György Matolcsy, the engine of the Hungarian economy, has his admirers

The first quarter year-over-year 0.5% GDP growth apparently shocked Viktor Orbán. He immediately convened an extraordinary cabinet meeting to discuss the situation, which put Hungary among the worst performing countries in the European Union. Later government communication tried to calm nerves by denying Orbán’s panicky response to the bad economic news, but the meeting definitely took place.

It is possible that the news was a surprise to Viktor Orbán, but people familiar with recent economic trends should have been prepared for slower growth than projected. In the last quarter of 2015 industrial growth was 2.4% lower than a year before, and in the first three months of 2016 the numbers were even worse: 4.5% lower than the same time in 2015. According to forecasters, the dismal economic growth just announced is most likely not a fluke. Analysts predict similar figures for the second quarter of the year as well. One of the problems is that 25% of the Hungarian GDP comes from conventional auto manufacturing, which is shrinking due to the emergence of electric cars. This means a 6% reduction in production at Audi and Mercedes Benz, which will perpetuate the present situation. According to government estimates, the Hungarian economy is supposed to grow by 1.7% this year, which is unlikely. High officials of the Hungarian National Bank, however, are even more optimistic. They are dreaming of 3% GDP growth for 2016. Some of the data actually point to a possible recession.

This news couldn’t have come at a worse time. The unorthodox economic policy introduced by György Matolcsy as minister of the economy (2010-2013) seems to be crumbling just when the same Matolcsy, as chairman of the Hungarian National Bank, is in serious political trouble due to his handling of the reserves of Hungary’s central bank. To put it in the starkest terms, Matolcsy in great secret siphoned off about one billion dollars from money accrued as a result of the weakening Hungarian forint and put it into private foundations.

Common wisdom holds that the Hungarian people are so inured to the widespread corruption in the country that they cannot be aroused by any scandal, no matter how large. The latest poll by the Publicus Institute, however, indicates that the Matolcsy case is an exception to the rule. Another tenet of conventional wisdom is that Hungarians are terribly under-informed. Most of them have no understanding of current political events. Well, in the case of Matolcsy’s foundations this notion also turned out to be false. Two-thirds of the people had heard about the scandal, and of those who were familiar with the case 65% considered Matolcsy’s “unorthodox” handling of the central bank’s money outrageous while 58% thought that the bank chairman should resign. Moreover, and this is bad news for Viktor Orbán, 58% of those questioned considered the government responsible for the scandal around Matolcsy’s foundations and only 17% blamed Matolcsy alone.

Given the delicate situation in which Matolcsy and the Hungarian government have found themselves, the last thing they needed was the interview Csaba Lentner gave to 168 Óra, a weekly. Lentner is currently a professor of economics at the Nemzeti Közszolgálati Egyetem (National Civil Service University), a creation of the Orbán government. Lentner had a “colorful” political career, starting off as an economic adviser to the Smallholders’ Party’s parliamentary delegation but in 1997 becoming one of the top officials of the anti-Semitic MIÉP, the creation of István Csurka, a writer and playwright of extremist views. Between 1998 and 2002 he was a MIÉP member of parliament. In 2004 he switched over to Fidesz. As he said in the interview, he is a slow maturing type. Since then he has been serving Fidesz as an expert on economic matters.

What does Lentner have to do with Matolcsy? Plenty. Believe it or not, our diligent bank chairman in his spare time is writing a Ph.D. dissertation. And who is his adviser? None other than Csaba Lentner. But that’s not all. Lentner is also a member of the board of one of the foundations György Matolcsy created. So corrupt and disgusting, but obviously, as it was evident from Lentner’s interview, the two men find the arrangement perfectly normal and acceptable. Válasz, a right-wing publication, considered the interview a gift to the opposition because Lentner’s profuse praise for the chairman was embarrassing for Matolcsy himself.

Lentner on the cover of the right-wing Demokrata "We don't give up the war of independence

Lentner on the cover of the right-wing Demokrata
“We can’t give up the war of independence”

From the interview we learn that the current economic policy of the country is still in the hands of Matolcsy, who as bank chairman is supposed to be concerned only with monetary policy, i.e. money supply, interest rates. In Lentner’s opinion Mihály Varga’s ministry of national economy, which is supposed to be in charge of the government’s fiscal policy, is too slow and ineffectual. “The real economic decisions are made in the National Bank.” Because of the “weakness” of Varga’s ministry it was the National Bank that made the 3% economic growth in 2014 possible by giving three trillion forints for low-interest loans and keeping interest rates low overall. Since 2013, when Matolcsy took over the chairmanship of the bank, “a monetary regime change has taken place.” Matolcsy has become “the engine of the national economy.” In Lentner’s mind Matolcsy is a true genius. It is the “intellectual munition he carries in his head that moves the [Hungarian] GDP.”

Those who are against Matolcsy are traitors to the cause of Fidesz and the Orbán government. Matolcsy’s continued work at the head of the National Bank is the guarantee of Fidesz winning the 2018 national elections. Lentner is certain that in the next two years Hungary’s economic growth will be spectacular. Obviously, the dismal numbers of late make no difference as far as he is concerned.

For Lentner, the members of the Constitutional Court who found Matolcsy’s foundations unconstitutional are traitors who “stabbed him in the back.” Matolcsy has achieved a series of great successes, or, as he put it, he carried out “six years of a victorious military campaign in which we win battle after battle. Matolcsy is the alpha and the omega of the 2018 elections.” He deserves a public statue to demonstrate the outstanding service he has rendered to his country. One could ask why a man of such outstanding mental qualities needs a Ph.D. The answer: “in order for him to make his name great for many centuries,” for which it is necessary “to organize the means of non-conventional economic policy into a scientific system.” I’m so glad that with Csaba Lentner’s guidance this great man will formulate a revolutionary economic theory that will change the face of the world.

I found an article on Jobbik’s internet news site called Alfahír. I usually view their news items with suspicion, but this story about Matolcsy sounds plausible. Matolcsy was named political undersecretary in József Antall’s government on May 24, 1990, but a few months later he left the prime minister’s office by mutual agreement. The likely reason for his sudden departure was the revelation by a member of parliament on October 30, 1990 that Matolcsy was involved in the shady privatization of 90 restaurants owned by the state. It looks as if József Antall had no problem firing someone whom he found to be involved in unethical business ventures. If the suspicion about Matolcsy’s sudden departure from the prime minister’s office is well founded, Matolcsy’s not always straight business dealings are not of recent vintage.

May 29,2016
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Joshua
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Unrelated to this latest blog post – has anyone heard about O.V.’s newest slogan? “Hungary is for Hungarians” ? As if all of my Hungarian friends who are Jewish didn’t already have lots of reasons for emigrating – – – this is kind of the final nail in the coffin. I appreciate all the work you do Ms. Balogh, but Hungary truly does seem like a lost cause. I’m amazed the EU hasn’t booted them out long ago.

Latefor
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What are you saying? As far as I know, Hungarian Jews do consider themselves Hungarian.

petofi
Guest

No, Lateygodiva, Hungarian jews consider themselves…Jews.

Latefor
Guest

@Petofi –
I would love to hear the opinion of the leaders of the Hungarian Jewish Community on this. As far as I know, Hungarian Jews consider themselves Hungarian Jews. NOT Polish Jews or etc. etc.

petofi
Guest

Jews learned their lesson on nationality in Germany, pre-warII: the German jews thought themselves ‘protected’by the civility of German kultur. And they weren’t.

As for ‘Polish’jews, what jew would ever trout out his Polishness after the wild abandon with which the Poles murdered returning
jews after the war? Check the number of jews in Poland today and you’d swear that they were all on birth control…

Guest
@petofi Today 2:54 am The difficulty is that it is not really possible to generalize about the remnant Jewry in Hungary. Most persons who are one way or another of Jewish descent in contemporary Hungary prefer to hide their origins and just quietly fade into the non-Jewish mainstream through intermarriage over as many generations as it takes to rid themselves of the burden of Jewishness. These mostly intermarried and totally non-religious people identify themselves first, second and third as Hungarians, and only incidentally, if ever, and as a distant last, as Jews. They are overwhelmingly descendants of Jews who opted to stay in Hungary after the Holocaust in the hope and under the delusion that national and international communism would eliminate the scourge of antisemitism, and many built themselves brilliant careers under the protection of the communist system. They, their children and grand children are the backbone of middle class left-liberalism in Hungary today, though there is no doubt that there is a fair sprinkling of Fidesz supporters among them too. Religious Jews on the other hand were a tiny minority mostly among the older generation of survivors, and they still are a small minority of perhaps less than 10%… Read more »
Guest
@petofi Today 2:54 am The difficulty is that it is not really possible to generalize about the remnant Jewry in Hungary. Most persons who are one way or another of Jewish descent in contemporary Hungary prefer to hide their origins and just quietly fade into the non-Jewish mainstream through intermarriage over as many generations as it takes to rid themselves of the burden of Jewishness. These mostly intermarried and totally non-religious people identify themselves first, second and third as Hungarians, and only incidentally, if ever, and as a distant last, as Jews. They are overwhelmingly descendants of Jews who opted to stay in Hungary after the Holocaust in the hope and under the delusion that national and international communism would eliminate the scourge of antisemitism, and many built themselves brilliant careers under the protection of the communist system. They, their children and grand children are the backbone of middle class left-liberalism in Hungary today, though there is no doubt that there is a fair sprinkling of Fidesz supporters among them too. Religious Jews on the other hand were a tiny minority mostly among the older generation of survivors, and they still are a small minority of perhaps less than 10%… Read more »
Guest

No idea why this post was duplicated. The mysteries of WordPress . . .

Guest

And Hungarians do consider them what?

I already tried to link to a picture that is going around facebook which shows a pregnant woman with three slogans in Hungarian which I’ll translate:
Hungary for Hungarians!
Gypsies to India!
Jews to Israel!

Have you seen that too and what do you think of it?

Latefor
Guest

@wolfi
Those who feel Hungarian should stay and those who don’t, should leave. Period. After all, how can you build the future of the country with those, whose hearts are full of hate? You can only create a better society if you work together, not against each other. Treat everybody with respect. I do not belive that provocations will bring good results. It will only result in more KH AOS.

Guest

Why don’t you preach to those lunatics who post pictures like that on facebook?
And to those who display maps of “Greater Hungary”?
Maybe because you belong to these groups yourself?
Trying again to copy that infamous picture – it should work if you manually combine the two parts of the url – but you’ve been warned:
comment image ?oh=e29b0a9dcc246a2f58764a6e6fe30b4f&oe=57CAA73D

Latefor
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@wolfi
There are “lunatics” and provocators on both sides of the fence.
“It takes two to tango”.

I’d hate to be the leader of Hungary! I often wonder how strong Orban is. It’s a miracle that he hasn’t cracked up yet . . .to lead the country under this kind of outside/inside pressure?
According to online sources, there are serious problems:
Jews vs Christians
Christians vs Jews
Roma vs Hungarians
Hungarians vs Roma
and
NOW, add a few millions of refugees / migrants (from another culture) to this. And what will you get?

K H A O S

Guest

You really are a lunatic!
“Millions of refugees” in Hungary? A few thousand – most of which will move on (some have already) to flee this unfriendly or rather xenophobic country.
And O is at least partially responsible for firing up the xenophobia – are you too stupid to see that?

Latefor
Guest

Wolfie – R E L A X
Do I have too much style for you to handle? Please try at least to communicate without personal attacks.

Guest

As illiterate as ever – with as impoverished ideas as ever.

‘Khaos’ is spelt chaos.

Orban will never crack up – he’s robbing Hungary blind with his thievery – he’s eyes are filled with gratuitous greed.

It’s just Hungary and ignorant you that don’t see it.

petofi
Guest

As I’ve maintained about Hungarians all along: feed then Nationalism, and Exenophobia…sprinkle liberally with doses of Anti-Semitism….and Hungarians will happily follow to the edge of the disastrous cliff of national bankruptcy.

petofi
Guest

Hungarian hearts are full of trickery: their specialty–that of Hungarians–is back-stabbing…

Member

I do not often agree with you Latefor, but I do agree with you this time. The jews in Hungary I know do consider themselves Hungarian. This includes many of my friends who I used to attend the Jozsef korut Synagogue with. At the same time they are proud to be of Jewish descent, and as it is obvious that they are Hungarian, they do call themselves Jewish in Hungary.

Rozsi
Guest

I am not in a position to agree or disagree with Latefor because I don’t know the situation in Hungary. However, why is this person attacked for opinions that make perfect sense?

“You can only create a better society if you work together, not against each other. Treat everybody with respect. I do not belive that provocations will bring good results. It will only result in more KH AOS.”

A spelling error does not negate the spirit of the posting nor does it make the writer a lunatic.

Guest

I’m still waiting for a comment from latefor (who has written rather abominable stuff here btw …) on that link or at least on the text there if she can’t find/open the link.

And the sentence you quoted – would you have applied that too to the German Jews under Hitler e g? Or to the Armenians in Turkey? Or the Blacks in the Southern USA a hundred years ago?

PS:
Here’s the text without the picture – sorry for bringing up kuruc, we all know what kind of stuff they publish:
https://kuruc.info/r/22/91772/

Guest

Rozsi?

Previous Latefor quotes:

Every morning I read the Hungarian Spectrum, the kuruc-info etc.

asked you specifically to stop playing with your you -know- what, as it can cause serious blindness

haHve you ever been in bed with a flea?
and why don’t you stop playing with your thingilingi?There is a huge possibility that doing it long enough, it may cause you blindness.

Always the stronger dog f<**s!

maybe it’s time for some western dogs to take a rest from the humping or a nice German Shepherd could bite of his thingilingi.
systematic sh#t stirring.

Ok. F@#k it. I don’t care anymore. I

Latefor
Guest

Charlie – as you can see, I’ve left a spelling mistake there for you in order to make your life fulfilled. Knock yourself out!

Rozsi
Guest

I was not familiar with your previous Latefor quotes but if Latefor wrote that Elvis was still alive , I would still agree with the statement I referred to and save my attacks for the paragraphs you mentioned.

Guest

Where did anyone say they disagreed with her?

Latefor
Guest

@Rozsi,
The above quotes are taken out of context. They were part of my posts, my REACTION to endless, ongoing provocations by some of the commentators on this blog. (Could it be possible that they might have some problems with their thingilingi? There must be a reason for keep quoting these brainy comments from me. One has to wonder about all the possibilities.)
According to them:
“Hungarians are genetically inferior morons”
“Useless scumbags”
“Bogatyas peasants”
“backstabbing people” etc. etc.

The LATEST attack:
my favorite writer: Istvan Fekete!
It’s about time time for Orban to introduce anti-Hungarian laws. ENOUGH is ENOUGH!

Member

Eva, please can you remove marketing materials from trolls? It has been very obvious that Latefor only sticks around to sell whatever she needs to sell. She has no real interest in anything else. I am wondering of her troll like behaviour on some subjects should be contributed to the “any kind of publicity worth it” phenomena. If we allow her to advertise, I will let others to know that they can come her and put on their marketing materials. Why not some direct link to Matolcsy’s book?

Guest

When did I state that a spelling error defines a ‘lunatic ‘?

Rozsi
Guest

You mentioned some previous comments by the same person that sound objectionable, but they were not relevant to the comment that I happened to agree with.

Someone else pointed out the typo or spelling error regarding the word “Chaos” which was also irrelevant to the message about unity and respecting each other.

Latefor
Guest

Thank you, Rozsi!

Latefor
Guest

Thank you, Some!

Joshua
Guest

The point is not whether Hungarian Jews (or Jewish Hungarians) consider themselves Hungarian or not. The point is that non-Jewish Hungarians and the Hungarian government/establishment do not consider Jews (Hungarian or otherwise) as ‘Hungarian’. Regardless of how one feels about oneself or wishes it could be, a Jewish person in Hungary – no matter how many generations her family has been living in Hungary and speaking the language as a mother tongue) is not really considered Hungarian. That is messed up. Just another expression of the pathetic xenophobia and anti-semitism that is rampant in what was once a potentially great and pluralistic country.

Member

What exactly is a Hungarian? Of the “Hungarian martyrs of Arad”, only 2 were “Hungarian”. The rest have German, Slovakian, Serb, Armenian, Austrian and Turkish origins or ties. We know many people in Hungary with the names Toth, Nemet, Torok and so on. Orban himself is quarter Roma.

webber
Guest

It’s an old slogan – it’s not new at all.

petofi
Guest

Trump and the bikers met around the Lincoln Memorial.
In the background, Lincoln got up from his seat and was seen departing in a fit of disgust.

Guest

I saw him too. Old Abe contributed much in blood, sweat and tears to move along the future of the country. Looking at the cult of Donny, he had to lament we’re ‘back to the future’ once again… and it’s the Cretaceous amid all the extinctions as well. TRex personified. Dinosaurs have come alive…;-)…

nwo
Guest

Eva. One point on which I would disagree. The level of knowledge and understanding about the MNB/”private foundation” scandal is still very low in the country. I know a number of people (my secretary in-laws etc.) who either were not aware of the details or found it too confusing to really focus on the essential points. These are not “intellectuals”, but they are all solidly middle class. Obviously, the local press hardly covers the story, but in additon, the story is “too large” for people to get their minds around (unlike some shabby politician getting a bribe in a paper bag for a couple of million). I am gratified that >60% of people say Matolcsy should go, but I am still a bit shocked that there are not demonstrations daily in front of the MNB. Again, the opposition is AWOL. I cannot imagine anything other than the key figures in MSZP have been co-opted within the the Government’s world of corruption.

dottore
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NWO: I absolutely agree with you. Significant portion of the leaders of the opposition parties are coopted. One just has to imagine what Fidesz would do in a similar situation, that is if MSZP was looting the MNB to the tune of a billion euros, and counting. I mean let’s remember what Fidesz did with Andras Simor. SImor was relentlessly attacked day bay day as an “offshore knight” (even if unsuccessful and SImor remained). And how ironic this “offshore knight” term is when Antal Rogan et al are also looting the tax payers to the tune of EUR 500m with the immigration bond racket via offshore companies. I’m sure Fidesz would have literally invaded the MNB building with a 100,000 strong army of bussed Fidesz activists (supported by the state security factions working directly for Fidesz). They did that with the TV headquarters and they sure would’ve done it with MNB. And I agree that most people have no idea about these foundations, it’s a way too complex issue even if they heard about it, but most just haven’t. The point is: the opposition is lazy and coopted. No surprise that top Fideszniks aren’t worried. They have the inside info… Read more »
tappanch
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Orban’s other friend, Meszaros of yesterday’s blog received a hotel in Mátrafüred owned by the fraudrupt [fraudulently bankrupt] Quaestor before the civil proceedings had finished against the company !

He [Orban] is eyeing 19 hotels owned by Hunguest.

http://www.heol.hu/heves/kozelet/tobb-hotel-is-meszarose-lehet-667367
http://24.hu/fn/gazdasag/2016/05/05/meszaros-erdekeltsege-uzemelteti-a-quaestor-egyik-szallodajat/

Observer
Guest

And guess which daddy’s girl will eventually get these hotels somehow ?
(no prizes for the correct answers)

Tamas Old
Guest

FYI Lentner Csaba is a well-regarded and even beloved professor at the National Public Service University, educating among others the future state security officials.

By the way said Hungarian spies are executing a complex operation against George Soros with help from the more experienced Russian colleagues, one supposes..

http://nol.hu/belfold/elmebeteg-huzasra-keszul-az-orban-kormany-sorossal-szemben-1617261

Observer
Guest

They are all “well-regarded and even beloved” geniuses in every field, e.g. the beloved Elena Ceausescu was an academic, Matolcsy is a genius, and pigs do fly in Orbanistan.

Guest

London Calling!

Orban:

“Hungary is performing better.” Orban’s delusional posters all over Hungary

“Hungary will be the engine that will drive the EU out of recession” Orban 2013

“Fidesz had pledged in 2010 to create one million new jobs in the next ten years, so far only 350,000 jobs have been created and half of them are fostered jobs.” 2014

(Perhaps Tappanch can let us know how many the KSH ‘claim’ to have been created in 2016?)

Eva:

The first quarter year-over-year 0.5% GDP growth apparently shocked Viktor Orbán.

Trolls:

Orban is winning. Orban will always win. No shit. Left Liberals are losers and have no idea.

Charlie:

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Haaaaaaaa. STOPPPP!!!!!……. Haaaaaaaaaaaàaaàaaa…….

tappanch
Guest

Who knows the real number? Perhaps Orban does, I do not.

Take the baseline, for instance, the employment 6 years ago
Employed, according to KSH:
version A: 2010. 1st quarter 3.7193 million
version B: 2010. 1st quarter 3.6787 million

version A: data that was downloaded three years ago, 3 years after the referred period.
version B: data that can be found on the official website right now.

Compare it with the official data for the 1st quarter of 2016: 4.2622

The difference is almost 600 thousand in 6 years, Orban’s slogan number.

BUT: this official number includes 200+ thousand “fostered” workers and 100+ thousand people who actually work abroad.

I also calculated that 36.6% [213.3/583.5 ] of the 6-year employment increase comes from people over 55 years.

tappanch
Guest

Correction: employment number = employed + self-employed + ???

Guest

I can see that if they understate (fiddle) 2010′ s figures it makes later figures more attractive!

I also see the stats are meaningless – with a margin of error of give or take ……… er…….. er 1 million!

“Therefore I’ve created about 1 million jobs”!!!

In any decent country the bean counters (like the ONS) would be able to show a breakdown of the sectors where the jobs have been created. Not in Orbandystopia.

And to think the EU bases grant monies on KSH’s stats!

Thanks for the figures.

Observer
Guest
“The real economic decisions are made in the National Bank.” Because of the “weakness” of Varga’s ministry ..” The short quotations above are basically economic nonsense and shallow lies. The Orban regime took a leap with the conversion of the CHF and EUR at the expense of the HNB forex reserves. This can be called unorthodox solution, but in a liquidity flush markets the jury is still out on the medium term results. Low interest rates are a world economy condition, nothing to do with HNB or Matolcsy. The rest of the economic “policy” was primarily redistribution by decree of the larger players’ profits by way of various “crisis”, “specia, “provisional” etc. taxes. Nothing new in the “policy” here – the communist/socialists regimes practiced a lot of this and for much longer, with well-known results. The main factor making this economic opportunism possible was the EU cohesion and agricultural support money, with those diminishing, Hungary is now getting into the second stage – the stage of reckoning (see Q1 2016 – no EU no growth) Otherwise Matolcsy has indeed become an engine, another one in the system of total corruption in the orban mafia state. Re: Lentner, I wouldn’t even… Read more »
Guest

Re: Lentner: ‘We can’t give up the war of independence’

If there were aspects say of valor, bravery and courage in the face of fighting for bona fide ‘independence’ there would be something to be said for the line. But it would appear that the exhortation is to simply continue all systems go in propping up the FM&O ( Fidesz, Matolcsy, Orban) Piggly Wiggly Bank of Magyarorszag.

tappanch
Guest

Orban government talks about independence war, but it has received
9.223 TRILLION forints from the European Union in the 2007-2013 cycle, through December 31.

The Hungarian debt would have been 36% higher without this help.

The new GINOP program by the EU offers interest-free credit for small enterprises until the money (44 billion) lasts .

Although the money comes from the EU, the program is administered by the Hungarian government.

file:///C:/_Downloads/_Sources%20Hungary%202015-10-05/_Economy/GINOP%20credit/1.htm

Guest

Re: 9.2 TRILLION forints

Amazing how much greasy zsir comes with all that EU ‘kenyer’. The EU must be dolts to have it smeared back in their faces.

tappanch
Guest
tappanch
Guest

Moody likes the decreasing unemployment in Hungary.

[watch out Moody: the bookkeeping, the official statistics is VERY creative, i.e. “unorthodox”]

http://www.portfolio.hu/finanszirozas/bankok/tetszik_a_moodys-nak_ami_magyarorszagon_megy.5.232538.html

They seem to upgrade Hungary on July 8, which will lift the junk status of the Hungarian state bonds, which in turn strengthens the forint, at least temporarily.

http://www.portfolio.hu/deviza_kotveny/allampapirpiac/nyarra_megint_fejfajast_okozhat_matolcsyeknak_a_tul_eros_forint.1.232530.html

see my detailed criticism of the Fitch upgrade report (including an actual numerical error they made) on May 20, 8:26 PM.

mudi
Guest

Matolcsy and Orban are much smarter than these Moody’s people, my dear tappancs.

They always defeat these clueless American idiots. Hungary will soon be upgraded and then Matolcsy will be vindicated. He always delivers.

he whole of the EU envies Hungary, only liberals say there is any problem. People are busy working, anybody who wants to work can get a job.

People are happy and luckily don’t have time to deal with liberal bullshit. They want a quiet life and shop in the malls, buy another car and go on a nice holiday.

If they get that they will vote for Fidesz since it is the only party that cares about the people. People are fed up with liberals who are obsessed with marginal issues like gay marriage and antisemitism. They will never vote for liberals in a real elections. Luckily for Fidesz which is prepared for any and all possibilities there is a huge reserve of conservative voters in Erdély, who can’t be mislead by leftist propaganda. In Erdély they still know whom they can trust (hint: not the liberals). Tappancs, never trust foreign experts such as Moody’s.

Guest

People are happy … shop in the malls, buy another car and go on a nice holiday.

All this on 150 000 HUF a month?

You are either crazy – or just a troll (or both) …

The people I know here like most of our neighbours are working hard in two jobs often and still no holiday for them!

PS:
Please stop this crazy repetition of M delivers, O always wins etc – it’s really idiotic and nobody here believes you!

Member

“crazy – or just a troll” troll

Guest

If you look at my post above I thought I’d saved mudi the trouble! Under ‘trolls’.

However it’s not in my creative scope to imagine the fiction that they want a quiet life and shop in the malls, buy another car and go on a nice holiday!!!

What planet did you say he/she was on?

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Haaaaaaaa. STOPPPP!!!!!……. Haaaaaaaaaaaàaaàaaa…….

Guest

Fidesz the only party that cares for people?

Is this a typo surely it should be ‘shafting the people’?

Oh no…… here I go again!

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Haaaaaaaa. STOPPPP!!!!!……. Haaaaaaaaaaaàaaàaaa…….

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