Microsoft had enough: heads rolled

You may recall the huge Romanian corruption scandal that involved large bribes paid to members of the Romanian government in exchange for their approving increases in license fees for Microsoft products. It was in October 2014 that the investigation by the National Anticorruption Directorate began, and soon enough more than 100 persons were identified as being connected to the case. Among them were nine government ministers. Sentencing took place in March and October 2016. Four of the accused are already serving sentences of between two and six years.

There is a good possibility that similar corruption occurred in Hungary, this time involving Microsoft Hungary, a subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation. But the government response couldn’t have been more different.

József Spirk, earlier of Népszabadság and now at 24.hu, broke the news that the parent company had decided to initiate an internal investigation of the business practices of the Hungarian affiliate. In fact, it is likely that the investigation has been going on for some time. Apparently Microsoft headquarters sent a team of investigators to Budapest, perhaps as early as the second half of 2015. The investigators, with the help of a Hungarian law firm, looked into the business practices of Microsoft Hungary, especially during the tenure of István Papp as general manager.

According to Microsoft News, during Papp’s tenure (2011-2015) Microsoft Hungary was recognized as the best-performing Microsoft subsidiary of its size for two years running. In recognition of his achievement, Papp was promoted to the post of vice-president for sales, marketing, and services in the Asia Pacific in August 2015, and he and his family moved to Singapore. But his stay there was short. By March 2016 his employment was most likely terminated. He returned to Hungary, where he became vice president for business development of HIPA (Hungarian Investment Promotion Agency). HIPA is a government organization under the ministry of foreign affairs and trade. It provides professional consulting services to interested companies free of charge, identifying investment possibilities. In brief, he became a civil servant of sorts. After eight months, in August of this year, he decided to establish his own company, called Thriveo. It advertises itself, in its own English, as “No bullshit here. We build or enhance your strategy and engage in execution. We do not apologize for any inconvenience.” Looking at Thriveo’s website, I have my doubts about the future of Papp’s company.

Péter Szijjártó as representative of the government and István Papp as general manager of Microsoft Hungary sign a strategic partnership in December 2012

The other person of interest in this story is Viktor Sagyibó, who spent eight years at Microsoft Hungary between 2008 and January 2016. He started fairly low on the totem pole, but by 2012 he oversaw all sales of Microsoft products to the government. In July 2015 he was promoted again, to supervise the company’s business with large corporations. By April 2016, however, he was no longer at Microsoft. His departure was certainly not advertised. Microsoft simply announced a few months after his departure that his job had been taken over by Gabriella Bábel, who began her career at Microsoft in 2011.

After leaving Microsoft, perhaps under a cloud, Sagyibó became CEO of 4iG Nyrt., a company that designs customized software based on Oracle and Java technology. Its customers are mostly government agencies, like the National Health Insurance Fund, the National Police Headquarters, and the Hungarian Central Statistical Office. His tenure at 4iG, however, was short. Two weeks after getting the job, he resigned “for unforeseeable personal reasons.” Apparently his quick departure from 4iG had something to do with Microsoft’s strong suspicion or perhaps even knowledge that Sagyibó had a role to play in the corruption case Microsoft Corporation was investigating.

Microsoft Hungary doesn’t deal directly with the Hungarian government but uses so-called LAR partners. LAR stands for “large account reseller.” As a result of its investigation, last month Microsoft broke its contracts with three of its largest LAR partners “for ethical reasons.” These companies, as you can well imagine, were on very good terms with the Fidesz government.

The largest company, which was perhaps the busiest business partner of Microsoft, was Humansoft Kft., a company established in 1989. It has business arrangements with Dell, Cisco, Symantec, Fujitsu-Siemens, and many other important companies in addition to Microsoft. Humansoft has a close relationship to important Fidesz figures, and as a result it was the beneficiary of a 1.5 billion forint grant for software development from the European Union in 2015. The second company, Euro One Zrt., is also a well-established firm with 100 employees, while the third one is a much smaller outfit called RacioNet Zrt.

Microsoft’s decision to disrupt the traditional method of doing business with the Hungarian government, going back years, was unexpected and very sudden. It came a few days after János Lázár, head of the prime minister’s office, announced on November 7 that Viktor Sagyibó, the former Microsoft employee, had been hired as “ministerial commissioner” entrusted with the supervision of all domestic and EU projects. He is also in charge of monitoring information technology development within the so-called Public Administration and Civil Service Development Operative Program, a program that is very large. Hungary will invest over 935 million euros, including €795 million from EU funding, under this rubric

Sagyibó’s government appointment must have been the last straw for Microsoft. 24.hu naturally tried to get more information from Microsoft Hungary. It received no confirmation of the investigation, but the company didn’t deny the rumor.

Interestingly, both István Papp and Viktor Sagyibó ended up, at least temporarily, in government employment. Sagyibó came out especially well. It is not an everyday affair that someone who most likely left Microsoft under a cloud ends up being a commissioner who is supposed to make sure that EU grants are well spent.

December 12, 2017
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Cujo
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Why isn’t VO proposing a national consultation in regards to Hungary joining the institution of the European Prosecutor?
On another note, Another file worthwhile investigating could be the EADS contract with the Hungarian Government to supply an enormous amount of telecommunication infrastructure in the country; the size of the contract is hovering at the 1 Bill € mark. A similar investigation is being carried out in Romania, no arrests so far. At a point this was a joint investigation with German prosecutors but they closed the case at their end for lack of evidence.
http://www.defense-aerospace.com/articles-view/release/3/66318/edo-wins-spanish-submarine-work-(feb-2).html

Observer
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Again, ALL GOV PROJECTS ARE CORRUPT in Orbanistan, it’s a very sound assumption based on studies and hundreds of example.
If anyone, I hoped that large foreign suppliers of niche/unique products may be the rare exception. Not so, particularly if headed by local Hungarians.
Beign hired by the Orban regime in higher position is being accepted in the mafia.

wrfree
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Re: ‘Being hired by the Orban regime in higher position is being accepted in the mafia’

Perhaps that is why each time I see Peter S in pictures here I always wonder well what’s the ‘gig’ going on underneath? In a way he himself represents to some on the way up the young Magyar political professional. If so the years ahead will be tough on certain diplomatic relationships.

Ron
Guest

Going back to 2008. Who organised the egg throwing? VO?

We ever find out who was the guy’s name that threw the egg at Steve Ballmer, and where is he now?

petofi
Guest

Hungaricos: when you can’t beat them; when you can’t even understand them…well, you throw eggs at them–that’s the brave, Hungarian, Christian, response–

Member

You’re assuming Hungarian college kids don’t get unruly without Orban’s imprimatur. As I recall, this guy was just passionate about open-source programs.

At the time, throwing eggs at people was protected as “free speech.” I can’t remember when the law changed, but it did.

petofi
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Strategic Partnership: You sit yourself up here and we determine what you’ll pay us annually to give you advantages over your competitors in our country.

Buziness, Hungarian style!

HAJRA MAGYAROK!!

petofi
Guest

Moore has stated that now that he’s free, he’s available to be drafted by any Hungarian political party and lead it to victory and the Christian way of life, as he knows it…

The opposition members are considering it-

Guest

Moore’s defeat is a good example that a situation must become extreme for people (voters) to react – now what would have to happen in Hungary for people to wake up and go to vote?
The reigning corruption is not enough – maybe an epidemic of Black Death caused by the hygiene problems?
But Hungarians probably would blame that on Soros again …

wrfree
Guest

As they say here now , ‘No moore’. Gives food for thought on the later national election. That White House is looking like a dump. Whoever gets in there will be dealing with busted windows, ripped carpets and all the holes in the walls after what a present occupant is doing to it and the ‘soul’ of the country.

Guest

A young relative of my wife works in IT and he says it’s impossible for his company to do honest business deals with the government – there’s always at least one “Mr ten percent” involved, sometimes several.
The guy who with his small company modernised my house many years ago said the same – and you should hear my English brother in law …
Some things never change.
Many German companies however have adapted to this corruption regime, even (or especially …) large ones like Siemens etc. I was surprised when I read that the German tax office accepts payment of bribes as business expenses – but only in foreign countries!
It’s good to hear that MS has principles here.

Ron
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wolfi1977 “It’s good to hear that MS has principles here.”. It is legally forbidden in the USA. Persons and entities (read: management) are personal liable, if bribe foreign officials, in the USA.

https://www.justice.gov/criminal-fraud/foreign-corrupt-practices-act

Since late 90~ties internal audits are also focusing on this subject.

Further, I would be not surprised if the USA gave MS the heads-up regarding this issue Bunge had with NAV back in 2012 to 2014. Whereby some Hungarian persons were blacklisted.

Istvan
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You are correct and with the prosecutions of several Trump associates for foreign payments the pressure on firms to not pay off various government officals around the world may be increasing. I know that in the international military equipment trade the federal law on corrupt practices was taught in seminars to staff at Raytheon.

Guest

Rather OT:
Your mentioning Bunge (they produce my wife’s favorite sunflower oil: Venusz) reminded me of those days when the price of sugar also went though the roof (almost 400 HUF per kilo) and housewives thought about having their husbands drive to Austria to buy tons of sugar …
The price then settled around 300 – and now I saw an ad for a good brand and less than 200 Forint per kilo!
So what went on there – that’s the question …

Ron
Guest

What went on is a very simple but effective (for the fraudsters) VAT scam. The Budapest Beacon had a good article about this. But you find and it is well documented in the various news outlets (including the alternative ones).
https://budapestbeacon.com/vat-fraud-hungary-sovereign-sugar/
http://www.freehungary.hu/index.php/56-hirek/2463-hungary-s-financial-scandal-vat-fraud-the-case-of-sovereign-sugar

Guest

Ron, thanks!
But these articles don’ explain (or even mention) the price explosion for sugar – and the fall of the price righ now. I think it is connected to new EU rules.
Btw VAT fraud is still going on in the EU – just saw an article on it somewhere in German – it’s a muli billion € business.

Ron
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There is no real explanation, except for the world prices for white sugar.
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May be another explanation may be that good land was used to grow crops for the ethanol production in stead of sugar beets. It was a big hype. Lots of grants and subsidies.

Observer
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Ron
I’ve always wanted to know how does the US extra-territorial jurisdiction works, but was lazy thx the link.
I wish the US Attorney Gen persued the case, this kind of cases can weaken or bring down the Orban mafia.
Im certain there are many cases that will stand in a US court, from bribes to insider trading to money laundering, in EU relation discrimination and unfair practices too.

Andy --- da one-and-only
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Andy --- da one-and-only

Oh, Baby ! Fidesz ever so talnted at immediately sniffing out potential future ‘collaborators’:

Automatik give-away:
– if ya fired by a US corp for ethical reasons, you gonna BE SUPER GOOD for FIDESZ, Baby !

Guranteeeeeeed

JZuma
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Though one wouldn’t be surprised at all if one or both of these fired MS managers were also employed by certain state agencies. It’s common knowledge that many of those who work in government relations departments of major corporations have ties to such agencies. This would also explain how Sagyibó who despite having worked in IT all his life has zero info about him available on the internet but was still trusted by Janos Lazar to supervise all EU projects. Which in laymen’s terms means his job was to deflect attention away from the theft, protect the buddies and troubleshoot if there’s some disagreement about whom getting what portion of the pie.

wrfree
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The EU might want to take a look at the manuever Microsoft pulled on Magyarorszag. Control, alt, delete looks as if it came in handy.

Mr. Gates no doubt has to be scratching his head when he got wind of the game. There he is giving his millions away to better the world. And Orban and co raking it in and doing much to ruin it.

Marty
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The opposition achieved what some thought was impossible given Fidesz corruption (which is the single most corrupt place in Europe not counting Russia, which isn’t European anyway) and incompetence – it’s getting more rejected and less likeable.

Meanwhile Fidesz has been getting more likeable and more popular for months.

Fidesz’ popularity within the nation in general (almost 40% of all voters) is 4 times as much as that of its next competitor, Jobbik.

The left-wing is unbelievably unpopular. Compared to them Fidesz and Orban are a lovely bunch.

This is what Median (which is the most trusted pollster) says and it’s actually plausible.

There is no way most voters would want to trust the future of the nation (especially when “the dangers are so big”) to people like Molnár Gyula, Gergely Karácsony and their clueless, corrupt bunch.

Just another day in an autocracy.

https://24.hu/kozelet/2017/12/13/egyre-ellenszenvesebb-az-ellenzek/

Marty
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OT. Nora L. Ritok is a successful leader of her NGO Igazgyöngy which operates in rural Berettyóújfalú (Hajdu-Buhar country close to the Romanian border). There is an interesting sentence from her in an interview. She doesn’t understand why the rural people don’t say anything, why don’t they let their voice be heard – because the situation is so terrible and hopeless in those really rural, unbelievably backward regions. It’s basically a death spiral in which such poor regions find themselves with no hope whatsoever. The thing is: it is only the rural, conservative, backward people who actually decide what happens in Hungary and they are very clear. They’ve seen the leftists-liberals several times in power who – rural people realized – gave up on them, looked down on them and now the rural people are done with the leftists for good. Fidesz can do literally anything with rural people (just like for example Maduro can do with Venezuelans) these people will never again consider any leftists and liberals (in Venezueala the right-wing is so deeply unpopular despite total chaos). Rural people rather suffer and die in silence than to vote for a leftist/liberal. This is how badly the liberals/leftist fucked… Read more »
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leftists-liberals several times in power Are you sure? I remember only 8 years – all the other regimes after 1989 were conservative imho, including the first four years of (1998 – 2002) which were oh so successful … I’d say that this is a typical Hungarian problem – too many bunko paraszt as my wife is wont to say. Though what’s the reason for that? Let me give you a counter example: A distinct Schwab relative of mine was a truck driver, hard working, married with kids – surely not a typical progressive. He’s been retired for more than 15 years now (he’s 81 years old) and is an ardent admirer of our Green Mayor … Now would you call him a leftist – liberal or what? PS: Obviously he’s not the only one – the Greens were the strongest party in the last elections in Baden-Württemberg, the home of Mercedes, Porsche, Bosch etc … And 60 years ago when I was young the Christian Democrats (Clerical Fascists we called them) had an absolute majority here – oh how times have changed! PS: My wife just tried to watch some Hungarian news program – just to look at those Fidesz… Read more »
Marty
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MSZP-SZDSZ coalition in 1994-1998 and then again in 2002-2010. That’s three general elections and 12 years.

Guest

Sorry, Marty – really forgot those 4 years …
Seems I’m getting too old for politics!
PS:
I was in Bp for a visit in 1996 and didn’t see much Socialism …

Member

“The thing is: it is only the rural, conservative, backward people who actually decide what happens in Hungary and they are very clear.”

Yes, their views are certainly clear. They are, by and large (with a very few honourable exceptions) horrible racist, homophobic anti-semitic, misogynist bigots (always were, always will be) who would sell their soul to the devil for a bag of potatoes.

No genuine socialist or liberal should soil themselves fighting the Orbanist regime in the gutter for these peoples’ “hearts”

I have no idea how they can be decontaminated and maybe they are truly a lost cause.

Marty
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As long everyone has a vote there is no way rural, uneducated folks can be left out of a winning coalition of constituencies. Being liked by rural folks therefore is essential. Once the liberals/leftists wrote them off as hopeless, worthless superfluous country bumpkins who must change their way of life in order to be accepted as civilized folks these voters were completely lost to the left-wing. It was a suicidal approach. Orban himself represents the revenge of the country bumpkins against the haughty urban Jewish intellectuals of SZDSZ who told him how to eat and dress. He was deeply humiliated and set himself to eradicate the urban liberals once and for all and however long it takes. He’s delivering on that promise. And it’s not just about this rigged, gerrymandered system which isn’t on the whole democracy any more of course but even under a totally proportionate system any party is in need of uneducated rural voters in order to govern. There’s no other way. It’s another thing to actually get their votes (they hold grudges for much longer and are anyway conservative leaning). It is indeed extremely hard for a host of reasons but any party must try it.… Read more »
Member

My point is to get these people votes then you have to prove yourself to be more anti-Roma, anti-Semitic, anti-refugee than either Fidesz or Jobbik.

You have to be of the mindset which sees nothing wrong with domestic abuse… in fact, it is to be encouraged in order to keep them “uppity” women and kids in their rightful place (ie under the heel of “their men”)

You must prove that you want homosexuals to be swinging from the nearest post….

Etc, etc.

They are despicable human beings, a lost cause, beyond redemption and any decent politician should not be competing with the fascist regime and the neo-nazis for this vote because by doing so your own principles and morals will be thoroughly compromised.

BTW…I am also not sure it is correct to classify them as always being “economically poor”, look at the nazi scum that featured in the “Soros pig” photo….I know they were from Erdely but they also looked pretty much typical of middle/class rural Orbanistan and they certainly didn’t look they were down to their last kolbasz.

Marty
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“be more anti-Roma, anti-Semitic, anti-refugee than either Fidesz or Jobbik” This is a gross exaggeration. No, you don’t. But you do have to embrace them and love them like Pope Francis loves a diseased, otherwise repulsive human being. It’s a very difficult mental exercise for urban people – especially as rural people totally distrust and hate educated people from Budapest. I’m not saying it’s easy, or that compromises don’t have to be made along the way. You certainly cannot offend them or look down on them, they are extremely sensitive about it. It’s not hierarchy per se they hate (they accept that, they live under feudal circumstances) but that educated, urban, bourgeois way of life which is alien to the rural value system and way of life and which you represent as an urban person. But politics is all about – reasonable – compromises (which don’t undermine your image as a tough fighter who never compromises on his or her principles, you cannot come across as an approval-seeking pushover like the current crop of leftists). As to the poverty, soon average people in Erdély will be better off than average people in Hungary, certainly the “smarter ones” enjoyed a much… Read more »
Guest

In a way Hungary is still a Feudal state, very clear class distinctions – and the ruling Fideszniks and their helpers (teachers, lawyers, priests!!! etc) do evrything to keep it that way.

PS:
Another important point:
Even if many villagers are downtrodden bunko paraszt they still have the even poorer and even more uneducated Roma to look down upon …
We just passed through a “secluded” villagenearby, away from the main road and it was kind of crazy:
Many or most houses looking like ruins (but with a satellite dish) and a few real castles where people show off their wealth …
That’s another point I realised many years ago:
Rich Hungarians like to show off (which is frowned upon in Germany e g) and it doesn’t matter whether their money was inherited, legally earned or got by dubious or criminal acts …

Marty
Guest

They’re not rich. They are just consumers (so they have some shitty satellite dish, 15 year old used German car, IPhone etc.)

They spend money on stupid things so they seem to own “something” (which depreciates within a few years to literally nothing), but they are poor.

Instead of upgrading their heating system they buy a EUR 2,500 car from Germany which otherwise would end up in a German junk yard.

Does this make them rich or middle class? No.

Guest

I didn’t address those poor souls (some of my neighbours belong in this category) – there are some Hungarians that drive brand new Audi SUVs etc (often with a Greater Hungary sign) – they play in a different league.
And please don’t say anything against those “scrap cars” – I gave my old Astra to my wife’s son and he’s been driving it for several years to work every day and is quite happy with it!

Marty
Guest

German engineering, sure, they last forever, but the Germans themselves can’t do anything with them when they upgrade for a new one so they sell it for change so somebody will at least take it away from them.

Observer
Guest

Marty
Pls cut a bit on your “lefties-liberal” nonsense.
Note that economic development IS liberal, democratic and free. Relative as it may be in the far eastern, Chinese systems, it’s capitalism. No freedom no development no wealth.
Many of these settlements, not only in Hun, are economically unviable and dying out. More so in poor Hun where there are few middle size companies and the business environment is unfavorable due to beaurocracy, corruption, politics, etc.

Marty
Guest

The voters are not philosophy PhDs, they have zero ability to analyze parties and compare the results to textbook definitions. If they think a party is “liberal” then it’s “liberal”. Only perception matters. But since any party defines itself as “leftist” or “right-wing” people can navigate ideology quite well. Of course since the right-wing is traditionally much better at framing debates, see Lakoff, people much easier mention conceptions and values which they associate with the right-wing. One of the problems of the left-wing is that even their voters and the politicians themselves don’t know what they stand for.

Believe me when I mention “lefties” or “liberals” a rural voter knows exactly what, which party I mean and which party I don’t. And they just don’t like the world which they associate with leftists (“communists”) and liberals.

Also I wouldn’t involved China in a debate about Hungarian voters. Comparing China to Hungary it’s not even apples and oranges, it’s comparing a plastic chair to the Amazonas rain forest.

Guest

Ok, if you exchange “voters” by “those bunko paraszt” my wife would totally agree with you, Marty!
Now the question is:
How many of the rural Hungarians fit that description – and why?
PS:
Have you heard of the movie Idiocracy?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiocracy
Really fitting for Hungary?

Marty
Guest

It doesn’t matter. I only say these people must be embraced if the opposition hopes ever to govern.

Observer
Guest

I agree, but your narrative/message is not helping “embrace”, but is rather antigonising against the llibs who alone offer some economic solutionions to those bumpkins.

Observer
Guest

I’m talking about your persistent narrative here. I know that the simpletons subjected to it every day from the Fid media will believe it sooner or later. This is why i dislike your participation in this and apply some antidote.
As Ron rejoined below this is an economic reality where these simpletons are being duped instead of helped to adjust.

Marty
Guest
One of the problems with simple people is that their rationality is different from yours. For an educated person (or even an uneducated Chinese one) it would be pretty obvious to invest in education, be entrepreneurial, to network, go out and actively do something about their lives in order to improve, care about your environment, your health, your prospects, plan for the future. Simple people don’t want any of these, and certainly not to change. For them it doesn’t occur that in order to have a better life they might have to do something extra, something different. And you most certainly can’t force them to realize this truth (ie. that change is needed in their way of life). This is what SZDSZ was doing: telling people to suck it up, study, learn languages, improve skills, accept capitalism because there’s nothing else available. People hated that (partly because they knew that it’s probably true) and they will never again vote for liberals. Simple people want to live better but without changing – and this is what is offered by Orban or Trump. They tell those folks that you don’t have to study, you don’t have to learn languages, be conscious about… Read more »
Roderick Beck
Guest

Marty, rural Hungarians will eventually figure out there is no alternative to open, liberal society. There is no viable autocratic right wing alternative.

Marty
Guest

I’m sorry to disappoint. They won’t. Rural Hungarians, just as rural white working class people from Wisconsin or Kentucky will rather die quietly and early than to do much about their lives. They certainly won’t spend much time comparing possible political systems.

Most poor, simple people live outside history, they don’t care what the government does because the government never does anything in rural places (only powerful people always succeed to amass vast land holdings).

Just because you are a rational (in the traditional, bourgeois liberal sense), reflective person, an educated one, doesn’t mean poor, simple people think the same way. To the contrary, their logic is totally opposed to yours. They don’t want to come to great conclusions about how to organize a society. They want to have a better smartphone, a bigger car, cheap gasoline, eat a good goulash (pörkölt), brew some good pálinka and suchlike.

Orban, Trump, Erdogan know these people which is why they remain (relatively) popular among this constituency.

Guest

And that’s why Hungary will stay the poorhouse of the EU?
Of course Capitalists can always use these deplorables, whether in Hungary or the USA or …
Enjoy your desperate life!
So we Germans can count ourselves lucky – but of course it took the “Thousand Years” first before we woke up …

Member

“Thriveo… advertises itself, in its own English, as ‘No bullshit here. We build or enhance your strategy and engage in execution. We do not apologize for any inconvenience.'”

I took a quick look at Thriveo’s “Meet Our Team” section and was thrilled to learn that one of the executives is a former student of mine.

Good luck with the English, Mr. Papp.

Observer
Guest

OT

CCN reports today (Current Corruption News of Hun) :

Orban’s non-advisor A.Habony has an offshore co which doesn’t even have a web page, no known activity, but happens to be registered at the same room address as one of the Chinese companies selling the residents bonds.

Lajos Kosa’s wife has acquired a company which didn’t have any assets/activities before. After the acquisition Kosa tabled an amendment to the legislation dealing with pensioners’ cooperatives. The company thereafter showed assets of over 130 mil Ft and became involved with pensioners in the Ukraine (rumors have it that ethnic Hungarians from the Ukraine obtain Hun addresses and apply for much higher Hun pensions under existing bilateral agreements).

Ron
Guest

In reply to wolfi7777 and Marty’s comment of around 9.35/955am this morning. Today ACEA the European Automobile Manufacturers Association published the Passenger Car Registration (new registrations) for 11 months (January to November) . Hungary is doing quite well. Having 105,000 new registrations compare to 87,000 last year (increase 21%).

http://www.acea.be/uploads/press_releases_files/20171214_PRPC_1711_FINAL.PDF
http://www.acea.be/press-releases/article/passenger-car-registrations-4.1-over-11-months-5.9-in-november

However, compare to other countries with similar population than Hungary is not doing well at all.