Brazen falsification of the history of ’56 by the Orbán regime

Yesterday I wrote that because of the political eclecticism of the October Revolution it is easy for people to use those days for their own political ends by latching onto one ideological strain or another. But interpretation, even if in this case necessarily reductionist, is one thing; blatant falsification of history is quite another. Unfortunately, it is the latter that’s going on in Hungary today.

Just to show the scope of the systematic rewriting, and distortion, of the history of the revolution, I will cite two recent examples. The first is an article from the notorious 888.hu, a news site that is supposed to capture the imagination of pro-Fidesz millennials and post-millennials. The other is an exhibit put together by the so-called historians of the House of Terror, whose director is Mária Schmidt, the grand master of historical falsification.

Last night I read an article that enraged me, titled “Gyurcsány falsifies the historical memory of ’56 with pathological cynicism.” His sin? He dared to say, while laying a wreath at one of the monuments to the revolution: “While the revolution of Imre Nagy aimed at advancing the homeland, the current prime minister’s references to his name, memory and legacy are a desecration of this immaculate revolution. It is naked blasphemy.” He added that “while the revolution of Imre Nagy was the revolution of freedom and democracy, the current Hungarian prime minister is the leader of the counterrevolution.”

I perfectly understand that a government-financed publication is unhappy about Ferenc Gyurcsány’s assessment of both the 1956 revolution and Viktor Orbán’s political role. But what followed in the article is the crudest distortion of historical facts. One may argue about the role of Imre Nagy in the early 1950s, but to claim that “neither the majority of historians nor the Hungarian people have ever considered” Nagy to have an important role in the revolutionary period or after is simply preposterous. I was astonished to read that “it was only an accident that Imre Nagy headed the provisional government and it was only his execution that made him more or less an honored historical character.” Further, the author of this incredible piece of prose claims that the only reason Nagy accepted martyrdom was his alleged knowledge that even if he resigned as prime minister, he would have been executed by his communist comrades.

This is, of course, a pack of lies. After 1954 the whole country pinned its hopes on Imre Nagy, and that huge crowd in front of the parliament building on October 23 stood there for hours, not moving an inch until the party chiefs inside the building produced him. Once he spoke, the crowd dispersed peacefully. To say that Nagy played only an accidental role in the revolution is such an incredible claim that it takes one’s breath away.

And now let’s move on to a much more serious act of falsification of ’56. It is more egregious than the 888.hu’s scribbler’s fantasies about ’56 because it was committed by so-called historians. Readers of Hungarian Spectrum have been exposed to enough articles by Mária Schmidt, the director of the House of Terror, to know not to expect much from anyone who works for that institution. In fact, it itself is a crude falsification of history.

Photo by Gabriella Csoszó / FreeDoc

Photo by Gabriella Csoszó / FreeDoc

The story is as follows. Viktor Orbán put Mária Schmidt in charge of the sixtieth anniversary celebrations of the ’56 revolution. She received 13.5 billion forints for proper celebrations all over the world. The House of Terror also received money to erect a picture gallery of sorts in front of its building on Andrássy út for the edification of passers-by. The exhibit is attractive. The only problem is that the most important actors of the revolution are missing: all those whose political views don’t conform to the present regime’s requirements. When including a person “on the wrong side” is unavoidable, like in the picture gallery of those executed, the historians of the House of Terror made sure that everybody would understand that the martyrdom of the “communists” was not the same as that of the rest. Of the 226 people executed, only three are identified by political affiliation (in all three cases, “communist politicians”): Imre Nagy, Géza Losonczy, and Miklós Gimes. As for the rest of the story of the revolution, important political actors simply don’t appear, as if they never existed.

There is a small civic group which calls itself “Eleven Emlékmű” (Live Memorial). It grew out of the circle of people who have been holding a vigil at the infamous memorial erected to commemorate the occupation of Hungary by German troops on March 19, 1944. They were the ones who first became aware of the lopsided presentation of the events of the October revolution. Mária Vásárhelyi, daughter of Miklós Vásárhelyi, one of the prominent participants in the revolution, and Adrienn Molnár were responsible for providing the names of those who, as a result of the present Hungarian regime’s “purification” efforts, either became non-persons or were singled out as communist politicians. The list consists of 60 names. Here I will list only the best-known.

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István Bibó (1911-1979), Hungary’s most notable politician in the 20th century, minister without portfolio in the last Nagy government. He received life imprisonment.

Tibor Déry (1894-1977), writer. He received nine years in 1957 for his role during the revolution and for his opposition to the Kádár regime.

Ferenc Donáth (1913-1986), politician who was jailed between 1951 and 1954. Close associate of Imre Nagy. He received a jail sentence of 12 years.

István Eörsi (1931-2005), writer, poet, translator. Worked as a journalist during the revolution. He originally received eight years.

Miklós Gimes (1917-1958), journalist. During the revolution he was the editor of a new newspaper called Magyar Szabadság. After November 4 he published a samizdat paper called Október Huszonharmadika. He was executed along with Imre Nagy.

Árpád Göncz (1921-2015), politician, agriculturist, writer, translator, president of Hungary (1990-2000). He originally received a life sentence.

Sándor Haraszti (1897-1982), journalist, politician. In 1951 he was sentenced to death but in 1954 that was changed to a life sentence and later he was set free. On October 31 he was named editor-in-chief of Népszabadság. In November he was deported to Romania. In 1958 he was sentenced to six years.

György Heltai (1914-1994), lawyer, politician. As deputy foreign minister he worked to prepare Hungary for its withdrawal from the Warsaw Pact. He emigrated, and between 1959 and 1963 was head of the Imre Nagy Institute in Brussels.

Anna Kéthly (1889-1976), social democratic politician who had an important role to play in the reorganization of the Social Democratic Party during the revolution. She was a member of Imre Nagy’s last ministry. She traveled to the Vienna conference of the II International in November and failed to return home. Abroad she became president of the Hungarian Revolutionary Council.

Sándor Kopácsi (1922-2001), police chief of Budapest who sided with the revolution. He was second-in-charge of the National Guard, which was headed by Béla Király, who by the way later became an adviser to Viktor Orbán. Király, of course, made it to the House of Terror display. Kopácsi was sentenced to life, a sentence that was commuted in 1963. In 1975 he emigrated to Canada.

Béla Kovács (1908-1959), Smallholder politician arrested by the Russians in 1947 and exiled to the Soviet Union. He was released only in April 1956. He was active in the revival of the Smallholders’ Party during the revolution and between October 27 and November 2 was minister of agriculture in the second and the third Nagy governments.

György Litván (1929-2006), historian who belonged to the opposition that centered around Imre Nagy after 1955. He was a member of the Revolutionary Committee of the Hungarian Professionals. He received six years.

Géza Losonczy (1917-1958), journalist, politician, organizer of the Petőfi Kör, member of the closest circle around Imre Nagy. He was named minister without portfolio on October 30 when Imre Nagy announced the end of the one-party system. He began a hunger strike in jail, where he died under unclear circumstances.

Pál Maléter (1917-1958), army officer, minister of defense in the last Nagy government. He was abducted during his negotiations with the Soviet leadership. He was condemned to death and was executed.

István Marián (1924-2004), army officer, head of the military department of the Budapest Engineering University who became one of the leaders of the Association of Hungarian University and College Students. He originally received a life sentence, which was commuted in 1963.

Imre Mécs (1933-), electrical engineer, active in the organization of the National Guard. In 1959 he was condemned to death, a sentence that was changed to life. He was released in 1963.

Imre Nagy (1896-1958), prime minister and foreign minister. On November 4 he and his close associates escaped to the Yugoslav Embassy, which they left on November 22 with a letter of protection from János Kádár. They were immediately arrested by the Soviets who deported them to Romania. Nagy was brought back to Hungary in April 1957 and was condemned to death on June 15. The next day he was executed.

József Szilágyi (1917-1958), politician. He joined the Imre Nagy faction in 1953. One of the organizers of the demonstration on October 23. First he worked together with Kopácsi at police headquarters and later he was the head of Imre Nagy’s secretariat. He was among those who found temporary shelter in the Yugoslav Embassy. He was also condemned to death and executed.

Zoltán Tildy (1889-1961), Hungarian Reformed minister, head of the Smallholders Party. From October 25 he served as deputy prime minister in the Nagy government. He received six years but was granted clemency in 1959.

Miklós Vásárhelyi (1917-2001), journalist. Close associate of Imre Nagy. He took part in the organization of the Petőfi Kör. On November 1 he became the press secretary of the Nagy government. He received five years. In 1990 he became a member of parliament in the first free elections.

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After going through these names, one wonders what remained of the October Revolution as chronicled by the historians of the House of Terror. I fear not much.

October 24, 2016
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Guest
London Calling! The Terror House is a disaster – a truly frustrating dump for anyone outside Hungary trying to understand the history of the Nation – even when it’s not doing a ‘special’ for a significant event. “We was invaded twice – and it wasn’t our fault” I think that’s it. There’s no proper flow and you end up trying to guess which ‘TV’ will burst into life – many missed because you have to navigate others trying to do the same. Oh yes – gigantic pictures of hero Viktor DiktatOrban of course who single handedly expelled the Russians of course and started the collapse of communism (not). Then there’s the Russian tank in a tank of filthy oil which vaporises up the stairwell – no doubt dishing out cancer. The filthy oil just have come from the surrounding car servicing garages. Then there’s Horthy’s car mysteriously surrounded by curtains with separately lit sections coming on at different times. There are very few – if any, explanations in English, for example, with videos using English subtitles, poorly translated. The temporary outdoor exhibits appear to only be in Hungarian for Hungarians – stuff any foreigners who pay the extortionate entrance fee… Read more »
Bowen
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Dear Charlie, such awful words about the Terror House. Some people complain that it’s a tacky, brainless, theme park. In reality, it’s a carefully designed learning experience. It propels you from room to room, teaching you all about Hungarian suffering from 1944 onwards (when Hungary lost its sovereignty, remember?).

Finally, it culminates in a room where you literally have to stand in front of a big screen of Orban Viktor giving his 1989 speech (the moment when Hungary was saved). The message is simple and clear.

Oh, and it’s got a generous marketing budget, to make sure lots of foreigners end up there to learn about Hungary. And it sells Zsolt Bayer history books (in English too!) in the gift shop. What’s not to like?

webber
Guest

Last time I was there it started with Trianon… with the clear implication that the Holocaust arose out of Trianon.
Complete insanity.

tappanch
Guest

We must never forget the hundreds of thousands of Hungarians killed by the nazi German invaders !!!! When will Germany pay us reparations?

webber
Guest

Again, who are “we”? (is this again the false tappanch?). Are you a Holocaust survivor?
Any amount could only be symbolic. No amount could be enough. But Germany has paid reparations:

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/claims1.html
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/reparations.html

Guest

This is a green ‘tappanch’ and a fraud

Andrew
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It’s now a well-established fact that the deportations of May-July were carried out willingly by the Hungarian Gendarmerie, under the authority of the Regent. Hungary was an occupied country, occupied with Horthy’s consent. 440,000 were deported from the countryside. It has been estimated that about half of Budapest’s Jewish population was murdered/ starved to death under the Szilási government, authorised by Horthy before he abdicated as the result of the October coup. The deportations may have been organised by Eichmann, but this was a Hungarian Holocaust, not solely the result of the German SS occupation of Budapest.

Member

This is the genuine tappanch calling. Dark green fake tappanch above is from kormany.hu.

Guest

This green tappanch is a fraud

Reality Check
Guest

Invaders? You are falsifying history.

Guest

Yes, Bowen. A truly didactic experience, giving an amazing perspective on history – and with a wonderful Duchemp-esq art installation showing a brutalesque tank in filthy dirty oil a conceptual flowing narrative.

What was I thinking of?

Doy
Guest

Yes, and it is anti-semitic.

Guest

Re: Zsolt Bayer history books

Pardon but what on? I could imagine they are probably the shortest books in the Magyar history canon. Is it perhaps a picture book or maybe the new ‘pulp fiction?’

Member

You, tappanch, who are such a master of current facts and minutiae — you think the facts about the past are trivial and unimportant?

webber
Guest

Who are “we”?
Each of us should do what we think is important.
I think what Eva has written above is very important. This regime’s falsification of the history of 1956 is important.
If you don’t feel this is important, fair enough – go away and do what you think is important.

webber
Guest

Who are “we”? You are, I believe, masquerading under someone else’s moniker.
This is a new trick from a Fidesznik. I congratulate you on doing something novel. Now please stop.

Guest

This is a green ‘tappanch’ and a fraud

petofi
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Need I remind you of Stalin’s famous bon mot: “Elections are not decided by those who vote, but by those who count the votes…”

tappanch
Guest

This “tappanch” is not tappanch, but an impostor !!!!

webber
Guest

Eva, is there any way to keep others from using the same names as regular contributors? All that is needed is a filter that only allows one person registered under a name. I don’t know if that is possible.

Guest

In the meantime the blue pattern with the concomitant ‘snowflake’ – providing tappanch doesn’t change, for example, his email address – will stay the same.

For the moment if tappanch’ starts his posts with “tappanch blue is true!” We’ll know it’s him!

Bowen
Guest

No Charlie. The real Tappanch hasn’t commented at all on this post. All the ‘Tappanch’ posts here are fake. It’s a new trick to try and drown out comments on this blog.

webber
Guest

I’m fairly sure that the post below from Tappanch about Tiborcz is from the real Tappanch.
Even if it is not, it’s an excellent post – with a very interesting document signed by Pinter.

Guest

I think the ‘blue’ snowflake – providing it looks like a Marks&Spencers jumper- is him.
The true tappanch!

tappanch
Guest

The color of my logo is dependent on the “e-mail” I write here. I have not changed this for months. I also use the Tor browser to make it more difficult for the interlopers to capture my “e-mail” address.

At this minute, I seem to be in Bulgaria. 🙂

Guest

This is a green ‘tappanch’ and a fraud

tappanch
Guest

This “tappanch” is not tappanch, but an impostor !!!!

tappanch
Guest

The issue of Fidesz corruption will bring down the Orban regime !!

Regime proxies monopolize the media exactly to keep the voters in dark about the massive scale of this corruption.

Guest

This is a green ‘tappanch’ and a fraud

Bowen
Guest

You realise that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery? I guess the real Tappanch is regarded with some real respect (and fear) over there on the troll team.

tappanch
Guest

Details about the connection between Orban’s son-in-law Tiborcz and Ghaith Pharaon, who is wanted by FBI .

https://atlatszo.hu/2016/10/22/orban-szomszedsagaban-is-bevasarolt-az-fbi-altal-korozott-szaudi-milliardos/

Minister Pinter is not satisfied with the FBI list, he would like to know more about Pharaon from the Saudi ambassador.

http://egyuttpart.hu/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/v%C3%A9gs%C5%91terrorista.pdf

The connection between Turkish dictator Erdogan, the castle business (see Orban’s recent legislation to divert public money into private hands) and Tiborcz:

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webber
Guest

Pintér says Pharaon’s name is misspelled on the FBI’s arrest warrant, so he wonders if it is the same guy? NICE trick! Pintér surely knows that you spell Arab names in Latin in different ways, depending on the spelling system of the country the person is in, and often on what the Arab suggests to the person registering his name. Faraon, Pharaon, Farahon, Paraon, Fara’on, etc., etc., etc.
The same goes for names spelled originally in Cyrillic: Putyin in Hungarian, sometimes Putjin (look online if you don’t believe me), Putin in English – etc. All the same person.

The most interesting thing about this is who the source is? There is obviously a “leak” in the Interior Ministry – documents from the very top are hitting the press. So much for Hungarian state security!

Not only can they not understand that Arabic names can be spelled in a variety of ways, they can’t keep top documents in their own ministry secret. It’s a complete joke.

Apparently they are too busy bugging opposition figures, and embezzling money to deal with security in their own ministries!

Ferenc
Guest

Why care about their lousy security, let the leak, let them leak, and then sometime in the near future there will come some serious trouble for them into the open

webber
Guest

The most disgusting interpretation of 1956 came in Parliament from the MP Lajos Kósa (Fidesz), who wondered “Whether those who whistled” (protesting against Orban) “were expressing support for the communist secret police?” (In Hungarian: “aki ilyenkor fütyürészik, vajon azt fejezi ki, hogy ő az ÁVH-val ért egyet?”)
This, from a member of a government which has made a former communist secret police officer a state secretary, and has just made him a lieutenant-general. This, from a party and government which has steadfastly refused to open the secret police files.
THAT is Fidesz. A party of the most brazen liars this planet has ever seen. Former communist police spies or wannabees (young Fideszniks), every single one of them, who pose day in and day out as anti-communists.

Istvan
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Webber you give Lajos Kósa too much credit for original thinking. I listened to the Orban speech of the 23rd and he did a one sentence reference to those whistling as an injection to his reference to the communist terror in 1956. ( on this video https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bwM9p0zehKo it’s at minute 11:30 ). Without actually saying it explicitly he made it clear to his cheering Fidesz supporters, some based on signs were from Transylvania, that the protestors were in fact supporters of communist restoration in Hungary. I think Kósa was just copying the thought of the great leader Orban. As a side note on Transylvania in August at a festival of Hungarian culture in Cluj the Hungarian retro rock band Beatrice performed their song Utálom az egész XX. századot (I hate the entire 20th Century). Feró Nagy of Beatrice regularly performs at Jobbik events and is identified as a Jobbik supporter (see this video http://gonc.jobbik.hu/content/nagy-fer%C3%B3-kiakadt-szar-amit-csin%C3%A1ltok ). During the performance background shots were shown of Hitler and Stalin in apparent violation of Romanian law, the American Hungarian Federation recently defended this performance in the name of Hungarian autonomy in Transylvania. Somehow I doubt the AHF will defend the protestors of Orban’s speech.
Guest

Re: ‘the American Hungarian Federation recently defended this performance’

?? Did I read that correctly??

Istvan
Guest

Yes

Guest

I’m at a loss of words.

Guest

This is a green ‘tappanch’ and a fraud

webber
Guest

The green tappanch has changed his color here and there. What he posts is a giveaway.
They really must hate tappanch in Fidesz troll headquarters.

webber
Guest

Привет!
Where are you? Novosibirsk?
You write like a Russian, so I suppose you are one.

Guest

This is a green ‘tappanch’ and a fraud

Guest

With the many repetitions the above could be from the libretto of the opera “The False Tappanch”.

Seriously, is jt possible to intrude that way without state of the art hacking?

Guest

This is truly horrible, these brazen falsifications by both omissions and commissions. Vérlázító!!!

Maria Schmidt, The House of Terror and the Fidesz media cohort are all a thoroughly nauseating mix of the disgusting and the pathetic. Goebbels and of the Ministry of Truth in Orwell’s 1984 their guiding lights.

But unfortunately for them, the actual facts of 1956 are unarguable and so thoroughly documented inside and outside Hungary that they may well be said to be cast in concrete, and facts are facts: they have a disconcerting habit of piercing through lies and falsifications, no matter how often repeated, no matter the volume they are broadcast, and no matter how well funded.

The names and stories of the men and women who made history at that time will survive and prevail long after Maria Schmidt, the House of terror and the Fidesz media cohort had rotted away on the garbage dump of history.

Guest

And of course the topic of lustration which shows clearly that Fidesz has something (or rather a lot of things …) to hide!

We’ve often discussed this but it should stay on the agenda even if it will be too late to apply anything to those who made it from Communist secret police informer etc to Fidesz “Democrat” without a hitch!

Not too much OT:

In Germany right now (more than 70 years after it happened …) the last trials are running against former KZ guards and their accomplices – “we just did office work” is often heard from them …

It’s never too late for the truth to come out!

webber
Guest

It is NEVER too late.
If the opposition could agree to lustration — they really have nothing to lose. Some of their people would be revealed as former secret police agents, of course – but since Fidesz already slanders them as communists, that wouldn’t have too much effect on them, and they can proudly say that they have revealed all, even agents in their own ranks, to clean up Hungarian politics. People would respect that.
But when top Fidesz people are revealed to have been secret police agents, THAT will be impossible for Fidesz to explain away. What can they say? That they never really meant that they were anti-communists? Or that they are anti-communists who tried to overcome communism by spying on their fellow citizens for the communist state? Or that they are now sincere anti-communists? What can they possibly say?
(as Istvan put it about a different issue). No matter what they say, cognitive dissonance among Fidesz followers would be just too great to overcome.

Bowen
Guest

Cognitive dissonance seems to occur at a very fundamental level in Hungarian society.

Not only over lustration (I’m sure a lot of Hungarians have skeletons in their cupboards – not only state officials).

Not only over Hungary’s role in WW2 and the Holocaust (Hungary sent a vast proportion of its population to its death – willingly – how shameful!)

And the aggressive magyarization which ultimately led to Trianon (sorry, but what goes around comes around).

One of Fidesz’s policies seems to be to protect a certain section of society from facing up to any of these awful psychic wounds. Unfortunately ‘protect’ here means ‘pretend they didn’t happen, and blame others’. Unfortunately, as long as Hungarian society fails to face up to its past honestly, the country will never ever progress. In fact, it will be permanently sick.

webber
Guest

So, you also support lustration.
Got to start somewhere!
Lustration would kill several birds – starting with Fidesz, and then quite a few foul lies about the communist past, and about transition from communism.

Bowen
Guest

Well, I’m not Hungarian, so you might argue that I have no right poking my nose in. But, yes, of course, lustration would mean ‘progression’, in my view.

Guest

Looking back on the revolution and how it’s looked at today puts up the fact of alot of ‘unfinished business’ going on regardless of picking up the pieces after the Russians got through with dealing with a recalcitrant people and the state. Yes they packed up and went home after doing their business but like a bad dream they’ve come back to help get the post revolutionary narrative in other directions. And some Magyars willingly aid that sly simmering hatred which will always course through Magyar society always because of …’unfinished business’.

Andrew
Guest

Interesting. Reading Kopácsi’s account of Bloody Thursday again yesterday, it also seems that he provided valuable evidence in his book about what actually happened in Kossúth tér on 25 October, who fired first, from where, and what their motives were. I can only imagine that those who ignore this want to suppress his evidence about his telephone conversation with Imre Nagy at this crucial moment. Before this, the ‘Uprising’ was, in effect a series of protests and demonstrations. After it, it became a revolution, with a clear split in the Communist establishment, with Nagy, Maleter and Kopácsi clearly on the side of the revolutionaries. There is obviously a deliberate attempt to muddy these waters by the ‘nationalist’ historians and politicians.

Ferenc
Guest

1.What about getting an independent team of historians to review the Terror House exhibition(s), and publishing that in all international and Hungarian newspapers interested.
Also if any EU funds are used for the TH exhibitions and clear falsifications of history can be stated, it can e taken to EU institutions.
2.Another thing, next to providing additional information boards by volunteers, the ‘selective’ exhibition(s) should be openly and officially be questioned in parliament, science academy, etc. anywhere were possible!!

Bowen
Guest

I think you have quite a naive view of how Hungary functions these days.

Ferenc
Guest

Well there’s some actions about it, so far only by ‘Eleven Emlekmu’, they have published on their website and in Magyar Naranc an open letter to dr.Schmidt Máriá, here are the links:
http://magyarnarancs.hu/belpol/nyilt-level-dr-schmidt-marianak-101333
https://www.facebook.com/ElevenEmlekmu
All is in Hungarian only, but as the dr.and company are publishing now also in English (see ‘magyarforradalom1956’ and ‘freedomfirst1956’), may EE should get some assistance in publishing translations non-Hungarian speakers.

Ferenc
Guest

For anybody who wants to know/read more about the ’56 revolution, what books are available ad can be recommended by readers of this blog?
Personally I know only one (by Kopacsi Sandor), which I didn’t know about when I came across it in a second hand bookshop. I think it’s a very good personal account about the ’56 Revolution, including also things happening before and afterwards.
In my opinion it should be compulsory literature for history students, but now wondering if it’s at the moment even still in print in Hungary.

Reality Check
Guest
Reality Check
Guest

Eva and others would be more qualified to comment on which books are the best.

webber
Guest

It isn’t just what happened in 1956 that they’ve falsified. They even falsified what happened on Sunday!
Fidesz-controlled news website Origo reported a fight at the Jobbik rally before that rally even started. There was no fight there at all.
Story here:
http://comment.blog.hu/2016/10/24/elore_megirta_az_origo_hogy_balhe_lesz_a_jobbik_megemlekezesen?utm_source=cimlap&utm_medium=link&utm_content=2016_10_25&utm_campaign=index
The only drama on Sunday was at the Fidesz rally, where Fideszniks attacked opposition protesters.

Ferenc
Guest

Well, hell again, as I yesterday commented, that last week I searched “freedom first” without any results, except very ‘indirectly’ being connected to “magyarforradalom1956.hu”, which is basically the Fidesz/OV view of all things ’56.
And now today I hit http://www.freedomfirst1956.com , which according to googles info started on 2016.Oct.23, okay that’s an appropiate day. Just found it now, so will start checking it’s content and invite all of you interested to do the same, especially people with good knowledge about all things ’56 (which I don’t consider myself).

Bowen
Guest

Well, very clearly it’s a government site. Why are you here, driving traffic to it?

Ferenc
Guest

Come on, gimme a break!!
With checking the above mentioned site, I mean very clearly if all mentioned there is correct and if nothing is ‘forgotten’ there, like Eva wrote about in her post.
If you’re not interested in checking, it’s OK, but please driving traffic…..
Furthermore I’m astonished that this site pops up only now, while it’s logo was used before and I ‘last week had difficulty finding out where it was related to/coming from.

Guest

@Ferenc
Today 7:21 am

Ferenc, if you are really looking for solid, reliable and comprehensive English language information on 1956, may I suggest that you start with the following two books:
1.
The Revolt of the Mind by Tamas Aczel and Tibor Meray, published by Frederick A Praeger, New York (1959)
2.
The Hungarian Revolution, edited by Melvin J Lasky, published by Martin Secker & Warburg Ltd, London (1957).

Ferenc
Guest

Thanks, will look for those

PALIKA
Guest

Also Mikes wrote one , ” The Hungarian Revolution” published by Deutch, I expect. It is not often he turned to a serious topic seriously. Tsi-tsa was another example. He wrote about a stray cat who found him and he got carried away by his affection for her. A mutual friend remarked that after many decades of friendship that when he showed his feelings for the cat was the first time she saw him show any human emotion. He wore a mask that rarely cracked.
He also wrote a wartime diary in Hungarian, Egy Hijjan Husz. Quite fun

PALIKA
Guest

Further to post on Tsi Tsa, it is said to be a commentary on what Mikes thought of humans. He thought cat deserves a biography, humans do not. He did one for himself, “How to be 70?”

He was the only English language writer to have been born in Siklos, Baranya.

tappanch
Guest

Media news.

The opposition weekly “168 ora” was purchased, indirectly, by Alexander Rovt (born in Mukachevo, 1952) a year ago. The journalists are paid late in the last months. Rovt has also obtained partial ownership of the only opposition radio station, Klubradio.

Rovt has good relations with Imre Pakh (born in Mukachevo in 1950), who had disputes with the Orban gov’t because of his Munkacsy paintings, but whose foundation is chaired by Philip Rakay, a media advisor to Orban.

Rovt is also close to the Chabad in Hungary. The leading rabbi of the organization, Mr Köves maintains cordial relations with the Orban regime. His wife is one of the six daughters of chief Chabad rabbi of Russia, Lazar Berel. Mr Berel has very good ties to Putin in return.

https://atlatszo.hu/2016/10/25/likviditasi-valsag-a-168-oranal-ki-all-valojaban-a-brit-media-kft-mogott/

tappanch
Guest

Correction: Rabbi (Berel) Lazar’s SISTER is rabbi Köves’s wife. Sorry for the error above.

tappanch
Guest

Now I checked my old notes. Rabbi Lazar’s sister is rabbi Oberlander’s wife.

My apologies again.

Let me put it this way. The Chabad of Hungary has close family ties to the Chabad of Russia.

rkr
Guest

Why didn’t the shareholders of 168 óra or Klubaradio sell the paper to some reliable left-wing person? Aren’t there any left-wing people with money left in Hungary?

Put it another way, no leftist believes in the leftist media enough to invest money in it. To put it yet another way, the left-wing is finished. It has no media, and the last small outlets are disappearing.

But make no mistake the left-wing wound itself up. It is so corrupt.

The left-wing sold its media and let some other media be sold to Fidesz.

This process was a conscious decision. Let’s face it, the left-wing sold its own future and it is thus now becoming extinct. Deal with it.

Ferenc
Guest

Here’s an example how the independent from politics the ’56 Memorial Commitee is:
in Hungarian: http://www.magyarforradalom1956.hu/aktualitasok/hirek/v/ez-a-part-meg-mindig-az-a-part–az-56-os-emlekbizottsag-nyilatkozata/
in English: http://www.magyarforradalom1956.hu/whats-on/latest-news/v/this-party-is-still-the-same-tarty–the-statement-of-the-1956-memorial-committe/

Here some main quotes:
“the Memorial Committee …. has asked the parties of the Hungarian Assembly …… not to use the greatest national day of our national identity [Oct.23] for political purposes”

“……. the Memorial Committee for 1956 is making the following statement to the Hungarian nation: ‘The Memorial Committee for 1956 founded by the Hungarian Government [Fidesz/OV] regrets to see that the Hungarian Socialist Party (MSZP) is not able to leave its shameful past behind…….. without having apologised for the sins of its legal predecessor…….. this party illegally resort to violence against the peacefully celebrating people by having shot at them in 2006…….'”

This is so disgusting…………….

petofi
Guest

Lustration a no go in Hungary?
Don’t know why?
Think priests–both Catholic and Protestant–and you’ll be on the right tract…

Member

Just registered.
The logo I received is green, but LIGHT green.
(The fake tappanch today had DARK green logo).

Let’s try.

Member

So it works. The genuine tappanch (light blue in recent weeks) will have a “Member” mark (instead of “Guest”) under its light green logo.

matt
Guest

me too.

Member

Orban’s front company, Opimus (of BudaCash fraud fame) obtained 100% of Mediaworks today. Mediaworks is the publisher of 12 county dailies and the erased Nepszabadsag.

https://bet.hu/newkibdata/122720049/Hird_OPIMUS_PRESS_20161025.pdf

Member
Member

Where is the 13.5 billion forints the government allegedly spent to celebrate October 23, 2016 ? They could not have spent more than 0.1% of this amount on Orban’s half an hour speech.

Was part of the money used to purchase Mediaworks?

Liszkay, who had left Simicska for Orban was appointed to the board immediately.

The only good news that the journalists of the newspaper have also the right to use the nickname “Nepszabi”, so their facebook page cannot be closed down right away.

https://www.facebook.com/nepszabadsagszerkesztoseg/

Member

Pecunia non olet sed Pecina olet.

Observer
Guest

Everything associated with Orban stinks.
His whole political career is a long string of of lies and cheating (excluding his childhood lies and mischief), from his 1989 speech to this weeks shameless arrogance re Népszabadság. The latest lie lived for less than a week, now we know.
Guys, for those living in a democracy, under the rule of law, it’s often hard to imagine the developments in Hungary, let alone understand. Think Mussolini or Orwell’s Animal Farm, if not 1984.

It is fascism light here, no ifs and buts.
And thank the German CDU/CSU for this, they did a lot.

Member

Freedom House:

“In response to a businessman close to Hungary’s prime minister purchasing the country’s most prominent opposition newspaper company, Freedom House issued the following statement:

“The suspension and sale of Nepszabadsag show the government’s growing influence over Hungary’s media,” said Robert Herman, vice president for international programs. “Hungary’s government uses ownership as a political tool to silence critical coverage. The EU and the United States should forcefully condemn this attack on the press.””

https://freedomhouse.org/article/hungary-sale-nepszabadsag-shows-government-influence-over-media

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