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robert fairhurst
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DAVID SADE
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If I may make my comments on AMBASSADOR ELENI KOUNALAKIS ON HER YEARS IN HUNGARY, PART III: “….Others correctly pointed out that no country has the right to tell another one what to do and what not to do…” » This is not entirely true… It would be valid only if the countries involved are true democracies. “…The blame, these people argued, lies with the Hungarian electorate that handed Fidesz a super-majority, which enabled Viktor Orbán to enact about 700 laws in the course of four years. Most of these laws chipped away at the democratic achievements of Hungarian lawmakers between 1990 and 2010…” » Thus the blame cannot be put at the feet of the Hungarian electorate, as all democratic means to change the regime were taken away… “…Admittedly, Brussels could have been more forceful when it came to the generous subsidies that ended up in the pockets of Viktor Orbán’s oligarchs. In fact, in large measure it was the European Union that kept Viktor Orbán in power over the past five years…” » So again, if the US and the EU new all about the deeds of the Orban regime why indeed provided, and still providing, the financial… Read more »
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I agree with your analysis, on the whole, and I think what you say is very important. I was talking to a friend the other day, about how Hungary is on the brink of being (quite rightly) ousted from the EU. And why? Because of the double-edged problem here, as you have observed. It’s not just that we have a megalomaniac PM – the likes of him will always be around, like Hitler, Hussein, Amin, to name a few from elsewhere – but there is something intrinsically at odds about Hungarians, regarding democracy. When Kertész Imre, nobel prize winning author of “Fateless”, was interviewed by La Monde a few years ago, he observed that Hungarians have always been torn about whether they belong to the East, or to the West and as a consequence, have always suffered from confused values. So no wonder they don’t understand what democracy means, even those who are educated citizens and have travelled and lived in the West. This conflicted value syndrome runs deep here. And now I think the EU is beginning to understand this problem, and that even when Orbán will no longer be the PM (let’s hope that happens soon) the mentality… Read more »
rpdhun
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David Sade, I would like to ask a few questions about your comment:
1. What is your terminology for “True democratic country”?
2. What are the the laws achieved by the governments between 1990-2010 that the Orban government chipped away from?
3. What is your proof that the subsidies ended up in the pockets of Victor Orban’s oligarchs?
4. What do you base on your statement that the Orban government would collapse within a week without subsidies? Just recently, even the IMF admitted they were wrong about the Hungarian efficacy of the economy governance and praised its achievements. How could that be possible with all of the “corruption” that you claim? Corrupt countries usually go broke like Venezuela.
5. How could be Martonyi irrelevant if he convinced foreign diplomats of Hungary’s good intentions? What is hard to swallow, your hate towards the Hungarian government?
6. What are the tools of democracy that were taken away by the Hungarian Government?
7. Why do you hate the Hungarian government so much? Do you hate its success? Were you one of the corrupt benificiary of the governments before 2010, and you are upset because you cannot receive corrupt money
anymore?
I would kindly appreciate your decent answers to these questions.

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If you read just one of the entries in this blog you’d find enough info. But I’LL ask you one question: How did Mészaros e g make his money? Can you explain that?
And how did Orbán’s family finance its many possessions?

rpdhun
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…and how did Gyurcsany make his millions? He bought the KISZ properties for pennies on the dollar so to speak. The whole article is fake news.

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Just like Orbán’s father?

To succeed her you have to show more intelligence …

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Buying assets in Hungary for “pennies on the dollar” was the result of business nouse and opportunism, at a time when economics in Hungary was in flux, immediatley after the fall of communism.

But there is a huge difference between opportunism and theft.

Gyurcsány did not steal money from the EU, which was earmarked for hospitals and schools, as Orbán is doing in order to enrich his family and friends, such as yourself.

And your silly lack of understanding what Fake news really means is just another example of how Orbán’s Hungarians cannot tell the difference between what is real and what is not, and between right and wrong- as I have said before, a nation of confused values.

And since you enjoy asking questions, I hope you will permit one from me?
Question: What does rpdhun stand for?
Is it “rather poor deductive Hungarian”?

Kmetty Geza
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Russia want to deliver weapons to Mexican/Texan separatists if US will send weapons to Ukraine.

Received this news item from Hungary:

A Kelet-Nyugat szembenállás újabb frontjaként Moszkva támogatja Texas függetlenségi mozgalmát.

Ha Washington még több fegyvert szállít Ukrajnának, akkor a Kreml modern fegyvereket fog leszállítani mexikói gerilláknak.

De mi köze Texasnak az Osztrák-Magyar Monarchia bukásához?

http://privatbankar.hu/makro/uj-frontot-nyitottak-az-oroszok-meg-ebbe-is-kepesek-beleavatkozni-282968

Sandor
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I read few articles and few comments on this site , saidly is very one sided and have the filling that most of these people who think they are so smart on they comment would like Hungary as a nation to be wiped out by the liberal Gyurcsany group fonded by The Soros Machine. Unfortunately no politician is able in the world to resolve everybody’s issue , one thing for shure if you are a patriot today you are number one enemy for the brainwashed multicultural media bull what will self distroy with time the european culture and with time maybe the american as well. The ideological politicians in europe paid of by the globalist they are not in the best interest of they own nation and if somebody try to do something diferent gets demonized by the rest. It is tipical in the western world when even saying the thruth if does not serve the agenda of the Big Family then you are not serving the system so you are no good . I wonder who is writting these columns from where they get they funds and when they look in the miror what they think about them self.… Read more »
A. S. Szollosy
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That is the shame, that Sandor is also Hungarian.

petofi
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Eva,
The new format–last is first–destroys the logical development of bloggers’ comments.

Bende Károly
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Hello! Even the Austrian court ruled for correction on this matter http://hungarianspectrum.org/tag/martin-schulz/ maybe you should do some corrections also. The photo you have attached to the article is misleading, because it is not true. No such thing happened. This is what happened: https://youtu.be/j0oxkS6F_hw If you want your readers to believe that you are trustworthy – just to say: your article is totally based on misleading lies – you will admit that you have posted an image that was taken and spread only for manipulation. Waiting for your correction.
Thank you! Karoly

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I do not understand in what context you are posting the train track protest you tube video?

But in any case, here is another video, which shows clearly the charming manners of Fidesz supporitng Hungarians-

Honest Spectator
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Hi all
Your Media is as biased as all the others. Why do you all want to play ‘follow the others” when you should start your own Independence. Do not sell off your assets because the Press and others want you too. Keep as much as possible for your own Independence, as otherwise your country will not be an Independent country, but ruled by whosoever has gained control of all your assets.
Think of your Country first. You paid your taxes, you do not owe anyone else anything. Whoever disagrees with you on the above is trying to cheat you and steal from you.
If you disagree with the agricultural sectors management, try co-operatives.
Always remember that your citizens paid their taxes fairly, they should not be deprived of their taxes in the future for their own benefits – by people who are just stirring the pot

Geppo
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As an italian with hungarian relatives i’m curious about your country and i find a lot of similarities with the iitalian present situation nd common problems.
I try to refer to real data as far as possible. I believe there is little point in being too emotional about your and our situation but discussing can help a lot.

As an example :Reporters sans frontieres ranks hungary well before italy in freedom of the press.
This surprised me but looking at the italian side it seems logical.

TKT
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“For him, the dates 1956, 1989, and 2016 reveal a pattern: Hungary becomes an important player on the world stage every 30 years or so. His closing the borders of the country in 2016 can be compared in significance to the revolution of 1956 or the end of the one-party system in 1989. ” I DO NOT KNOW MUCH ABOUT HUNGARIAN POLITICS AND VIKTOR ORBAN SINCE I DEFECTED 33 YEARS AGO. HOWEVER, ORBAN’S DECISION TO CLOSE THE BORDER WAS A HISTORICAL MOMENT AND FUTURE HISTORIANS WILL REMEMBER THIS. THIS IS INDEED AS SIGNIFICANT AS 1989. ORBAN SEAS THE REFUGEE CRISIS AS IT IS: AN EXISTENTIAL THREAT TO EUROPE. IN THIS, HE IS RIGHT.

Oliver A. I. Botar
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I was interested in your response to my comment (penned long, long ago, when I was still a student!) that Hungary could ill-afford the rise of Protestantism in the early 16th century was a comment made from a Catholic perspective. While I did grow up Catholic (in Edmonton, Alberta — but in a family with a long-standing Unitarian tradition), I was not suggesting that the Reformation was a bad thing, merely that internal divisions (of any kind, really), were not to Hungary’s advantage at the time. I think this is an obvious enough position to take. In fact, I believed at the time (the early 1980s), and still believe, that Hungary’s religious diversity, indeed complexity is one of the culture’s saving graces, for it has worked against a monolithic religious, and therefore political culture. Ethnocentrism, nationalism and xenophobia are strong enough forces pushing Hungary in a mono-cultural direction.

mary laczko
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Please look for genes that hungarians have that other europeans don’t. It will tell you nothing to see what genes Hungarians have in common with others.

Geza bacsi!
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Your arrogance deserve an LFS!
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Genius Loci
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Alap, hogy közterületek nevét (pl. Szabadság tér) NEM fordítjuk le, a Liberty Square baromság, nincs ilyen, legalábbis Magyarországon, Szabadság tér van, legrosszabb esetben Szabadság Square.

Genius Loci
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A Magomed pedig Mogamed, a Mohamed oroszos kemény h-s kiejtésű változata. Az Index buta firkászai szokás szerint baromságokat írnak.

Jogfosztott
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Éva you are such a pathetic ulta-leftlib faschistoid dictator who is unable to practice what you preach; free speech and freedom of expression and free flow of idea’s. You are a little-hitler, little-stalin, little-rakosi and a major soros crony that is a political prostitute. I demand that you delete your ban list and restore everybody’s free commenting right. Should you not do it your side does not deserved to be on-line. You got 48 hours to act.

Ferenc
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Jogicske,
You take ALL your disrepectful words BACK, you know yourself the ones!
And come back with just one real argument, before anything can be discussed with you.

I_reborn
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Eva it is time to either bring your blog under the free commenting rules by eliminating censorship and free all blocked commenters, or close the blog down all together. The choice is yours but the time to make the right one is running out.

You are masquerading in the role of Jeanne d’Arc – Joan of Arc of democratic values while your own blog is under fascist rules. Isn’t that a bit of irony?

Eva this my the last request to open up your blog to everybody or you will find it on a collision course that will bring it down. Do not blame me for the demise of your ultra left-lib hateful invasions propaganda machine when it dies because of your stubbornness.

I_reborn
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Could this be just an oversight that my access is not blocked (yet)? Or possibly the beginning of a truce? If the later than I thank you Eva for a ray of hope that you will allow free and civil debating on the site for everybody?

Please reply accordingly for the benefit of all. Also advise if and when I will be allowed back under my real name and e-mail address to join the lucky group of your followers (as I do not get any notification until I am disguised)

Respectfully,

I_reborn
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Sorry Eva B.S. for missing the tenth anniversary celebration of your blog, but I had something more pressing then elevating the quality of the comments to a higher level with my opinion. Please accept my belated congratulation for being able to maintain the blog for such a long time with the financial help of the Soros foundation. It must be a great feeling to be continuously rewarded for your hard work. There is an eloquent explanation of two Hungarian words that I would like to share with you and your faithful followers. SZERETET … szer-etet (nurtures) and GYŰLÖL … gyűl-öl (kills). I guess your uncontrollable hatred against everything happening in the „illiberal” Hungary must be taking its toll on you. I admire the devotion you are displaying every day to unmask the wrongdoings of the Orban government. While I am missing your recognition of the goods which would give the appearance of impartiality to your blog I am not surprised by the absence of such. What I would really read from you (I am an optimist) a sensible explanation of how it is that in spite of all the nasty actsthis government supposedly doing the Country is still running smoothly,… Read more »
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I am an avid admirer and regular reader and contributor to HS and I am not paid by Soros. Why do you say such lies?

robimorri
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You should be. You deserve it 🙂

robimorri
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Just joking. Nobody deserved to be paid for being an avid admirer and regular reader and contributor to HS

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I would feel honoured to be paid by an ethical philanthropist such as Soros, but sadly Orbán admirer are incapable of distinguishing between right ad wrong, and instead steal EU funds, rather than direct it towards hospitals and schools.

I would far rather spend time in the company of gentlemen such as Soros, then with criminals and liars of the Orbán fraternity who admire rapists such as Trump, and murderers such as Putin and Erdogan. Crazy Hungarians indeed, with their confused values.

robimorri
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Next time in Budapest please ask around about your idol on Hollan Ernő utca, especially in the first two blocks. You can learn a lot ..

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I am not interested in Orbán anti-Soros propoganda, and I am baffled as to how any adult can believe such state propoganda.

Sarolta
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I am Hungarian and have recently done my DNA test which proves that we are not only sharing linguistics but also genetics with Finland 5.4% Scandinavian, the Gypsies are not Hungarians, they came from India, again my DNA results prove this as my father’s mum was half Gypsy and my DNA shows that I am 13.2% Indian. I have no DNA from Kazakhstan or from Mongolia, whatsoever.

Newbee
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Interesting information. But without a link it is not clear what it is responding to.
Also what places are recommended to have these DNA tests performed?

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