Ideology and culture: The Mária Petrás case

In the last few days one gets the impression, especially if one reads a lot of British, American, German, and French newspapers, that life in Hungary has stopped outside of railroad stations and the Serb-Hungarian border. But of course life goes on, and the Hungarian media is full of smaller and larger issues of note.

One controversy centers on the Jewish Cultural Festival. The topic is not as unrelated to the refugee question as one would think because the dispute is about the extent to which one should tolerate performing artists who have direct or indirect connections with extreme right-wing groups. The case in point is Mária Petrás, a well-known folk singer whose specialty is the music of the Csango/Ceangăi people, who have been living for centuries in the Romanian region of Moldavia and who speak an old Hungarian dialect. By now their number is very small. Perhaps 4,000. Petrás herself comes from that small community.

József Böjte, who served as the artistic director of the Jewish Cultural Festival, didn’t invite Mária Petrás directly. She came along with a famous group of folk musicians called Muzsikás (Music Maker). Three years ago they, together with András Schiff, gave a very successful concert–“The Roots and Routes of Bartók”–in New York. It was favorably reviewed in The New York Times. The lead singer was Mária Petrás, whose voice was highly praised by the reviewer.

The Muzsikás group with Mária Petrás in Csángó folk costume

The Muzsikás group with Mária Petrás in Csángó folk costume

But then came a letter to the editor of Népszava, whose author found Petrás’s presence at the festival problematic. The reader pointed out that Mária Petrás has been a participant at several far-right events where she recited poems by the anti-Semitic Albert Wass and has sung at concerts where extremist rock singers who call their music “national rock” also appeared. In addition, she happens to be the wife of Kornél Döbrentei, an openly anti-Semitic writer, whose burning of the flag of Israel back in 2004 resulted in the departure of 108 writers and poets from the Writers’ Union when the Union’s leadership refused to distance themselves from Döbrentei.

The letter to the editor was correct. Mária Petrás did appear at Magyar Sziget, a yearly “cultural festival” of far-right groups who entertain their like-minded audience, although by now she has no recollection of the event. She participated in the Albert Wass Marathon, a twenty-four-hour reading from Wass’s writings in Pomáz, where she and Döbrentei live. She also sang at a birthday party for Kornél Bakay, an archeologist and historian, whose dubious, unscientific theories are coupled with extremist, Nazi views, including his attraction to the ideas of Ferenc Szálasi. And finally she did perform at one of the events organized by Loránt Hegedűs, Jr., the infamous anti-Semitic minister. All in all, the organizers decided that to have Petrás sing in the synagogue was inappropriate. Muzsikás, the group that invited Petrás, decided to scrap their performance in a show of support for Petrás.

That was bad enough, but what followed was even worse. Fidesz obviously feels very strongly about Mária Petrás just as it did about her husband back in 2004 when he, most likely dead drunk, wanted to board a British Airways flight but was ordered off the plane by the captain. Döbrentei claimed that the captain removed him because he wore the Hungarian tricolor on his lapel and because he complained that Magyar Nemzet was not available. Fidesz demanded an immediate investigation by the government. The party also charged that the British pilot was instructed, allegedly by the socialist-liberal government, to remove him for political reasons.

This time around the Orbán government decided to make a huge issue of the Petrás case. With the permission of the prime minister’s office, Undersecretary Csaba Latorcai, who is in charge, believe it or not, of “especially significant societal affairs” (kiemelt társadalmi ügyekért felelős helyettes államtitkár), delivered a speech to the audience gathered in the synagogue in Dohány utca. Instead of talking about the significance of the event, he delivered a lesson on tolerance. He explained that “culture” means dialogue but that dialogue must be based on truthfulness. “Falsehood kills dialogue,” and what happened in this case was a smear campaign against the singer without any foundation. The Hungarian government, he said, declared zero tolerance against anti-Semitism, racism, and discrimination, but “it also stands by those who are accused of anti-Semitism based on lies of an unverified document.” And he went on and on, although the audience tried several times to give him the idea that they are no longer interested in his message. The first time the audience began to applaud in the middle of one of his sentences he was merely surprised. Subsequently, he concentrated on finishing his speech no matter how many times the audience wanted to silence him. Fidesz guys usually have their way. At the end he managed to convey the government’s demand: Mazsihisz should apologize to Mária Petrás.

Let’s set aside the oafish behavior of this man and just concentrate on the question of truthfulness. Who was not telling the truth? I’m afraid it was Csaba Latorcai because no one accused Mária Petrás of anti-Semitism. The reason for her withdrawal from the program was her frequent appearances at events associated with far-right anti-Semitic groups or persons. As for the “unverified document,” meaning the letter to the editor in Népszava, it was checked and found to be a reliable source of information. In fact, it was only a partial list of her appearances at far-right events.

A few hours later József Böjte, the artistic director of the Jewish Cultural Festival, tendered his resignation, which was accepted by the president of Mazsihisz, András Heisler. Another controversial move. Surely, the audience that tried to drown out the undersecretary’s inappropriate speech was satisfied with Böjte’s decision to “disinvite” Petrás. But it seems that the leaders of Mazsihisz decided that refusing to accept Böjte’s resignation was too risky given the mood of the prime minister’s office. The original speaker at the event was supposed to be János Lázár himself, and it was only in the last minute that Latorcai had to replace him. Surely, the content of that speech was approved by Lázár himself. It looks as if Mazsihisz decided to sacrifice Böjte. They refused, however, to apologize, at least openly.

So, the Petrás affair looks like a messy draw, but another issue is on the docket that will undoubtedly cause serious friction between Mazsihisz and the Orbán government. It is Zoltán Balog’s determination to erect yet another memorial on Szabadság tér, this time in memory of the victims of the Soviet occupation. Another controversial topic, another round of fighting. We know who has the upper hand.

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koeszmeod
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Bojte was asked by Heisler and Kunos to resign in order to receive government funds. The leaders of Mazsihisz threw him under the bus for government money. Heisler and Mazsihisz continue to serve the racist anti-Semite government.

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She is clearly a very gifted, intelligent and thoughtful artist, trying to re-create and keep alive her Csango traditions. It is hard to imagine her married to a drunken bigot; even harder to imagine her performing at a neo-nazi rock festival. Maybe she is so immersed in the world she has re-created that she is unattentive to and untouched by what is alien to it.

They were right to disinvite her because of her participation in the extreme right’s bogus nationalism and ethnocentrism. She says in this film that she was raised to try to strive to do better. If she is as wise as she is gifted, she will learn to be more discriminating about whom she agrees to share her traditions with.

Shame on Heisler for his craven collaborationism.

Member

Orban’s exalted outrage, conveyed in a command performance by his henchman, is all the more despicable for trying to insinuate himself, along with the monstrous caricature of culture he has crafted by manipulativeness and malevolence, into the simple purity of the folk tradition and artistry that she is trying to preserve and perpetuate.

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@Stevan Harnad September 1, 2015 at 9:42 pm What exactly would you have Heisler do? The political and social comfort zone of the vast majority of Hungarians is a peculiar mix of far-out Christian Nationalism and National Socialism, and that is the kind of government and political leadership they prefer. The vital social and educational services provided by MAZSIHISZ are utterly dependent on funding by that kind of government and political leadership. Incidentally, Heisler and Kunos themselves get no pay for what they do in their respective official capacities; they serve entirely on a pro bono basis. So what exactly would you have Heisler do in these circumstances? I don’t have time right now to rewrite the following in English, but this is what I commented yesterday in Szombat online in connection to one of the responses to a question (körkérdés) put to leading lights in Hungarian political and intellectual life (with apologies to those who do not read Hungarian): A valóság az, hogy a zsidó származású és nem-zsidó származású magyar mint olaj és víz, és kétségbeesetten próbálkozni akár magyar zsidónak, akár pedig zsidó magyarnak lenni egyaránt szánalmas, tudathasadásos törekvés fából vaskarikát csinálni. Ma egy zsidó származású ember csakis a… Read more »
mbloftus
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@Mike Balint

You state that the Anglo-Saxon countries and Israel are the only places Jews can really feel at home nowadays.

Would you recommend Jews try Austria and Germany as viable alternatives, too?

If so, why? If not, why not?

I know many Jews in those countries who seem to be thriving.

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@mbloftus September 2, 2015 at 3:25 am Hmm. I take your point. As far as non-observant, completely secular Jews like myself are concerned, you are of course absolutely right. But as far as outwardly identifiable religious Jews are concerned, those in Germany, Holland, France, Belgium, Sweden, Denmark, Norway or indeed the UK (all countries where there are significant communities of such Jews) have become increasingly uncomfortable over the past two decades or so, due to the presence of large Moslem minorities much agitated over the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and taking it out on outwardly identifiable Jews in the local streets. Austria only has a very tiny Jewish population, significantly less than ten thousand, and those among them who are identifiably Jewish are a mere minuscule handful. If however there were significantly more, particularly of the outwardly identifiable kind, the powerful native antisemitic sentiments of Austrians would no doubt come instantly to the fore, not much differently from the situation obtaining in Hungary. None of these issues are however present either in overseas Anglo-Saxon countries of immigration or in Israel. That in Israel a Jew might however feel that s/he has fallen “cseberből vederbe” – from the frying pan to the fire… Read more »
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@mbloftus
September 2, 2015 at 3:25 am

Correction:

Disregard Norway in my post above. Norway does not of course have a significant Jewish population, religious or otherwise. Slipped in inadvertently.

mbloftus
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Thank you for your reply. Unfortunately you have confirmed my suspicions. At any rate, my American Jewish friends are very celebratory of their Judaism, one gets the sense they are totally comfortable with being identified as Jewish, even if they are not religiously observant. They’re some of the nicest, most open, most tolerant people you’ll ever meet. My Jewish acquaintances from London, however … I didn’t even know they were Jewish until I had formed closer relationships with them, and then one day they spilled the beans, as if betraying some dark family secret. The Hungarian Jews have it even harder. For instance, my sister-in-law was returning to Bp. from Israel last spring. While everybody was still boarding the plane in Israel, a young Hungarian (non-Jew, he was a Calvinist on pilgrimage to the Holy Land) made a silly, loud comment: “I hope there won’t be any more Jews boarding the plane, I’m fed up seeing them.” He said this very loudly in Hungarian, I suppose he thought “the Jews” didn’t speak Hungarian. At which point an elderly Jewish man turned around calmly and said, in perfect Hungarian, “Don’t worry young man. There’ll be many, many more of us boarding… Read more »
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@mbloftus
September 2, 2015 at 5:44 am

I am not quite with you. What suspicion of yours have I confirmed?

Incidentally, I have no problem whatsoever with observant, religious Jews of any stripe or colour. We are all members of the same tribe, or as Stevan Harnad so aptly put it a couple of days ago, the same community of fate. Brothers and sisters whether we happen to be observant and religious or non-observant and secular.

You appear to have misconstrued the thrust of my post.

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@mbloftus
September 2, 2015 at 5:44 am

Or perhaps I misconstrued yours? :-))

mbloftus
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Perhaps!

My suspicion was that Vienna and Berlin, although wonderful places to visit and do business, still have a long way to go before a Jew, observant or not, would feel himself at home there … to the point where he could imagine himself living there forever.

Your thoughtful analysis simply confirmed this suspicion!

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Not too much OT: On my regular visits to London I also met several young Jews – the owners of the famous Science Fiction bookshop Forbidden Planet – I was introduced to them by the manger: One of our best customers … When they heard that I was German they told me they had no problem with me (I had brought some German beer …) but because of what had happened to their families they wouldn’t visit Germany … Another thing: Around five years ago we went on holiday to the USA, travelling on an American Airlines plane from Budapest to New York. The connection had just been started (early April, and we got an extremely good price!) and at check in one could see that people were still being trained in security – an overseer watched while young Hungarians asked all the typical questions re our luggage, even: Have any of your electronics been to repair lately? On both the flight to New York and back there were many Jews on board (we talked to a young American couple who had visited family in Budapest), a lot of them Orthodox in their traditional garb – no problem of course… Read more »
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Re: ‘I have a hard time believing such an exchange would or could ever occur in the United States, Canada, or AU/NZ in the year 2015’

I’d suggest if young Hungarians have attitudes like the one noted they should think very carefully here in my neck of the woods before they open their mouths or they just might end up in a hospital. If he says it loud he’ll draw a crowd and he would be wishing he was fishing in the Balaton. In fact he may indeed ‘sleep with the fishes’.

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Collaboration and Survival

Belated reply to @Mike Balint: “What exactly would you have Heisler do?”

When it comes to efforts to placating a dictator (Orban) who is threatening to un-fund vital welfare services to the Jewish elderly, I have no idea what to do.

All I can say is that if things have gotten so desperate that the quid-pro-quo for sustaining life-and-death support from Orban has become the necessity to follow an Orbanian diktat to fire Böjte under these circumstances, then the neo-nazi nation is even further along the path to perdition than one would have thought.

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I am always perplexed about how art is being used for political purposes and the other way around. Do we expect all artists to be politically versed or politically take sides? How far can an artist go before s/he is being aligned with representing “one political camp”? I do not have the answer. the only thing I know is that I used to attend Muzsikas dance house and that was before they were “famous”. I always enjoyed their music, and I do love Maria Petras. Is she an anti-semite? I do not think so. Should she perform controversial events? Is she being used? Does she simply want to promote a “micro culture”? I honestly do nothing she tries to generate hate. I can’t say anything about her relationship but I would like to say Ballo and Morvai.
There are several artists who survived controversial choices, still their legacy will leave on because after all the art is art. Elia Kazan, Leni Riefenstahl

CIA used art and so did the Soviets….There is a great article I read long time ago, and thank goodness I found it.

Modern art was CIA ‘weapon’
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/modern-art-was-cia-weapon-1578808.html

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http://youtu.be/6Gem7Tp_WRI Right now I’d say this piece by Muzsikas says it all…..plenty of ‘baj, baj, baj’ all around now. And with the idea of Petras being anti-Semitic I’d wonder how that went over with Muzsikas itself since they are pretty well involved in ethnomusicology so much that they produced a work titled ‘The Lost Jewish Music of Transylvania’. It is there that they try to back their view from extensive research that Hungarian Jewish village music in ‘at least’ Transylvania was a stand-alone tradition differing from Jewish and from the surrounding Hungarian tradition offering a very independent musical style. Curious if Muzsikas thought they are painted with the same brush after really working all that music out. And perhaps both Petras and the group after this may just realize indeed how art and politics intersect if they could be considered ‘used’ to fulfill other political agendas. Brings up Mr. Schiff. A great musical talent yet he to my knowledge will not perform in Hungary. For a man like him to play Mozart and Beethoven in front of those of Orban’s ilk would be a desecration of his commitment to art and music and to a keeping of his own integrity.… Read more »
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I think there is one thing Orban and Fidesz perfected way better than any political party in Hungarian history. They perfected how to play one group against the other. There is no program, there are no offers, simply they turned friends against friends, social groups against social groups, demographics against demographics, families against each other. Their program built on hate, greed, and opportunism for any and all prize.

tappanch
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(Expenditure on education) / GDP in Eastern Europe, 2004-2013.
Orban’s Hungary (red line) spends the least on education.
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tappanch
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We don’t need no education:

https://youtu.be/YR5ApYxkU-U?t=140

tappanch
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from 2:20

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Perfecto tappanch perfecto! The numbers tell all and perhaps a signpost for the future of Hungary.

If that education scenario continues its fall I can only think the stratification of society will get more compartmentalized with increasing divisions on education, income and class position. Really only those on the ‘top of the heap’ will enjoy Magyar existence. No doubt that all holds implications for the political situation in the country down the road.

If you can’t think and make ‘connections’ how then can that be squared with making contributions and trying to live in that society? And further to put one’s stamp on it in some way?

And just a little something here from ‘The Stupids’ a hilarious set of children’s books highlighting vignettes on the escapades of that ‘family’. Here’s one situation they found themselves in:

“On the spur of the moment
the Stupids decided to attend
little Patty Stupid’s birthday party
‘Why are there eight candles
on the cake?’ said Buster.
Because I didn’t have six’, said Patty.
That makes sense’, said Buster”

Nothing like having ‘tok fejeks’ arguably highlighting the way the ‘special ones’ think in their ministrations of state affairs…;-)…

tappanch
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Appearances by Petras on anti-Semitic events were collected in the following article:

http://www.szombat.org/politika/petras-maria-magyar-sziget-pro-es-kontra

tappanch
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Russian (!) television gives live broadcast from the Keleti railroad station:

https://youtu.be/KBJjmyyxWi0

tappanch
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Correction: Russians are broadcasting live (at 12:30 PM). Middle Easterners stand up for their interests much stronger than spirit-broken Hungarians.

LwiiH
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I was thinking, what does it say to have a large group of people not want to stay in Hungary. Why should people be happy that their country is so desirable that people would protest to leave it.

Bowen
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Are the Russians expecting something to happen?

ssurff
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This is serious. I mean it’s a joke, but it’s for real.

Ferenc Szaniszlo the IMO-graduate, KGB employed TV journalist at Echo TV (which is somewhat to the right of the usual government mouthpieces but is still Fidesz-controlled) in true Russian propaganda fashion nonchalantly let it be known that the late Steve Jobs of Apple was actually


yes, Hungarian (real name Istvan Munkácsy).

I shit you not.

http://r0ll1ngr0ll0.tumblr.com/post/128130043671/boing

gerh
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hoxa
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A The Onion style very funny post (in Hungarian) about what would have happened in 2007 if Gyurcsany had a migrant crisis.

Actually the post is quite serious because it obviously shows the limitless creativity of Fidesz to get into the media, create buzz, to get access to voters. Today however when the Left is in opposition, the leftists are all uniformly mute, numb, still on vacation etc., or in other words just lazy as leftists are known to be.

http://sztivan.tumblr.com/post/128107869103/a-gyurcsány-féle-menekültválság

Thomas
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Did you now that while Hungary had to get tough with the overly arrogant Austrian and French ministers yesterday Ms. Merkel specially praised Hungary for its efficient registration of the migrants?

(So said the tax-payer paid Kossuth radio).

http://intimrape.tumblr.com/post/128095421711/magyarországot-a-kancellár-asszony-külön

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TEST 6 (My apologies for the Test comments for the past three days. Eva is experiencing some issues that we try to resolve by turning some features on and off.)

tappanch
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My guess that the Middle Easterners will be allowed to leave tomorrow or on Friday for Germany when

Orban got some extra money from Merkel.
Hungarian Parliament voted for martial law measures (like police can enter any home without search warrant using the pretext of looking for migrants), which will be used against the domestic opposition for years.

D7 Democrat (@D7Democrat)
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I am always sure the humanitarian evacuation from Orban’s Hellhole that is the Keleti Underpass will happen before Friday- on Friday Hungary play Romania down the road from Keleti and every social misfit-nazi-opportunist hooligan in Hungary will be out to get the “foreigners”. The police are just about maintaining order at the moment but it is well beyond their capabilites to prevent death (and that is not hyperbole) if we have 2 or 3,000 magyar hooligans high on Fidesz/Jobbik hatespeech running rampant on Friday night. Orban, contrary to his idiot voters, is not God. His fence has not prevented one refugee from entering his fiefdom but, by golly as the fence been a profitable tool for his mafia. And not just the fence. Fidesz chieftains locally (and by extension the Godfather himself) are making as much money as they can fleecing the refugees, transporting them to the capital and further afield. Think any kind of crime on this kind of profitable scale happens in Orbanistan without Fidesz taking its substantial share? Then, wise up and think again. Merkel and Co still don’t really fathom the kind of immmoral (or more accurately ammoral) scum they are dealing with when they soli… Read more »
centrum
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D7: Great, that’s what some of us have been saying too. Merkel and Co simply have no idea.

It’s like a man could never understand what it is like to be a woman (a white what is like to be a black person etc.), an educated, middle-class Western European could never understand people like Orban. They could have four Phds and 40 years of experience, they still wouldn’t understand them.

Orban knows this (and Putin does too) and take advantage of the Western politicians. And they forever will.

Guest

“Merkel and Co simply have no idea.”
I think you’re wrong there – they know exactly what they’re up against – but the rules of the EU, they are not dictators, it takes time!
In the long run however Orbán will fail just like Berlusconi or Haider or the Kazynskis in Poland.
Just have a look at the German media.
Of course the locals have to bear the brunt – they voted them in!

D7 Democrat (@D7Democrat)
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Problem now Wolfi is that we are working on a very short time scale or fuse, if you like.

Merkel and Co need to act tonight or Orban and his regime will have no compunction whatsoever at adding more dead refugee babies and kids onto his daily ever-expanding crime sheet.

Guest

Interesting info for all those “overwhelmed” (especially the Brits …) by the refugee/migrant problem – a sane voice in the wilderness!
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/aug/10/10-truths-about-europes-refugee-crisis

Paul
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Thanks for that link Wolfi, I missed it when it came out (rather ironically, because we were in Hungary!)

András B. Göllner
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My, my, what a meandering stream of consciousness in the wake of an article which puts a very tough but important question on the table: Can we allow artistic genius to serve as an excuse for the artist’s blindness to social injustice? Thomas Mann, Herman Hesse and so many other artists have given us a very straightforward No to this question. Mária Petrás may indeed be in possession of a wonderful singing voice. Her blindness, insensitivity to the hateful, racist views of the people she entertains and surrounds herself with is inexcusable and greatly diminishes her stature as a person of honor and civility. Such a person has no business before a community that was devastated, virtually annihilated by similarly minded Hungarians. If the Hungarian Jewish community accepts the Orbán regime’s barter – we’ll give you funds if you shut your mouth about our tolerance of bigotry and racial hatred in Hungary – than it is digging its own demise. It would not be the first time that the leaders of that community would commit such an error. This is not the time for forgetfulness but for remembrance.

spectator
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My grandma used to say: “Those who mixed up whit the bran getting eaten up by the pigs” – or thereabout.
“Aki korpa közé keveredik, megeszik a disznók” – in Hungarian.

Without knowing her I dare to speculate that she is a victim of the nationalist brainwashing which goes on since quite some years in Hungary. Quite a few people with basically good intentions got their brains garbled about the subject.
How they can be “good Hungarians”, “true supporters of Orbán”, “religious conservatives” and “decent humans” at the same time?
Since the last one usually is the least obvious and clearly conflicting with the others, they tend to omit it first.

Unfortunately, in my opinion the ‘artist’ and the ‘human’ must be one and the same, I can’t accept one without the other.

I recommend some films to dig into the problem deeper. A lot deeper, as it happens.

István Szabó – Mephisto (1981)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082736/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

Ingmar Bergman – Shame (1968)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063611/?ref_=nm_flmg_wr_36

tappanch
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The bravest voice of opposition in Orbanistan, September 2015:
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tappanch
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tappanch
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the software does not like the address of this photo about a small child at Keleti holding up a sign:

“We don’t want to stay in Hungary”

Member

Attila Jozsef (a Hungarian poet) wrote this short poem in 1936. It’s called “Two Hexameters”.

“Mért legyek én tisztességes? Kiterítenek úgyis!
Mért ne legyek tisztességes! Kiterítenek úgyis.”

It’s something like this:

“Why should I be principled? I’ll be put to death either way!
Why should I not be principled? I’ll be put to death either way!”

A lot of famous people – not only artists – get ground up by ideologies. Especially now during the Orban regime when these minions are trying to surround themselves with talent. These people hang out with the wrong crowd then they pretend to be surprised when they are judged later.

But not making a statement is a powerful statement too. No escape of it. The sooner they realize it the better.

“So, because you are lukewarm—neither hot nor cold—I am about to spit you out of my mouth.”

tappanch
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The Czech government decided to let any Syrians go to Germany, starting today.

The Orban government is preparing for a police action to send the refugees somewhere (ghetto in Hungary? or nice apartments in Germany?) by a special train waiting on platform 6 of Keleti.

Ex-premier Gyurcsany took home several refugees.

http://hvg.hu/itthon/20150902_ujabb_nehez_nap_var_a_menekultekre

Webber
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They are taking them to camps. All of them are to be herded into fenced camps – but they are separating families as they do it. This is the Hungarian government’s response….

Rabomobillal viszik el a menekülteket a Keletiből

Folyamatosan szállítják el a Keletinél várakozó menekülteket, akik közül a rendőrök ötletszerűen válogatnak ki embereket, akiket aztán erőszakosan rabszállító kocsiba raktak. A Magyar Narancs szerint volt, akit a környező utcákról szedtek össze, és volt, akit internetkávézóból rángattak ki. A menekülteknek nem mondják meg, hogy hova viszik őket és azt sem, hogy a családjukat mikor láthatják újra. —
News here:
http://index.hu/belfold/2015/08/31/menekultek_bevandorlok_krizis_percrol_percre/

Tyrker
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So she’s good enough to perform at Carnegie Hall, but “inappropriate” for some low-impact cultural festival held in Budapest? Oh well.

Member

It’s a bummer, isn’t it, Tyker. Let’s not forget it’s a Jewish festival …

Member

If it s such low impact, I am sure she does not mind that she did not perform.

Guest
On art and politics. Dr. Katalin Gellér whose merits I know nothing about is the curator of an 150 years anniversary exhibition on the famous stained glass window maker Miksa Roth, whose works can be seen in scores of public and private buildings in Hungary and abroad. The exhibition includes a poster with a map of Europe where every town from Norway to Sicily, which has one or more buildings with Miksa Roths windows, are marked with a red dot. In addition there is a list of buildings with such windows in Budapest, and lists of Hungarian and foreign towns where Miksa Roth windows can be seen. In several art exhibitions in Hungary I have visited during the last few years I have been annoyed by irrelevant political statements in posters pretending to describe the works on display. Dr. Katalin Gellér has provided a new example in the Miksa Roth exhibition. In the list of towns in Hungary where Roths work can be seen she has included Gyulafehérvár, Kassa, Koloszvár, Pocsony and Temésvár. (Towns in Slovakia and Romania). Dr. Gellér does not annex the whole of Romania as the list of foreign towns where works of Roth can be inspected… Read more »
Bowen
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All is well in Orban Viktor’s world, and he’s got a new Facebook post to prove it.

I’ll say this for him – he’s an expert troll.

http://index.hu/belfold/2015/09/02/mindekozben_orban_viktor_teljes_nyugiban_olvasgatja_a_magyar_idoket/

spectator
Guest

And what he’s reading is: “Do we want our grandchildren to live in a European Caliphate?” – interview with Antal Rogán – for further inspiration I guess…

Member

The whole affair reminds me on this joke:

“Saying you aren’t an anti-Semite, because you have Jewish friends, is like saying your aren’t serial killer, because you have live friends …”

Paul
Guest

Orbán’s latest actions are causing utter consternation here in the UK. No one understands why Hungary, a country which has made it very clear that it doesn’t want refugees, is preventing them from leaving!

I’m frequently at a loss to explain what Orbán does and says, but this is madness even by his standards.

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