The only good answer to Orbán’s referendum is a boycott

Ever since mid-July, if not earlier, a fierce debate has been going on about the best strategy for voters of left-of-center parties to follow at the forthcoming referendum. The question that will face Hungarian voters on October 2 will be: “Do you want the European Union, without the consent of Parliament, to order the compulsory settlement of non-Hungarian citizens in Hungary?” The government is campaigning for, and expects, an overwhelming “no” vote.

Fidesz voters are an obedient lot who will follow the instructions from the party chief and prime minister, Viktor Orbán. Jobbik voters are perhaps a little less enthusiastic, but the majority of them will still vote “no.” On the other side, as usual, there is a lot of confusion.

Since the referendum is such a hot topic in Hungary, it’s not surprising that three separate public opinion polls have been taken in the last three weeks trying to predict its outcome. All three come to more or less the same conclusion: there is a good likelihood that the referendum will be valid and that the question will fail (where failure is the desired result from the government’s perspective). That is, at least 50% plus 1 of all eligible voters will vote and more than 50% of all votes will be “nays.”

No one has ever doubted that the referendum question would fail given the tremendous public rejection of the refugees, but at least at the beginning there were doubts about the validity of the referendum. Analysts doubted that half of the adult people would bother to vote on a referendum question which most legal scholars consider outright unconstitutional. If Viktor Orbán hadn’t eliminated all the checks and balances from the political system, this referendum couldn’t even have taken place. It would have been scotched already by the National Election Commission because there are just too many things wrong with the question. Starting with the obvious, the European Union cannot make any binding decisions without the consent of the European Council, which is made up of the prime ministers of the 28 member states, which naturally includes Viktor Orbán. Equally obvious is that Hungary, when it joined the European Union, gave up part of its national sovereignty and therefore will be obliged, if a joint decision is reached, to take some refugees. Finally, the parliament doesn’t have a central part to play in the Hungarian government’s dealings with the European Union. For example, Viktor Orbán doesn’t have to consult parliament before he travels to Brussels to vote on an EU decision. Conversely, laws enacted in national parliaments have no direct effect on the workings of the European Union. Admittedly, the Hungarian government could enact a law that would tie the hands of the prime minister by insisting on a parliamentary mandate, but this would be a law that no prime minister would ever want. In brief, perhaps more than four million Hungarians will vote on a structurally meaningless referendum question.

The question may have no binding consequences, but it has huge political value for Fidesz. The liberal-socialist side of the Hungarian political spectrum has been struggling to formulate a cohesive response. The basic question is whether its followers should participate in the referendum. Ferenc Gyurcsány’s Demokratikus Koalíció (DK) from the start has championed for a boycott with the slogan “Stay Home, Stay in Europe!” After some hesitation MSZP followed, but instead of using the word “boycott” they chose “abstention,” apparently because the party is planning to send observers to the polling places. A fine and, in my opinion, needless distinction that only confuses the would-be boycotters. The two smaller parties, Együtt and PM, are also for a boycott. LMP is offering no guidance to its followers; they can vote (or not) their conscience.

There is only one party on the left, the Magyar Liberális Párt of Gábor Fodor, that has been campaigning with great gusto for people to participate in the referendum and to vote “yes” to the question. This would be, Fodor argues, the courageous thing to do. It would mean that Hungarians stand up and say “yes” to taking in refugees. It would mean that Hungary is a constructive member of the European Union ready to share the burden of the refugee crisis facing Europe. Sitting at home, Fodor says, is simply cowardly.

The counterargument that participation legitimizes an illegitimate and unconstitutional referendum doesn’t seem to impress Fodor. He claims that Viktor Orbán doesn’t give a hoot whether the referendum is valid; he cares only about the percentages. If, let’s say, 30% of the voters say “yes,” this would not be good news for Orbán. If, on the other hand, Fodor contends, 80 or 90% of the votes are “nays,” it will be a great victory for the government quite independently of whether 40% or 55% of the eligible voters cast their ballots.

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Meanwhile, some people think they should take part in the referendum process but should invalidate their ballots by, for example, ticking out both the “no” and the “yes” columns. This solution seems to be favored by the few liberals or socialists living in small villages who think that their not voting would be too obvious. They would like to avoid being labeled.

Of the three opinion polls on the referendum, only the Republikon Intézet included questions about “yes” and purposely invalid ballots. Its analysis showed that 74% of the voters would vote “no,” 7% would say “yes,” and 3% would cast an invalid ballot. However, among those Republikon Intézet describes as “preferring a left-liberal government,” 17% would be ready to say “yes.” For Fodor, whose MLP has only 1% support among the voting population, this 17% must be music to his ears. Since MLP is the only party advocating participating and voting “yes,” it looks as if MLP’s support is much larger. Fodor’s critics suspect that his real agenda is not so much taking a courageous pro-Europe stance as the much more self-serving goal of gaining recognition for a party hardly known to the public. And in the process he is splitting the ranks on the left.

One more observation about Republikon Intézet’s poll. One of its conclusions is that if the left-liberal parties can’t convince their voters to boycott the referendum, they will be the ones responsible for an outcome that will further boost the popularity of Fidesz. And indeed, according to their findings, 66% of people who would like to see a liberal-socialist government after 2018 will most likely vote and only 28% will stay at home. Moreover, 60% of those who plan to participate will vote “no.” Therefore, according to Republikon, the left-liberal voters will be the ones who will bear the burden for a valid and successful referendum for Viktor Orbán. Republikon blames all parties equally for not being able to convince their followers to respond appropriately to the referendum–that is, to boycott it.

The problem here is that lumping all the opposition parties (minus Jobbik) together is misleading. An earlier poll by Závecz Research was more granular. It showed that MSZP and LMP voters were terribly confused. DK, however, was successful at convincing its voters to boycott.

Two days ago Gyula Molnár, chairman of MSZP, and Ferenc Gyurcsány of DK agreed to work together to promote a boycott of the referendum. They will urge their followers to participate in each other’s demonstrations. Both parties will use the slogan “Stay at home, stay in Europe!” Mind you, a day later István Nyakó, MSZP’s new spokesman, backpedaled, stressing that “there is no question of cooperation” between the two parties. They simply share the same opinion on the boycott.

It’s hard to understand why DK has to wait three weeks to start its campaign on September 2 when the government has been campaigning nonstop from the moment Viktor Orbán came up with his brilliant idea of a referendum. There is no time to waste.

August 16, 2016
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dos929
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“… If Viktor Orbán hadn’t eliminated all the checks and balances from the political system…” – but he did! Now, let’s not to forget about the fraudulent use of the votes from Transylvania, Serbia, etc… where the regime gave voting rights to the Hungarian descent citizens of other country’s, who can vote by mail. How many are they? No one knows, and it doesn’t matter. And equally it doesn’t matter how many voters will participate and/or vote with yes or no. The regime holds all the cards and can state the results any way they like. They can proclaim that the participation was this and that and 99.99% of those rejected the refugees. Who can check the real results? The once independent Electoral Commission and the judiciary is now under the thumb of the regime and can do, say and act according the whims of the great leader. Instead of arguing about the details those that oppose the regime should emphasise the illegality of the referendum and the illegality of the regime as a whole. They came to power with lies and deceptions, and are holding on power with the same method. They are a disgusting bunch of common criminals… Read more »
Guest

Just following the constant barage of propaganda from Fidesz against the refugees (paid by the tax payers in Hungary of course …) makes me want to throw up!

A question for our trolls:

If O is so sure that Hungarians don’t want to accept refugees then why has this crazy propaganda campaign been necessary?

It’s really ridiculous – the only positive aspect of it have been all those spoofs on the internet, variations of:

Tudta …

Sometimes they’re really funny!

http://kepeslajoska.tumblr.com/

pappp
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The campaign has many reasons. (1) It’s again a lot of money which can be stolen (the propaganda is paid for by the government/taxpayers). (2) Orban and Kubatov are resurrecting the Fidesz GOTV machinery. There will be a door to door GOTV campaign organized by Fidesz. No other party has even close to the machinery Fidesz has (which it has been improving since 2002), now it has a rare opportunity see in what state the machinery is in and how it needs an improvement. It is a dress rehearsal for 2018. The activists will update the Fidesz voter data base (where will they get a rejection, who is still a kind supporter etc.). Again, no opposition party has even close the data base Fidesz has without which no party can hope to win. (3) A paranoid leader like Orban cannot ever be sure. So he will work diligently to ensure results, make his preferred outcome more likely. From the polls he succeeded mightily, Hungarians reject migrants the most in Europe (or perhaps the Polish a bit more than Hungarians). (4) People have been preoccupied with the refugee issue and the referendum. They think they have a say in the course… Read more »
Observer
Guest

Hear, hear!

Member

What, concretely speaking, are you recommending, Pappp? Everything you said above, we all know. What are you adding?

Guest

Love that vicc..need something to let the hot air out of the VO balloon…;-)….

e-3016
Guest

Why are we having refugees?

Has Moscow weaponized these poor people and forced them to seek shelter outside of Syria and Iraq?

Are the Orban counter-reactions managed from Moscow?

Are Hungarians ready to wake up from their long nap?

Joe Simon
Guest

Would the US ever submit to an international jurisdiction on any issue? Indeed, the US ‘unsigned’ both the Rome Statute and the Vienna Convention, refusing to cooperate with other countries even on human rights issues.
I do admit though that the anti-migrants billboards are rather crude and also unneccesary. However, it is politics and it works for the FIDESZ.

Observer
Guest

If something is working for the Orban mafia, that means it is working against the Hungarian people, even if they don’t realize it. E.g. Hate stunts and warmongering worked for some time for Mussolini and Hitler, although Orban is chickensh.. in comparison.

Guest

Joe, si tacuisses!

Now will Hungary “unsign” from the EU?

Good riddance!

I’m in Germany right now and everybody who knows anything about Hungary is asking me:
Can’t we throw them out?
Because “they’re only in it for the money”!

PS:

Germany pays into the EU about the sum of what Hungary and Poland get – now what could we do with all that money …

Feed a lot of refugees eg.

Istvan
Guest

Well for sure Mr. Simon my country would never join something like the EU. I could add to your list the UN Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities which is based on our Americans with Disabilities Act which our Senate did not ratify.

The truth is Hungary is a small country with a small GDP and does not have the leverage the United States of America or even the Russian Federation does. Russia after its seizure of the Crimea has paid little attention to a plethora of rulings against it by international bodies.

Carl von Clausewitz, who at one point was a mercenary in the Imperial Russian Army, got it right a long time ago when he discussed the dynamic links between military/economic power and politics. Hungary is forced to seek protective alliances to try to protect its perceived interests, the USA and Russia forge those alliances to promote our own interests.

Guest

Re: ‘forced’

If so I’d say it’s Putin putting the guns to their heads not the US. Also, in foreign policy it does not seem the case that strategy and tactics as to developing interests align well in Magyar affairs. Why? Because there does not appear to be a strong adherence to bedrock principles of values underlying the state. They’ve thrown them away like garbage. ‘Goodfellas’ have no interest in honorable and true values.

Minusio
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To participate in a political act that is by itself unlawful means condoning it – however you vote. In addition, it is well known that in Hungary votes are routinely “adjusted” to meet the desired result.

Outside Hungary, Hungarian matters are basically unknown. However, boycotts are registered worldwide – however small the country involved.

Therefore the only honorable and meaningful action is a – well publicised – boycott.

bimbi
Guest

YES. Voters should abstain from this fraud of a referendum. A slim hope, but a hope. The referendum is, however, just another step along the path of Orban keeping himself in power, maintaining the sense of injured ‘victimhood’ on the part of his voter base, fed with fear.

There are on the horizon other migration troubles for VO. Both Austria and Sweden seek to return to Hungary several thousand immigrants registered by Hungary. Hungary has always maintained its conformity with the Dublin agreement and so is bound to admit them.

We shall see how Orban and Szijjarto weasel out of that one…

Jean P.
Guest

Fidesz-democracy is all pretense. Those who cooperate with Fidesz by woting accept and reinforce the pretence. Don’t play their game. Boycott, stay home, abstain, whatever you prefer to call it.

Guest

Absolutely correct!

As I remember Hungarians aren’t fans of democratic elections any way – participation was usually around 50%.

So if a few more people who are against the Fidesz machinations stay at home there is a good chance that the 50% minmum will not be reached …

And I’m almost sure that some people in Fidesz are afraid of this, that might be the real reason for that constant barrage of propaganda. I think this will even increase and maybe have the inverse effect of turning people off, I hope!

On the other hand I can well imagine that shortly before the referendum something will happen or rather will be arranged to add fuel to the fire of “idegengyülölet”!

Bowen
Guest

Wolfi – I’m sure that a “Reichstag fire” scenario has crossed Orban’s mind. However, that would really be a last resort option. Perhaps something they might try if they think they won’t win the 2018 elections.

Guest

Re: ‘the Reichstag fire’

It could be that bad then, eh?

You know if indeed a boycott does occur it will certainly give Viktor and Pete something to think about as they would have to refocus their understanding on what the electorate is thinking. The monkey they throw onto the electorate gets thrown back onto them. Some late nights for them then.

It would appear that the referendum is a litmus test in gauging the political, cultural and social development and conditioning of Magyars within their own society by their government. If they acquiesce to following that line it is more steps away from being part of a union in a common cause towards equality , human dignity and an upholding of natural human rights. And that as it is crowed from Parliament’s speaker’s rostrum that Magyarorszag is ‘democratic’ and ‘Christian’. What a hoot.

If as a result of the referendum going VO’s way the EU does continue to tolerate a country of theirs that negates a part of humanity they should not be surprised to act in the future as the t-cell to a significant immune threat to its entire body.

webber
Guest

Wolfi, slow down. 50% participation on elections is very high, in any democracy – except the ones in which participation is compulsory (such as Luxembourg).

tappanch
Guest

Statistical update provided by the National Bank, MNB today.
My calculation from the official MNB series, in HUF

The financial balance of the six years of the Orban regime
June 30, 2016 vs June 30, 2010,

net debt of the central+local governments+soc sec : up 44.8%
gross debt of the central+local governments+soc sec: up 43.1%

net debt of the central government : up 55.1%
gross debt of the central government: up 52.2%

MNB international reserves: down 22.2% in HUF.

tappanch
Guest

GDP at current prices, 1st quarter of 2016 vs 2010: up by 27.9% [KSH]

FreeWheeling
Guest

As you have clearly shown, debt is increasing yet credit ratings agencies have positive or stable outlooks for Hungary. Even some have raised their grade. Why is this?

Is there an implication that the foreign monetary reserves are being squandered? I’m not sure I fully understand the risks of MNB’s strategy to reduce their reserves.

pappp
Guest

I think it would be very difficult to persuade opposition leaning voters to abstain because at some subconscious level they too want to be on the winning side and they are afraid to disappoint the big Other.

When 88% or something percent is in agreement about the migrant issue (that they hate the migrants) and this is even more so in rural areas, meaning practically everybody is against the migrants, it’s very difficult to for people not to participate. It’s a very easy way to gain enjoyment. It is as if they were drawn to the polls to say no as it is so good t be part of the majority, being “right”, being part of the “winners”. Opposition voters have been on the losing side for long, but now very cheaply (because they actually agree with the no vote) they can be “winners”. Nobody wants to come out as an unpopular, loser, minority person.

Guest

You believe that Hungarians (or at least a majority of them – I know that my wife doesn’t belong to that group!) really are that stupid?

Well, maybe they are – but then they don’t belong into the EU – again:

Hood riddance – illiberal democracy is maybe ok for the Eurasian Union of Putin!

PS:

Sometimes I wonder what the next step will be for Fidesz – of course there is this limit of Human Rights etc. If they cross the Rubikon there (like Erdogan with his thinking about/announcing the death penalty) then it’s the end for democracy in Hungary and for the EU membership.

I still believe however that they won’t go that far – it would mean losing all that money from the EU and also that generated by the automotive industry etc and that would really hurt – Putin couldn’t really compensate them …

Always remember the Fidesz basics:

We’re only in it for the money!
If you have nothing then you are nothing!

pappp
Guest

Wolfi, make no mistake there is literally nothing Fidesz will refrain from doing in order to hold on to power. So the only question is when or to what extent will top Fidesznik sniff danger? As long as they are fairly confident that they can prevail in 2018, they will be sweet and carefree like they are now. If, however, they sensed danger journalist, activists would start going to jail, troublemakers would start disappearing and so on. Erdogan is building out what can be described as a totalitarian state (and is becoming BFF with Russia) and there is no talk of kicking it out of NATO. Sure, the EU membership is off, but that had been a foregone conclusion for years. Orban will stop at nothing and the EU is completely toothless against Orban, money will eventually keep flowing no matter what and the EU knows that too. The relative calm we are experiencing is just a sign that Fideszniks feel quite confident about their prospects – for the time being.

Minusio
Guest

There is a big difference between just abstaining and an internationally well-publicised boycott. In this respect even KN’s slogan was misleading.

Zoli
Guest
Why would anyone who claims that they care about Hungary, or Europe for that matter, want this referendum to fail? Just take a closer look at what is happening with Europe’s tourism industry thanks to the current and past Muslim migrant inflows. France is reporting that airline flights to its country are down 20% for August-September compared with last year. There are also problems reported elsewhere in the EU. So, how exactly is the EU supposed to integrate millions of migrants when this year and next, the EU will probably lose hundreds of thousands of jobs in the tourism industry alone? How is Europe supposed to offer jobs to these newcomers so they can integrate? Why would anyone want this for Hungary? If the referendum passes, it will be yet another nail in the coffin for the twisted, fascist quota idea and that will be a good thing. It will finally lead to the only logical solution for the migrant crisis, namely reject all who come uninvited and return them to their starting place. Countries which desire to take in migrants can go ahead and recruit from refugee shelters where one finds the truly vulnerable, namely the women and children.… Read more »
Jean P.
Guest

“Just take a closer look at what is happening with Europe’s tourism industry thanks to the current and past Muslim migrant inflows.”

The “thanks to” needs proof. Is there any correlation between migrant inflow and terrorism? As far as I can judge terrorism is far worse in countries with migrant outflow. As for the tourist industry in Southeren Europe it wouln’t be much of an industry without migrants ready to take the low paid jobs.

Zoli
Guest

At least some of the Paris Attackers made their way into Europe disguised as migrants.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/15/europe/paris-attacks-passports/

The more recent attacks in Germany.

http://spectator.org/two-terror-attacks-in-germany-committed-by-syrian-refugees/

The roughly 2,000 men who took part in the mass Gynecological exam for 1,200 women in German towns were overwhelmingly recent arrivals.

Aside from that, I never said it was all due to recent arrivals, if you would have read what I wrote and you quoted more carefully, you will see that we are talking about current and past Muslim influx. And all of the terror attacks and the mass sexual attacks belong to either recent or past Muslim arrivals. So really, what is your argument here? Yes there is a correlation! It is not in Hungary, Poland or Slovakia that acts of public mass sexual assaults took place, because it is not where past and current Muslim inflows went and settled. Same for the terrorist attacks. Very clear correlation.

Jean P.
Guest

“At least some of the Paris attackers made their way into Europe disguised as migrants.”

Terrorists choose all sorts of disguises. If they cannot disguise themeselves as migrants there are scores of other disguises available. The Twin Tower terrorists entered the US disguised as rather competent students. If muslims are barred those with terrorist intentions will arrive as Christians, Jews or Buddhists.

Zoli
Guest

Good point! But!!!

You forget that the 9/11 attack involved the recruitment of higher-quality individuals and it was also a significant investment of resources. Also, since 9/11 safety measures have been put in place to prevent a repeat of such attacks. The migrant inflow however opened the doors for attacks with relatively low levels of sophistication to occur on a regular basis. It can be a lone terrorist, so no plot to intercept. It can be a small group that needs nothing aside from some stuff that can easily be obtained on the European black market, so again harder to detect. And there is no way, no how that 1,200 women would have been brutally assaulted.

In effect, the rules and regulations put into place after 9/11 are still being applied to those who arrive through legal means, whether as tourists, students, workers or migrants, while about 2 million people were allowed to show up, without anyone being sure who the hell any of them are.

Guest

Just like those hundreds of thousands Hungarians who went to Western Europe?

And your grandfather who probably was a Szalasi fan? How did he get to the USA? Did he write similar things about those bad Jews?

You really should return to breitfart!
There they might believe your propaganda!

Member

Meanwhile on Planet Hungary

Concerned citizens (14 parents so far) petitioned the local authorities in Pomaz, Hungary, about the color of the fence at an elementary schools. According to them it is unacceptable that the fence has been painted with the colors of the Gay Pride movement. The fence looks like a rainbow and the colors are exactly in the order of the Gay Pride flag. The parents demand repainting, preferably before the schools starts, using one color.

https://postimg.org/image/oeatjvh5r

tappanch
Guest

The British statistics I found shows the employed people in UK with Polish, Hungarian, Czech, Slovak, Slovenian and Baltic citizenship combined, in thousands.

April-June of

2010: 551
2011: 663
2012: 684
2013: 667
2014: 859
2015: 963
2016: 1007

See:
http://www.ons.gov.uk/file?uri=/employmentandlabourmarket/peopleinwork/employmentandemployeetypes/datasets/employmentbycountryofbirthandnationalityemp06/current/emp06aug2016.xls

Can one find the data series that counts the Hungarians only?

bimbi
Guest

My apologies, folks. Call it pedantry. My 1958 Concise Oxford dictionary defines “boycott” (v.t.): punish, coerce (person, class or nation) by systematic refusal of social or commercial relations; combine in abstaining from (goods etc.) with this aim. “Abstain” (v.i.) is to keep oneself away, refrain (from). It is impossible to boycott a referendum (where is the “coercion”?) but it sure is possible to abstain from it – and this is what concerned, honest and fair-minded voters in Hungary should be doing on October 2. DON’T TURN UP!

Guest

Good overview of ‘boycott’. You know there is another synonym related to ‘boycott’ and that is ‘ostracize’. Allegedly, ‘ostracize’ was more the term as poor Irish renters who were being evicted from their lands refused to work for a ‘Captain Boycott’. In effect they wanted to get him out of their community. But it was felt his name was better to use putting more pressure on him throughout the land. Arguably as Magyars are asked to engage in a boycott they in a way are lookng to ostracize.

tappanch
Guest

On June 9, 2015, Orban (using a papal quotation) praised the Islamic sharia and promised Arab bankers that nobody in Hungary will lecture them about democracy.

http://www.kormany.hu/hu/a-miniszterelnok/beszedek-publikaciok-interjuk/orban-viktor-beszede-az-arab-bankok-szovetsegenek-eves-kozgyulesen

tappanch
Guest

I second Eva, this “referendum” should be boycotted. In addition, European bodies should state the obvious and declare the Hungarian Election Bureau and Commission partisan and as such illegitimate.

tappanch
Guest

On the other hand, I still find Ms Merkel’s zig-zag policies incomprehensible and harmful for democracy.

In August 2015, she asked refugees [and anybody who cared] to come to Germany, then demanded other countries to share her country’s burden. Later, she paid billions to dictator Erdogan, begging him not to let the refugees cross to Europe.

Her policies strengthened dictators like Orban and Erdogan, extremist and anti-European parties in Austria, France, etc.

tappanch
Guest

The police are not willing to charge the skinheads who physically prevented on February 23 the timely filing for a referendum that Fidesz did not like.

http://nol.hu/belfold/a-kopaszok-alkotmanyos-jogos-sertettek-de-a-rendorseg-szerint-nem-tortent-semmi-1628159

Police, Pol Pot’s prosecutors, Election Bureau, Election Commission, Constitutional Court (there is no longer Constitution!), President of the Republic (Hungary is no longer republic!) are just parts of the one-Fuehrered, one-party kleptocratic regime.

PALIKA
Guest
I have read with some concern the often less than helpful contributions as a result of which I need to ask some questions. It has been said that the October referendum is illegal and/unconstitutional. Has the National Election Agency ruled on this point? If not why not? If they ruled was the ruling challanged in the Courts? if they have not been asked to make a ruling have the courts including the Constitutional court been asked to decide the issue of legality and/or constitutionality? The question presupposes that Hungary has been asked by some organ of the EU to admit refugees. Has the EU any power under any of the Treaties to issue a binding request to a member state to admit non EU Nationals? If so what is that provision? If it is binding what sanction can the EU impose for failure to comply? The answer OV wants is one that would appear to authorise him to defy the EU. If the demand to admit refugees is not binding there is no problem and the referendum is a complete waste of time because the Government can simply refuse to admit refugees. The only time this exercise could become interesting… Read more »
webber
Guest

OT – or rather, on a topic we had earlier:
I would bet just about any amount of money that Breitbart has received funding from Putin.
The quality of news it provides is just about that of the People’s World (formerly Daily Worker) in its prime (also supported by Moscow, back in the day).
Breitbart fanatics share the starry-eyed belief that Breitbart gives them “truth” otherwise “suppressed” by mainstream media. That is exactly what People’s World readers used to say (yes, I’m showing my age).
They’d show the uninitiated copies of the rag, and hint that their eyes would be opened….
The style of news has changed, the strategy is the same.

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