friends’ (countries like people usually need’em) they in their reverie may ask themselves if it was perhaps better to give out cups of water and a piece of old-fashioned ‘kenyer’, that staff of life throughout the world, rather than introducing the foreigners to their country with cutting steel and a vicious welcome. It would seem payback can be a …….

Webber
Guest

Military officers who order soldiers to fire on civilians – even civilians illegally crossing a border – can be, and will be prosecuted under international law.

spectator
Guest

Something for sure, payback always coming, one way or another.

D7 Democrat (@D7Democrat)
Guest

“Orban’s talented young guns put back those arrogant French and Austrians to their places.”

Translated:

Orban’s beer-bellied, wife-beating, racist buffoons once again demonstrate their ignorance and lack of pure and simple decent human values. When politicians blame innocent women and children for “allowing” themselves to be murdered in the back of container lorries, you know you have hit rock bottom.

May they collectively rot in hell and until that glorious days happens get them thrown not only out of Schengen but the EU full stop. They have no right to be there.

gfájl
Guest

Spot on.

That said, the Austrians or French or whoever they are, always, without fail participate in Orban’s media show.

This index.hu article essentially spread the news that the these talented politicians finally got tough with the hapless, wussy Western diplomats.

Why can’t we read any article (even assuming that index.hu and origo.hu are Fidesz-leaning) that Merkel or whoever gets tough with Orban or Szijjártó?

(N.B: merkeln: Nichtstun, keine Entscheidungen treffen, keine Äußerungen von sich geben, Bezug auf Angela Merkel.).

It’s really as if the Western politicians would receive secret enjoyment from being neutered and continuously taken advantage of by Eastern European dictators. They are manifestly unable to “put back Orban to his place” and they just don’t care.

They must know – it’s 2015 and not 1990 – that in Eastern Europe only raw power, exercised, is what creates respect.

Acting oh so gentlemanly means you are a (töketlen) ball-less weakling. This is a different culture here and Western people need to understand that, alas they will forever continue to play their assigned parts in Orban’s show.

Guest

Mrs Merkel is concentrating on the real problems – how to manage the flood of refugees etc.
Fidesz is just an annoying fly, not really dangerous because it has no sting – the swatter will be used one day, I’m sure …
And you shouldn’t forget that even under Orbán’s regime most Hungarians are hard working, whether as guest workers in DACH or in Kecskemét for Mercedes and at the Balaton for the tourists …
My friends still visit us and enjoy the good food, the cheap massages, hairdressing etc – even bring their cars for repairs which are half the price here …
Politics are not on their agenda – not one of our visitors this summer had any problems there!

csko
Guest

I guess t he point isn’t Merkel. It’s that nobody gets tough with this annoying fly. Orban always has the last lough.

These gentlemen of the west could not even utter some tough words. They are participating in Orban’s games and happily play the role of the punching bag. I never understood why.

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Kirsten
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In Germany there are also people who do not welcome the refugees heartily, and complaints about the state of the refugee camp e.g. in Dresden but in principle in many places were quite loud. And it is yet to be seen what the most recent announcement not to send back refugees from Syria will mean in practice, for instance for the waiting time to get registered and for the case to be decided.
But what I do find strange is that Orban puts most hopes into his wall and does not come to a “Balkans” meeting where a quite useful decision could be prepared about a central registration of people in Greece, Italy etc. and also a decision about their distribution within the EU. Surely the number of people that Hungary would have to accommodate based on quotas would be far lower than what is currently being “accommodated”, the only difference being that the standards would have to be raised quite a bit. But of course, on second thought, how could standards be raised for some refugees when those of the “indigenous” population are lowered by the day…?

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