Donald Trump’s influential advisers: Sebastian and Katharine Gorka

This morning we had a lengthy power outage before I had a chance to review the day’s news. So I had to shift gears and turn to a topic that has occupied me for the last three days: Sebastian Gorka. I gave a number of interviews to hard-working, efficient investigative journalists who have unearthed an amazing amount of information about the Anglo-Hungarian adventurer who has become an influential player in Donald Trump’s White House.

But first, I would like to express my appreciation for the informative discussion that my post about “Keep Quiet” elicited in the comments section. I would also like to call attention to two screenings of the film. It will be shown in New York at the Lincoln Plaza Cinema on February 17 and in Los Angeles in the Laemmle Town Center / Music Hall on March 3.

There has been an incredible amount of interest in “our” Sebastian Gorka. I say “our” because Hungarian Spectrum was the first internet site to deal at some length with Gorka, who, by the way, is turning out to be a much more important character in the Trump White House than we first realized.

It was on January 31 that I wrote “Sebastian Gorka’s Road from Budapest to the White House” and on February 2, “Sebastian L. von Gorka’s encounter with the Hungarian National Security Office.” Subsequently, with the help of Eli Clifton, who wrote a fascinating article titled “Why Is Trump Adviser Wearing Medal of Nazi Collaborators?” I ascertained that I was wrong in assuming that the “v.” in Sebastian L. v. Gorka’s name stands for “von.” I came to the revised conclusion that the medal on Gorka’s “bocskai” is the symbol of the “vitézi rend” or “Order of Heroes” and that the “v.” stands for “vitéz.” Clifton’s article is a real gem, which should be read by everyone who wants to know more about Gorka’s right-wing roots.

Sebastian Gorka in “bocskai” displaying the Order of Heroes with his wife Katharine on January 20th

Also fascinating is Allegra Kirkland’s excellent piece “How Did Sebastian Gorka Go from the Anti-Muslim Fringe to White House Aide?” Kirkland was interested in finding out more about Gorka’s reputation as a scholar and learned that Gorka, according to real experts in the field, is not “in the reasonable mainstream” and that other scholars find Gorka’s book “propaganda.”

A day later Fusion reported that Gorka wasn’t exactly truthful when he claimed that he was “an expert witness” in the Boston bombing trial. It turned out that Gorka only submitted an “expert report,” which was never used, which is different from being “an expert witness.” The article is full of useful links to sources on Gorka.

Equally enlightening is Politico’s “The Husband-And-Wife Team Driving Trump’s National Security Policy.” Here one can learn of the “team work” of Sebastian and Katharine Gorka, Sebastian’s American-born wife. Perhaps the most intriguing revelation of the piece is that “several passages of Sebastian’s 2007 dissertation, on the rise of radical Islam, appeared almost verbatim two years earlier in an article for the conservative journal Human Events. The byline over an online version of the article, “ccornell,” links to the author page of Katharine Cornell—the maiden name of Katharine Gorka.” That casts a shadow over the authorship of Sebastian Gorka’s dissertation. But what is much more frightening is that “Trump’s rhetoric and actions since taking office reflect the influence of the Gorkas, who call for a tougher response against Islamist radicalism.”

Finally, I would like call attention to an article that appeared in WorldNetDaily, a conservative news and opinion website, in June 2016 titled “Sebastian Gorka’s Plan To Defeat Isis—Simple But Devastating.” Here one can read the summary of Gorka’s book, Defeating Jihad. It seems that Trump’s simple-minded ideas about defeating ISIS come straight from Sebastian and Katharine Gorka.

Wrapping up today’s post, I would like to say a few words about the so-called land reform of 1942, which is mentioned in the Clifton article. This was the first time that the Hungarian government expropriated Jewish property, specifically agricultural land. László Csősz published a study of the specifics with the title “Land Reform and Race-Protection: Implementation of the Fourth Jewish Law.” Apparently, the Vitézi Szék, that is the organization itself, received 130,000 holds from this expropriated land, with the understanding that they would be distributed among its members. The article is available online. And one more piece of information on the “Vitézi Rend.” Róbert Kerepeszki of the University of Debrecen described the organization as a “radically rightist, ultra-nationalist as well as anti-Semitic” body. What was new to me was that the order “also operated an unofficial secret service, informing their headquarters and Horthy about any dissent present in the country.” A person who is committed to democratic values cannot possibly be proud of his family’s association with such a group.

February 13, 2017
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gdfxx
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For those who are not familiar with the Hungarian unit of measurement “hold”, 1 hold = 1.4 acres. Thus the 130,000 expropriated holds equal about 180,000 acres.

gdfxx
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Although I have no problem with Trump’s (or anyone else’s) strong opposition to the radical Islamic terrorism, I am sorry that this idea is represented by such a dubious character in this administration.

Andy
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Gorka would be well advised to return his medals, and stop using his Vitéz reference.

Otherwise, he is the right person to poke a hole into the Russia-Islam unholly alliance.

webber
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What “Russia-Islam” alliance????

Member

Where had these ultra-right, racist people been hiding for so long and why do we let them come out of the woodwork now?

Menshevik
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I think you should start to look for some woodwork just about now.

arpad toth
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Te hol bujkaltal komcsi elvtars ?

wrfree
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Coming in here sometines feels as if we are witnessing a run of ‘The Cabinet of Dr. Calgari’ as it shows a nightmarish world involving illusion, angst and duality it intrudes on realities of existence. Mr. Gorka would apparently seem to be a Janus romping through a hall of oblique funhouse mirrors as we visit horrors of the past. Nothing seems straight with this guy.

exTor
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https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sebastian_Gorka&offset=&limit=500&action=history I have wanted to do this for a long time, every since I started reading about Gorka via Éva. I got into the Wikipedia entry for Gorka, specifically what the changes were to the viewed article. I learned a lot back there. Initially I supported Éva’s view that the article was selfwritten, however a delve revealed that that could not be the case. To be sure, Sebastian Gorka could have inserted many bits of information himself, or could have caused certain insertions to have been made. The above link will reveal the entirety of the edit history of his Wikiarticle. As I write this, there have been 318 edits by a total 68 people. The earliest entry was 2011 February 10 [16:01] and the most recent 2017 February 14 [01:19], a few hours ago. Most edits have been minor changes. I saw evidence of vandalism, which was removed. Most authors of edits are fanboys, possibly fangirls, of Sebastian Gorka, which means that he doesn’t have to do any dirty work. The following link gives the stats behind the Wikiarticle. For example, there have been 143 edits in the past 30 days, whereas there were only 36 edits from 2011… Read more »
wrfree
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Regarding ‘love tokens’..

And that has to do with the Donny-Vlad ‘love’ affair. One PBS commentator just had to ask , ‘What’s Donny looking to give Vlad?’

Member

Here is another idea. It is also possible that the Gorka family (father and son) falsely claimed to have received the “vitéz” title from Horthy.

The Gorka [or Horak] name is NOT on the online list of 27000 members, 1921-1945.

http://katonahoseink.hu/vitezirend/index.html

(The list comes with a disclaimer of not being complete and might contain errors).

In any case, presidential deputy assistant Sebastian Gorka proudly wore the badge of this organization on inauguration day.

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From Horthy’s speech to the “vitéz”s on August 20, 1921:

“A Vitézi Rendnek hármas célja van: jutalmazni a vitézséggel párosult honfi erényt, megtartani a nagy idők legjobbjait és biztosítani a hősök nemzetségének fennmaradását, végül bennük és utódaikban a magyar fajnak olyan hatalmat biztosítani, amely rettentő erővel sujt le minden felforgató állam- és nemzetellenes törekvésre.

A Vitézi Rendet a véráztatta televény magyar földbe ültetem; adja Isten, hogy mihamarabb gyökeret verjen benne. Legyen belőle hatalmas tölgyerdő, amely dacolhasson a második ezredév viharaival; legyen a Vitézi Rend turáni fajunk és hazánk büszkesége, de ha kell, élesen vágó kardja is.”

“The order of Vitéz has a threefold purpose: […] to provide, through its members and their descendants, such a power to the Hungarian RACE that [this race] can smash any anti-state or anti-national endeavor. […] The order of Vitéz is the pride of our Turanic RACE and our country.[…]

http://vitezirend1920.hu/content/view/59/65/

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“The history of the Order of Vitéz from the 1930s to its dissolution [in 1945]”

http://epa.oszk.hu/00000/00018/00012/07tatrai.htm

Another article connecting the confiscated assets of Jewish persons with the Order of Vitéz:

http://www.szombat.org/tortenelem/a-zsidok-elkobzott-foldjeit-nem-a-szegenyek-hanem-a-vitezek-kaptak

Note:
Initially, the “vitéz” title was awarded to people who participated in the first world war OR in the counterrevolution and white terror of 1919 & 1920. [That is right, it was Horthy, not the Communists decades later who first called these events counterrevolution].

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The contemporary “Order of Vitéz ” organization proudly celebrates the attempted breakout of German and Hungarian troops from Buda on February 11, 1945 as the “Day of Honor”.

[Meine Ehre heißt Treue (“My honor is called loyalty”) was the motto of the Nazi organization Schutzstaffel (SS).]

http://www.vitezirend.com/rovatok/hirek/becsulet-napja-h-b-megye/

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Another source gives higher numbers for the 1942-1945 years. (The number of awarded titles is the same as above for 1921-1941)

http://rendjel.myhunet.com/hu/Az-I.-vilaghaboru-vegetol-a-II.-vilaghaboru-vegeig-%281919-1945%29/Vitezi-rend/

webber
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Some lunatics in Hungary formed their own new Orders of Vitéz back in the 1990s. I say “orders” because there are several such organizations, and none of them have anything to do with the original order, though they all claim they do and copied nearly everything from the original. They are still active. Not so long ago one of their members returned his “award” to them. Story here: http://hvg.hu/itthon/20120927_maga_vitezi_rend_kilepes
I bet Gorka has one of these fake awards, and that’s why you can’t find his name or his ancestors’ names on the original lists.

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“Trump national security aide Flynn resigns over Russian contacts”

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-flynn-idUSKBN15S0BR

petofi
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Not to mention a second strike against the Goebbels of American politics–Kellyanne Conway.

webber
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“Breaking News: Putin accepts Flynn’s resignation”
🙂 all over the net just now.

webber
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OT – on Interior Minister Pintér’s underworld connections – a report on the German book Schmutzige Demokratie, by Jürgen Roth:
https://atlatszo.hu/2017/02/13/jurgen-roth-pinter-sandor-titka/

petofi
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US politics–Flynn resignation.

Something funny going on. Seems like Flynn was set up.

I wouldn’t be selling this guy any life insurance now…

webber
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He set himself up.

petofi
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@ webber

You don’t know the half of it. He was an intelligence specialist. Do you think he would’ve gone to the Russian ambassador if he hadn’t been sent? Moreover, expecting any surveillance to be done away with? Trump set him up.

petofi
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A retired, four star general was just on MSNBC saying that Flynn was the top security specialist
in Iraq (Afganistan?). Fishiness all over.

petofi
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James Jesus Angleton is spinning in his grave.

petofi
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It’s time to read, “New Lies For Old”
by Anatoliy Golitsyn.

wrfree
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As some have asked regarding Flynn, it would be interesting to know what were his ‘instructions’ when having chats with our ‘friendly-enemy’.

Istvan
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Petofi he was in military intelligence for many years. As I noted in a post yesterday he had a history of being less than truthful.

webber
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Correction – I don’t know the hundredth of it. But neither do you, old boy.

Istvan
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US House of Representatives Intelligence Committee Ranking Member Adam Schiff (D-CA) basically asked last night part of the same question petofi did. Relating as to whether or not Trump authorized those discussions, no one believes Trump would have set up Lt General Flynn. The Russians might have however.

webber
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Trump, I believe, might be SUCH a rube, that he didn’t realize that what Flynn did could be a problem (indeed, against the law). When that became clear to him, he cut Flynn loose. The question of who authorized Flynn to do what he did will not go away, though I suppose Flynn might stick with the “I did it alone” story.

wrfree
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Re: ‘The Russians mught have however’

Could see that as conceivable considering the Russian sanctions issue. But really look what the Russians see namely a government already in the mire with a sensational national security issue.

Trump’s administration looks like it has rode into a deep deep ravine…. and they keep on inviting the rocks to pummel down on them with their flailing steps.

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Anyone of Gorka’s age who is running around calling himself “vitez” has got a screw loose. That kind of thing is for 95-year-old coffin dodgers who sit around watching Jozsef Simandy lip-sync “Hazam, hazam” on Duna TV in Florida.

After my grandfather died, my grandmother remarried a vitez. He took the last name “de Baranchi.” When you threw in the “vitez” and all the other fake nobility stuff, his name barely fit on the mailbox.

He would show up at family gatherings with his medals klinking on his chest. As far as we knew, the only one that was actually authentic was the medal from the Knights of Malta. A true, tragicomic popinjay.

The fact that a relatively young man is trying to affect this persona is truly pathetic. Even moreso since he has the ear of the president of the United States.

wrfree
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Re: ‘.. fake nobility’..and ‘hazam,hazam .. DunaTv’

I see others here had their run in with that. I almost did but begged off.

Many years ago through a mutual acquaintance I was introduced to a lady who from the way she was coming off thought she was descended from the ‘nobility’. But perhaps it was more that she was enamored with hanging out with Magyar Counts, Barons or ”vons’ before their surname. She invited me to a party near the UN where they all would be making the scene. Did I go? Nah. But in hindsight maybe I should’ve went .. to get at least some autographs in that noble Magyar atmosphere.

Guest

A tragic farce is being played out in the White house these days, or perhaps a farcical tragedy. Pathetic would be the best word to describe it if it was not so deadly dangerous. Anyway, the whole rotten thing reflects very poorly on America, Americans, and the American system of government.

wrfree
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You know I wish we could have started a better race coming out of the blocks. But it aint happening. Not with a POTUS with the type of personality we see in ‘ackshun’ each and every day. Have to say he’s taking a page out of the VO media playbook. The mantra is ‘in your face all over the place’. If the Trumpster keeps this pace up of ‘Trump all of of the time, every time’ he’ll be seeing a sleep specialist pretty soon with consequences for US policy execution. I think we have a very insecure POTUS who delegates with heavy ropes attached. No doubt a great challenge who work for him. Let’s hope the only medication they use to cope is Tylenol.

webber
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If that’s the only medicine they need to cope, the rest of us may need heavy sedatives.

wrfree
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Funny you mentioned that! Joke time.

Why does Donald Trump take Xanax?

For Hispanic attacks….🙀😎

petofi
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@ ambalint

“…reflects poorly on America..”–and that would be cause for celebration in certain quarters, would not you think?

Ferenc
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Paul v. Gorka – Budapest Betrayed – From the Flyleaf: “A Hungarian Resistance fighter vividly portrays his betrayal, torture and imprisonment prior to the 1956 Uprising, which allowed him to escape to the West. This significant eye witness account from the Hungarian side reveals for the first time how the Resistance network in Hungary, like Albania, was first organised and then betrayed to the Soviet forces by Philby, Burgess, Maclean and Blunt, causing 45 victims to be executed and giving the Soviet Union a pretext to stay on in Eastern Europe after the Second World War and to crush the 1956 Uprising on the grounds of “foreign interference”. Those betrayed were given the first indication that traitors were at work in the British Secret Service.” “Paul v. Gorka was born in 1930 and witnessed the Red Army’s siege of Budapest during the Second World War. After 1948, as a student of architecture, he organised the Catholic Resistance Movement, eventually in conjunction with the British Intelligence Services. He was arrested, tortured, given a life sentence, and imprisoned from 1950 to 1956. He was freed during the Hungarian and after opposing the Soviet invasion he escaped to the West. He received the… Read more »
exTor
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https://hu.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gorka_Sebestyén&action=history

It had to happen. The Magyar version [Gorka Sebestyén] of the WikiGorka materialized a couple of days ago. It took about a day to get it operational. There has been only one person (with one exception) doing the work.

Interestingly, Gorka’s birthplace is listed as Ealing, which is in west London, where he went to school. This author seems to know much more about Sebastian Gorka. The above link shows the entire edit history.

The Hungarian Wikiauthor identifies himself as ‘Szilas’. Please link to the following webpage. There is a foto on it that is likely of the person who started the Magyar Wikiverzió. Someone may recognize him.

http://vs.aka-online.de/cgi-bin/wppagehiststat.pl?lang=hu.wikipedia&page=Gorka_Sebestyén

MAGYARKOZÓ

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Gorka as a “vitéz”.

It looks likely that it was not his grandfather who received the title from Horthy, but his father got it after 1956 from one of the successor organization-in-exile, the “történelmi” (“historical”) vitézi rend.
http://prohungarianemzetiportal.ning.com/forum/topics/gyorshir?commentId=6573332:Comment:93057
[roll down to Február 8, 2017]

They regard quite a few war criminals as their spiritual ancestors.
http://www.vitezirend.co.hu/pictures.htm

They awarded titles for participation in 1956.
http://www.vitezirend.co.hu/archive.htm

They celebrate the February 11, 1945 Buda breakout by German and Hungarian troops.
http://www.vitezirend.co.hu/center_frm.htm

They celebrate Horthy’s anniversary.
http://www.vitezirend.co.hu/center_frm.htm

Their leader was Ferenc Farkas de Kisbarnak from 1962 to 1977.
Farkas was instrumental in preventing Horthy from switching sides on October 15, 1944. Szalasi promoted his military rank and appointed him to various positions.
http://www.vitezirend.co.hu/history.htm
http://hvg.hu/velemeny/20061215_kisbarnaki

other links:

Andras Lanczi (!) was Gorka’s PhD advisor in 2008.
http://www.doktori.hu/index.php?menuid=193&lang=HU&vid=1125
http://phd.lib.uni-corvinus.hu/314/3/gorka_sebestyen_thu.pdf

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Gorka as a “vitéz”.

It looks likely that it was not his grandfather who received the title from Horthy, but his father got it after 1956 from one of the successor organization-in-exile, the “történelmi” (“historical”) vitézi rend.

“http://prohungarianemzetiportal.ning.com/forum/topics/gyorshir?commentId=6573332:Comment:93057”
[roll down to Február 8, 2017]

They regard quite a few war criminals as their spiritual ancestors.
http://www.vitezirend.co.hu/pictures.htm

They awarded titles for participation in 1956.
http://www.vitezirend.co.hu/archive.htm

They celebrate the February 11, 1945 Buda breakout by German and Hungarian troops.
http://www.vitezirend.co.hu/center_frm.htm

They celebrate Horthy’s anniversary.
http://www.vitezirend.co.hu/center_frm.htm

Their leader was Ferenc Farkas de Kisbarnak from 1962 to 1977.
Farkas was instrumental in preventing Horthy from switching sides on October 15, 1944. Szalasi promoted his military rank and appointed him to various positions.
http://www.vitezirend.co.hu/history.htm
http://hvg.hu/velemeny/20061215_kisbarnaki

Member
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Andras Lanczi (!) was Gorka’s PhD advisor in 2008.
“http://www.doktori.hu/index.php?menuid=193&lang=HU&vid=1125”
http://phd.lib.uni-corvinus.hu/314/3/gorka_sebestyen_thu.pdf

Ferenc
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So, how should this after 1956 given ‘vitéz order’ be rated now?
Could be considered as ‘álvitéz’ or ‘fake-knight’?

Still wonder how ‘official’ the “v.” is in his father’s full name…..

Nicholas Molnar
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Is this such an important issue and the Vitezi Rend such a horrible thing, that is worth so much bullshit to write about???

webber
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The man advises the President of the United States. So you think it’s not important? Don’t bother to read about it if you think it’s not important. I think it’s very important.

FreeWheeling
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If you are Hungarian and know about 20th century history it does matter. If you’re not Hungarian, it would seem to be just piffle.

Ferenc
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Searching more info about Paul Gorka and his ‘1979 decoration’ brought me to this: UPRISING! One Nation’s Nightmare: Hungary 1956 1981 book by David Irving – http://www.fpp.co.uk/books/Uprising/Uprising.zip (zip includes: Uprising.pdf) First Printing 1981 / Second Printing 1986 / Electronic Edition 2001 first something about the author (from wiki): “David Irving is an English Holocaust denier and author who has written on the military and political history of World War II, with a focus on Nazi Germany. Though Irving’s revisionist views of World War II were never taken seriously by mainstream historians, he was once recognised for his knowledge of Nazi Germany and his ability to unearth new historical documents.” “Uprising!, about the 1956 revolt in Hungary, which Irving characterised as “primarily an anti-Jewish uprising”, supposedly because the Communist regime was itself controlled by Jews. Irving’s depiction of Hungary’s Communist regime as a Jewish dictatorship oppressing Gentiles sparked charges of antisemitism.” =>so be careful with info from the book, but nevertheless it contains following (related to Gorka) in Chapter 10: The Stone Quarry “Young Paul Gorka, a student, went down for life in 1950 for collecting for British Intelligence the kind of detailed information that invading armies would need. Using special… Read more »
George Pór
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See also what NY Times wrote about Mr. Gorka, a protege of the alt-right “President Bannon”: https://www.facebook.com/george.por/posts/10156514113402524

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