Richard Field: Experts discuss causes and consequences of the refugee crisis

This summary of a round table discussion appeared in the October 1 issue of Budapest Beacon. The participants are Daniel Kelemen of Rutgers University and Rafaela Dancygier and Kim Lane Scheppele, both of Princeton University. The discussion took place at Princeton on Tuesday, September 29.

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The end of the honeymoon?

Rafaela Dancygier, who studies ethnic diversity in advanced democracies, said she was puzzled by the fact that a vast majority of Germans supported the government’s decision to admit almost a million refugees so far this year and an additional 500,000 over the next four years.

Dancygier noted that this is the largest number of refugees to be taken in by Germany since the end of the Second World War, the major difference being that this time they are not ethnic German victims of ethnic cleansing, but people from the Middle-East and central Asia having no connection to Germany, culturally, linguistically or otherwise.

She said that traditionally Germans have not been all that welcoming of refugees, but according to a public opinion poll taken the previous month a vast majority of Germans supported the country taking in refugees, especially those fleeing persecution or war, in the belief that it will contribute to an “easing of the labor shortage.”  However, Dancygier is concerned the “honeymoon” of positive public opinion will end as the large inflow puts upward pressure on rents and inundates towns and cities in eastern Germany where support for right-wing, anti-immigrant parties is high.

“Refugees are a gift” for a country like Germany whose population has been shrinking and which suffers labor shortages, according to Dancygier, who notes that “Germany has been trying to get more migrants, especially highly skilled, without much success.”  However, while Syrians tend to be better educated than refugees from Afghanistan or Eritrea, “almost none of them know German.”   For this reason, she believes integrating them into the German economy will be challenging, “even at the high-skilled end.”

Where to settle the migrants?

Another problem Germany faces is where to put the refugees.  “Putting them in areas where housing is available is going to create problems,” she said. “Putting them where they are welcome will result in rents going up” and the “end of the honeymoon phase.”

“Many Germans believe the refugees should be housed in the east where there is a surplus of housing. The problem is that there are few jobs available in the east.”  Moreover, she noted that support for Germany’s far-right, anti-immigrant party is very high in the east.

The Dublin system is broken

Kim Lane Scheppele, who is the director of the Program in Law and Public Affairs at Princeton University in addition to being a professor of Sociology and International Affairs, focused on the legal aspect of Europe’s refugee crisis.

“The EU has a legal framework for virtually everything that it is going to do,” noted Scheppele, adding that “asylum law, international protection law, and law for processing applications is all EU law rather than Member State law.” She pointed out that even though asylum law is one of those areas where EU law has taken precedence over Member State law, “there are huge differences in how Member States handle crises.”

“EU law itself is broken, most specifically around the question of who is responsible for processing asylum claims,” Scheppele said.

She explained that the Dublin system requires asylum seekers to apply for asylum in the first EU state they enter, to prevent the making of multiple applications, noting that “It didn’t make sense then and it doesn’t make sense now.”

The lack of a unified system for evaluating asylum applications meant the likelihood of an application for asylum or international protection being approved depends where one applied.  She noted that Germany traditionally approves over 60 percent of asylum applications.  By contrast, “front-line” countries such as Hungary (9 percent) or Greece (4 percent) rejected far more applications than they approved.

Poor countries can’t afford to care for refugees

EU front-line Member States also happen to be among its poorest members, noted Scheppele. Under Dublin, frontline states had an obligation to register migrants and process asylum claims, as well as provide shelter, food, housing, medical care, and opportunity for employment while applications were pending.

“This is no big deal in the case of 50 people,” said Scheppele.  But it was a very big deal if all of a sudden tens or even hundreds of thousands of refugees showed up on your doorstep.

According to the professor of sociology and comparative law, Greece is no longer considered a front-line EU state because the European Court of Human Rights and the European Court of Justice ruled it is no longer capable of discharging its responsibilities to asylum seekers after having instituted austerity programs.

The result, said Scheppele, was that tens of thousands of refugees fleeing war and overcrowded refugee camps “discovered Hungary.”

Refugee ping-pong

Being a government “run by lawyers” Hungary “will always do something in law before they do it in practice,” she said.  “Whether the laws are a good idea or not is a different question.

“Seeing that it was going to be a front-line state, Hungary decided that it was going to build a fence along its 100-mile border with Serbia.” The only conceivable purpose of the fence was “to force refugees to enter the EU via Romania or Croatia, both EU Member States.”

“EU law requires front-line countries to register and fingerprint asylum seekers.  It doesn’t require Member States to treat them badly. Considering that the Dublin system was broken to begin with, Hungary could just have easily let the migrants pass through.

“What the Hungarians were extremely worried about was that the Dublin system would be one day invoked and Hungary would be stuck with all these people.  All refugees entering the EU via Hungary could, under EU law, be returned to Hungary. “

Scheppele said Hungary responded by modifying regulations governing granting asylum claims.  “According to this law at the first proceeding all judges are allowed to ask is ‘how did you get to Hungary?’.  If the answer is via a state deemed safe by Hungary, then the asylum judge is limited to saying we’re sending you back because under our law you have to be processed.”

To the extent Hungary’s modified asylum law is not compatible with EU law or that of neighboring countries, she warned it could result in “refugee ping-pong” with Germany or Austria deporting refugees whose asylum requests have been rejected back to Hungary which, in turn, deports them back to Germany or Austria.

A need for unified standards

She said standards used to process applications are also subject to EU law, and every Member State is required to determine whether the individual has a well-founded fear of persecution in the case of asylum claims, or whether the person has reason to fear violence as in the case for applications for international protection.

Observing that if “Hungary is going to violate EU law or doing something unusual, it will never be the first,” she noted that just the previous week the European Commission took the unprecedented step of filing infringement actions against 19 Member States for failing to transpose, that is, codify into domestic legislation EU directives on asylum.

Noting that “Hungary is run by extremely clever lawyers” Scheppele said the government of Prime Minister Viktor Orbán “correctly judged that Dublin was insane” and that “we will be in very good company if we develop our own idiosyncratic standards for granting asylum and protection until the EC makes everybody transpose the directives.”

“They can’t go after Hungary for having bizarre asylum law, they have to go after everyone,” she said, adding that “This is not going to be a speedy process” and “it is going to be a very long time before the Europeans pass the laws and begin implementing laws.”  The situation was further complicated by the fact that in Hungary’s case “several different standards are being deliberately confused.”

The Princeton professor said economic migrants, asylum seekers and refugees are distinct determinations.  “Germany has decided that people whose primary residences are in ‘safe countries’ will be presumably turned down for asylum or international protection,” including refugees presently living in the former constituent states of Yugoslavia.

A sleight of hand

In Hungary’s case, the criteria was not residency but whether the refugee had passed through a safe country on his or her way to Hungary. “It will take years to sort this out,” warned Scheppele.  “Until then Hungary will claim to be copying Germany, which they aren’t.”

However, Scheppele noted that certain EU net donor states wish to condition fiscal transfers to net recipient states on the latter meeting their legal obligations.

“Everybody forgets that the EU is already a big transfer union.  Streams of funds cohesion, agriculture, regional programs redistribute money.  The EU is finally starting to wake up to the idea that this is leverage over the poorer states.” And there is “starting to be talk of EU sanctions, which should help bring some EU Member States into line.”

Causes and consequences

Rutgers University professor of political science R. Daniel Kelemen attributed the “incredible uptick this year” in migration to deteriorating conditions in the existing refugee camps in Turkey and elsewhere.

“Just in the past few weeks there may have been a rush to get to Europe because of the twin fact of Merkel’s announcement” that Germany would accept Syrian refugees, and the pending completion of the fence along the Hungarian-Serbian border, as well as an intensification of ISIS’s campaign, said the EU expert.

Crisis, failure, move forward

He said Europe’s refugee crisis was the product of “EU policy being one of a half-built union” and that “we’re seeing the peaking of the crisis that has been mounting for eight years or so.”

“At the core of the EU crisis is the fact that they launched a common currency without other policies, such as coordination of fiscal policies and central banks that you would ordinarily need to support monetary union,” said Kelemen, who likens the EU to a “half-built ship going out to sea—as soon as there is a stormy sea, it gets into trouble.”

He said the EU’s response “has been to add necessary elements “on the fly” and this applied to EU policy on refugees as well as the eurozone crisis and the Greek debt crisis.

“A fundamental unsustainable aspect of the EU is that it has tried to maintain the Schengen system of free internal movement and open internal borders.  But they’ve left control of external borders to national governments, and left them in charge of immigration and asylum policy,” said Kelemen. “Free movement internally is incompatible with national control over borders, asylum, and immigration when there is a crisis.”

Failing forward or backward?

Would the EU fail forward, in other words would it get more control over policing? Would they strengthen common controlled borders?  Would they harmonize common control of immigrant procedures and asylum policy?  Would they set up a system of allocating refugees across the EU?

Calling the Greek and eurozone crisis “interminable” Kelemen said the dual crises had “consumed all of the EU’s political capital” and “taken the wind out of the EU’s sails, be it on backsliding on democracy in Hungary, or the refugee crisis.”

On the subject of the “fundamental incompatibility of open internal borders, Schengen and national control of internal borders, immigration and asylum,” Kelemen said one of two things is going to happen:

“Either it’s going to fail back, and Schengen will die, which is what has happened temporarily with the suspension of Schengen” or it will “fail forward.”

He said the refugee crisis will result in the hardening of the EU’s external borders, but that the question was whether they should harden the borders of the 28 Member States or just Schengen, which is a subset of the EU but which includes Norway and Switzerland.

The Rutgers professor of political science said the European Commission tolerated Hungary building a fence along the border of Serbia, but it strongly objected to Hungary laying out razor wire along the border with Slovenia.  He anticipates the EU playing a larger role in the policing of external borders, as well as playing a larger rule in the resettlement of refugees.

“They could put a lot of stimulus money into Greece, where you could build cities for Syrians,” observed Kelemen. “There could be a permanent system for redistributing refugees, like in the US.”

Political consequences 

Kelemen said the EU had got itself on the “wrong side of two big issues” in terms of populist politics by demanding fiscal discipline on the part of Member States at a time of growing unemployment and poverty, while at the same time requiring them to provide refugees with the kinds of public services and benefits they cannot afford to give their own citizens.

Agreeing with Scheppele that “Dublin is dead” and “has to be replaced,” Kelemen anticipates “greater harmonization” and “more EU control over immigration, asylum and borders.”  However, this would come at a cost.

“They are going to throw a bone to the Right by getting more aggressive on policing the external borders, but will push for more guarantees for respecting basic criteria for humane treatment and processing of claims,” speculated the expert on comparative public policy.

Scheppele agreed that EU pressure to reduce social safety nets was incompatible with moral pressure to give away things to refugees.

“Hungary had to meet draconian conditions imposed on it by the IMF in 2009 just before the refugee crisis,” as a result of which it eliminated the entire social safety net.  “It is extremely difficult to give free housing and medical care to refugees,” said Scheppele.  “It can’t do it politically.  No country could.”

On the subject of the attempts by Orbán to exploit Europe’s refugee crisis for his own political and ideological ends, Scheppele noted that even as he was tearing Europe apart with one hand by unifying right-wing parties, he was promoting EU solidarity with the other through Hungary’s proposal that each Member State contribute part of their GDP towards building refugee camps in Turkey and Lebanon.

“The EU never knows what to do with Viktor Orbán. That is precisely how he will survive,” said Scheppele.

The Brexit threat

Scheppele agreed with Kelemen that it would be good if the EU could give money to the front-line states, calling it a “virtuous circle“ that would help solve the Greek crisis by infusing money into the beleaguered country.  However, she observed that the prospect of the United Kingdom exiting the EU would prevent this from happening.

“Britain wants a smaller, slimmer EU. So long as the UK leaving the EU remains on the agenda, the EU is paralyzed from doing anything that would increase its competencies and solidarity. It’s just bad luck that a solution to these crises is blocked by Brexit [an abbreviation of “British exit”].”

Kelemen noted that the euro remains very popular, even in Greece, but he is concerned about so-called “differential integration” or “variable geometry” whereby certain Member States are allowed to opt out of certain conventions. If the UK stays it may “harden the divisions between those in the core and peripheral members.”

“Do people like Schengen enough and free movement that they’ll do whatever it takes even if it involves increased EU control over border protection?”

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October 5, 2015 3:36 pm

Germany has accepted (and welcomed …) already a lot of refugees after WW2, so I think we will manage.
Of course not everybody is happy – we have our shares of lunatics and people full of fear too,xenophobia is not unknown.
Just a simple example:
In a shed in a village near my home town there are about 400 refugees – now someone told people in the village, that the neighbouring ALDI was to be closed down because the refugees were stealing too much stuff there …
And that rumour went “viral” immediately like many others which are worse and not always easy to disprove!
Of course that was nonsense and the ALDI group immediately reacted:
No, we are not thinking of closing that store!

October 6, 2015 2:26 pm

Curious how Germans would react to Dancygier’s comment that integrating Syrians in German society would be challenging because of language. I can see the point initially but refugees historically do learn the language where they settle down. I can only think she believes the languages of the refugees and host country are of different families making learning perhaps more difficult.

Alex Kuli
Alex Kuli
October 5, 2015 3:51 pm

Is it accurate to say that “a vast majority of Germans support the government’s decision to admit almost a million refugees so far this year and an additional 500,000 over the next four years?”

A poll published Oct. 1 showed that 51 percent of Germans were “afraid” of the refugee situation, while 47 percent said they were not.

This is a major change on the data from just a month ago, when 59 percent said they were not afraid and 38 percent said they were.

It seems that many Germans’ opinions changed as soon as masses of refugees began flowing in from Hungary.

Merkel’s poll numbers have taken a dive as well.

October 5, 2015 4:11 pm

Where should we send the bill for the refugee crisis?

Moscow? Teheran? Damascus?

October 5, 2015 5:20 pm

1600 Pennsylvania Ave ?

Willy-Brandt-Straße 1 ?

October 6, 2015 10:15 am

The Russian – USA interacting was like a ball room dance.
The Russians pulled the USA in the Iraqi dance, and peppered the ground with lots of holes.
The imbecile US presidents guided the troops into each of the traps.
The initial impressions can be that the USA can not dance.
The more skilled observers could explain the missteps, because they saw the Russian traps.
The Russian acts were often disguised as Iranian acts.
The finale is played out now in Syria. The sad part is the fatal breakup according to the Russian plan.

October 5, 2015 6:38 pm

You can start by reading the blog versus randomly typing away. It was discussed that in fact the EU pays 500 euro / refugee being transferred from Hungary. The Ministry communicated that each refugee cost 14 euro a day. A bus transportation (40 seats) cost 1000 euro. You do the math (if you can), and ask Orban Where is the money????
Follow the links:

October 6, 2015 6:33 am

You misunderstood the question, Some1. ER1956 was asking who should be blamed for the refugee crisis itself, and suggested the Russian, Iranian or Syrian governments. Tappanch offered his suggestion that America and/or Germany are to blame.

So, to offer you a bit of your own advice, maybe you should “start by reading the blog versus randomly typing away.”

October 6, 2015 7:58 am

@Nádas I misunderstood and apologized to ER1956. I appreciated your first paragraph. If you are reading my comments, I think the second paragraph was undeserved, so you should start reading the blog too.
Actually, reading back on your previous comments, no kidding….

October 6, 2015 2:28 pm

You too. Seriously.

October 6, 2015 6:38 pm

@ Nadas: I think you missed the the blog for this. Here you go: Of course you are free to amuse yourself. Just go on here if you wish.

October 6, 2015 7:56 am

@ER1956 I misunderstood. My apologies!

October 6, 2015 10:21 am


I love you. All you do, radiates from your nobility.

I am eager to find partners who can point to the direction of evil manipulators who cause most of our miseries.


October 6, 2015 6:27 pm

Thank you and again, my apologies.

October 5, 2015 5:15 pm

Kim Lane Scheppele’s comments were insightful and my reading of them is that moral, or more likely immoral, the Fidesz strategy in relation to evading the EU asylum rules was a winner. Mostly because of how defective the EU rules were and how they did work in the situation of mass migration. Scheppele while highly critical of the Fidesz government correctly gives them credit for their evil cleverness.

I know Hungarians watch Game of Thrones, my cousins do for sure, One of the main characters is Tyrion Lannister who is a dwarf; and his mother died during his birth, for which his father, Tywin Lannister, blames him. While not physically powerful, Tyrion has a cunning mind and often uses to his advantage the fact that others constantly underestimate him. In the European theater the power players in the EU too often treat Orban the same wayTyrion is treated and the results are often the same as in the Game of Thrones.

October 6, 2015 6:37 am

Spoiler alert: Tyrion killed Tywin while he was sitting on the toilet in the final episode of the 4th season. No kidding.

October 6, 2015 11:38 am

I saw that scene …
A bit OT:
My Hungarian family also really likes GoT – I find it a bit strange, too much brutality, but GRRM says life was like that in the Middle Ages …
But my wife also likes classic and modern Science Fiction Asimov, Vonnegut, Douglas Adams to name a few authors) – that compensates for the whole thing …

October 6, 2015 5:17 pm


Sounds like thieving from Pulp Fiction…

Moshe Akiva
Moshe Akiva
October 6, 2015 12:50 am

I wonder if the public opinion poll mentioned at the beginning of this article polled the opinion of ethnic Germans as well, or only Turks living in Germany?

October 6, 2015 8:25 am

Two things.
Hungarian rail is refusing to sell tickets to Zagreb, saying there are no trains going there now because of the refugee crisis.

Former Pres. Árpád Göncz has died.

October 6, 2015 9:42 am

Re: Prof Schepple comment that the government is ‘run by lawyers’

Here’s Lincoln’s advice to young lawyers:

“If in your own judgment you cannot be an honest lawyer,” he wrote, “resolve to be honest without being a lawyer. Choose some other occupation, rather than one in the choosing of which you do, in advance, consent to be a knave.”

In the case of Magyar ‘lawyering’ with the EU on the refugee crisis it doesn’t look like ‘dishonesty’ was prevalent. It was more like gamesmanship as noted. Always a competition to eke out advantage.

Of course not wrong but nevertheless it had its use in other areas namely in the construction of the Constitution. And the end product on that tells a tale of all that ‘lawyerly’ work. Sometimes one has to wonder if some are in the right occupation.

October 6, 2015 10:00 am

“Former Pres. Árpád Göncz has died.”

To me he seemed to be the only honest and lovable Hungarian politician in the 20th century. Maybe he wasn’t even a politician, just a very nice man.

R. I. P.

October 6, 2015 10:24 am

“Former Pres. Árpád Göncz has died.”

An exceptionally decent human being.

The proud product of all dedicated good old Hungarian parents and teachers.

October 6, 2015 11:36 am
Despite its title I find little discussion in today’s post about the causes of what is called the migration crisis. I am afraid that it is not a crisis. A crisis has an end. The Syrian civil war may come to an end but other civil wars may flare up, and migrations for many other reasons than civil war, e.g. poverty, will continue to increase rapidly. The surge caused by the Syrian civil war is but a fluctuation. Those who think of the present situation as a crisis that will pass seem naive. The remedies they propose will have no positive effects. Worst of all, sending money to build and run refugee camps for Syrian refugees in Turkey or other places will solve nothing. It will just create new versions of the Palestinian refugee camps. Hopeless breeding places for terrorists. Walling in Europe cannot be done efficiently. The pressure on the wall will be so great that its upkeep and policing will swallow all resources. A realistic assessment of the causes of the accelerating migration is neccessary in order to find rational ways to react. In my opinion there are three main factors contributing to the upsurge in the number… Read more »
October 6, 2015 2:13 pm

Re: ‘The surge caused by the Syrian civil war is but a fluctuation’

Could that be actually what it is? Right now we can see I think that foreign policy in the ME as conducted by certain states is based and driven on ‘security’. The kettle’s starting to boil over there. It is a problem that will be with us for awhile.

Going to be a long while before migrants get security. Plenty of ways to get into the crossfire. Vlad’s got some of the airspace now causing a bit of a ruckus and now wants to put ‘volunteers’ in on the Syrian ground. Now there’s a fellow who starts ‘fluctuations’ to get his ‘security’. This is a man who does not dilly-dally. It’s the Russian way.

Will be fascinating to see how the already devastated Syrian population and refugees make out in all the upheaval. They as well as nation-states today want ‘security’. Looks to be the global mantra of the 21st century. We are now in a very dangerous age.

October 6, 2015 7:17 pm

Assad Empire:
History of velvet and not so velvet oppression.
Participant to all terror in Mideast and outside.
Allied with the two major tyrannies, Russia and Iran.
The uprising failed, Iranian military defended the regime.
Displacement of millions. Death of 200,000+

Deafening silence from the West.

To divert attention from Syria, pressed refugees in flight towards Europe.

October 7, 2015 4:35 am

ER56 you wrote “Deafening silence from the West.”
Total b.s. You are apparently not reading papers outside Hungary.
There has been a huge discussion on all that in “the West” – if by the West you mean the US, Britain, Canada, France, Ireland, Germany and Scandinavian countries (which are not united, incidentally – there is no such unified place as “the West”).

October 8, 2015 12:48 pm

Journalists may talk.
Governments are silent. Planned subversion, or criminal incompetence?
The task is to nurture a new civil society building in Iraq, Syria, Iran, Russia, Palestine, Hungary.
All national elite must reorganize itself, and reform the reformable leaders, while expel the fatally corrupted individuals.

October 6, 2015 3:52 pm
The Guardian website this evening has an article with the following quotes from Tony Blair, ex-UK prime minister: “The ideology which drives Islamic extremists has significant support from Muslims around the world”, Tony Blair has warned. Tony Blair said millions of children around the world are ‘taught a view of the world and of their religion which is narrow-minded, prejudicial and … dangerous’. Such quotes do little to re-assure European citizens concerned with what many of them see as an aspect of the recent influx of migrants that has been but little addressed, namely the longer-term changes on European societies caused by many new Islamist residents – briefly expressed as the “islamisation” of those societies. Antal Rogan probably had such fears when he reportedly expressed the view that he did not want his grand-children growing up in the United European Caliphate. Crudely put but perhaps there is an attitude of “political correctness” that has prevented a wider discussion of this aspect but I suspect that many people do have genuine concerns that ought properly to be addressed. They are concerns that I share and that were not considered in the discussion reprinted in today’s Hungarian Spectrum blog. One might think… Read more »
October 6, 2015 5:12 pm
I guess the problem much wider and deeper than the question of religious integration. In my opinion people tend to lean more to the extreme when there isn’t much else to live for. Without the possibility for decent living and (more or less) clear future perspectives the religious and/or cultural differences becoming much more significant. Frustrated people turns violent much easier, and when you look at the second generation immigrants – who usually exist in some kind of “identity no mans land” anyway – you’ll see the potential victim of a religious manipulator right away. They are the ones who no longer has the cultural background of their parents, often totally illiterate on their original language, even quite poorly on the ‘new’ language too. Due to lack of education they have no jobs, or not with the income what their desired lifestyle would require, while they living in ‘rich, Western society’. The frustration inevitable, and from here on they’ll more likely listen to anyone with a “solution”… Anyway, this is once again only the problem – and I don’t have a solution what could work straight out of the box. Needs quite an effort, willingness and money to be able… Read more »
October 7, 2015 2:52 am

” if there is a will, there’s a way.”
That’s the spirit!
In Germany we have not only engineers, doctors, craftsmen – you name it – whose parents were poor immigrants, we even have politicians with Turkish or Syrian roots.
So there is hope – maybe even for Hungary, though as we’ve found out, the number of immigrants is and will stay really low …
This reminds me again of a story which I may have written about before:
When the people of Switzerland had to decide about more or less immigration, the highest percentage of “no” votes came from Appenzell – where you don’t see any immigrants at all …
Those people probably hadn’t had contact with an immigrant in all their life – reminds me of the Hungarian fear of the Piréz …

October 7, 2015 1:17 pm

I’m only hoping – so far I haven’t heard of any action, project or programme aiming for handle the problem outlined above. It has much to do with economy, but even with the resources by hand it needs to be addressed properly.
And it should be, otherwise we’ll end up “supporting” the ISIS – by providing endless supply of frustrated “westerners” – indirectly, mind you, but still. The group of “young adults with foreign origin” looks pretty much abandoned by all the societies what I know.

October 6, 2015 10:49 pm

Re: ‘How accepting are these societies likely to be regarding cultural and/or religious practices imported from the previous home countries of the immigrants?

You know on that I’d suggest various European societies can easily test that out by looking at the extent of reactionaries within the environment. Looks pretty active in some. And they are the ‘rub’.

I’d think if they are constantly vociferous in rejecting and battling newcomers and their cultural baggage well those societies are moving to a big bang-up unless their alleged democracies can handle the change through the work of its institutions. Hard work indeed lays ahead on that.

I think we can see why Vlad and others of his political persuasion detest democracy….it’s too damned complicated and exhausting to work in. Just like the salt mines so just say ‘nyet’ and bang the gavel.

October 6, 2015 6:43 pm

A very interesting things is to read the comments on the Budapest Beacon’s website. It truly gives a nice little peek into the psyche of some Hungarians.Well, we see them here too. I must say Richard Field (or whoever is the content manager) does an excellent job!