The grandest fireworks of Europe

Despite the COVID-19 pandemic, the Hungarian Tourist Agency announced that, although the Sziget Festival and some of the music festivals normally held during the summer will be canceled, the “grandest fireworks of Europe” will be held on August 20th, the day of Saint Stephen, one of Hungary’s three official national holidays. The event will not only be the most spectacular in the recent history of the holiday but also the most expensive.

The celebrations will go on for three days, costing 6.5 billion forints, or €18.4 million. The fireworks alone will cost one billion forints (€2.83 million), which is a great deal more than in the past years when on average they cost 222 million forints (€628,241).

Opposition to these extravagant plans was immediate. With the pandemic scare far from over, it is irresponsible to have huge crowds gather on the two banks of the Danube. In the last couple of months, Viktor Orbán has daily reminded the country about the marvelous job the government has done to keep the pandemic within bounds. He also praised the population’s disciplined behavior during the quarantine phase of the pandemic. To stage such a spectacle so soon after COVID-19 ravaged Europe is hard to justify. Social distancing would be impossible. Just the other day, 60 attendees at a wedding ended up in quarantine after a person who went to the reception was found to be infected.

Then there is the cost, especially in the midst of a recession and growing unemployment. The Orbán government is more than parsimonious when it comes to lending a helping hand to those who are unemployed and who, after three short months of meager unemployment insurance, will left high and dry, with neither income nor medical coverage. But it has no problem spending billions on self-celebration.

Let’s see what kinds of programs the Hungarian Tourist Agency has prepared for the holiday. Happy tourists who come to Hungary for the occasion can have a luxurious boat trip, with or without dinner, for between 5,2000 and 12,300 forints. During the fireworks a more elegant boat trip with sumptuous dinner choices will set one back 33,800 forints. But if that is not to the guests’ liking, they can take a boat trip at night, ending with an organ concert in St. Stephen’s Basilica, costing between 11,500 and 21,500 forints. If they want to celebrate outside of Budapest, they will have many choices: Balatonfüred, Balatonszemes, and Tihany, or Eger, Bakonybél, or Bábolna. Clearly, the tourist agency is ready to receive large crowds all over the country, but I have the sneaking suspicion that few foreign visitors will chance a trip to Hungary this year.

It didn’t take long for Gergely Karácsony to express his opposition to the fireworks display, which would involve closing off half of downtown Pest. In addition to the obvious criticism about the irresponsible cost, the mayor of Budapest objected to staging the fireworks on or near the Chain Bridge, which is in need of serious repair and strengthening. He pointed out that the report on the state of the bridge included the observation that holding the fireworks display on the bridge significantly added to the rusting of the metal parts and damaged the surface coating. He indicated that the city will do everything in its power to prevent the fireworks display from being staged anywhere close to the 171-year-old Chain Bridge, a national treasure and a symbol of Budapest.

The Chain Bridge, quite independently from the question of the fireworks, has been a bone of contention between the Orbán government and the Budapest city administration. Apparently, the bridge hasn’t had any repair work done on it since the 1980s, and from its ridiculously small budget Budapest cannot undertake such an expensive infrastructure project. Over the last ten years of Orbán’s rule, towns have lost a great deal of their income, and, under the guise of the pandemic, they were further deprived of their meager support from the central government.

During the tenure of István Tarlós, the city was promised 6 billion forints for the reconstruction of the Chain Bridge, which, compared to the superfluous and wasteful projects generously funded by the government just in the last few weeks, is a pitiful amount. But after the municipal election, the Chain Bridge became a symbol of the power struggle between Viktor Orbán and Gergely Karácsony, and, by all appearances, Viktor Orbán is adamant about breaking Karácsony’s backbone. The new mayor is popular, and Orbán looks upon Budapest and its voters as a threat to his reelection in 2022. At first, after the opposition won the municipal election, Orbán wasn’t sure how to handle this unexpected and unpleasant situation, but eventually he settled for a down-and-dirty fight. The country, he said, cannot afford a penny more than 6 billion forints for the Chain Bridge. The bridge is Budapest’s headache.

Today, however, government strategy took an unexpected turn. István Hollik, director of communication, announced that Fidesz is fed up with Karácsony’s haplessness. If there are further delays in starting the construction work, “Fidesz will ask the government to take over the job.” He threatened the city, pointing out that taking ownership of the bridge is only a question of a simple modification of the law.

On the surface, this Hollik comment does sound like a threat, but I suspect that Fidesz, which keeps close track of the pulse of public opinion, must have noticed what an independent polling company, Publicus Intézet, found and published today, indicating that not just the inhabitants of the capital but the population of the entire country is beginning to side with Karácsony and the city against the central government. According to the poll, only 19% of the population support the position of the Orbán government, with 76% against it. Even Fidesz voters are split on the issue: 45% would like to see a larger contribution against 49% siding with Fidesz. The situation is the same on the question of the fireworks. Only 22% want to hold the display and 75% do not. In this case, a very slight majority of Fidesz voters (51%) are against holding the “grandest fireworks of Europe.” Moreover, 64% of the adult population are convinced that the pressure by the Orbán government is a political strategy, which they consider unacceptable or at least unbecoming.

When I had almost finished this blog post, Gergely Karácsony was interviewed on “Egyenes beszéd,” where he told the reporters that he had received many messages from Fidesz politicians to the effect that “Viktor Orbán will take his foot off the brake if I give him a guarantee that I will not enter the race as a joint candidate for the premiership.” I get a certain satisfaction from seeing a scared Viktor Orbán.

July 3, 2020
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Gyula Bognar Jr
July 3, 2020 8:21 pm

The fireworks costs more than what is missing from the Budget for the Chain Bridge reconstruction.
I do not know if it can be done legally, but the City of Budapest could possibly prohibit activities within its borders. If it could be done, it should be done.

István
István
July 4, 2020 1:37 am

A possibility to prohibit activities within Budapest’s borders? Pretty much the opposite has been made law. The regime has a first choice where to perform activities above us citizens (or councils) and made even more restrictive conditions for some spots as Kossuth tér in front of parliament. It would be a “minor change of law” as well to ban all non-regime actions on chain bridge.

Michael Detreköy
Michael Detreköy
July 3, 2020 8:43 pm

Another lesson in deMOCKracy, in action.
The level of dysfunctionality without limits.

Misi bacsi
Misi bacsi
July 4, 2020 1:02 am

The “real” fireworks have already happened i.e. the poor results that the
Fidesz regime received in the recent public opinion polls, my favorite part of todays post.

István
István
July 4, 2020 2:04 am

I am very surprised that Orbán feels that threatened by Karácsony’s popularity that he blackmails him not to run for PM again. Where is FIDESZ propaganda that told us that Karácsony would be unfit to be mayor, just because wearing spectacles? But seen the surprising results that even in the smallest villages people understood that Orbán plays a dirty game with Budapest to punish the voters there for their decision he should be in fear. Are the propaganda messages that Hungary went out of the crisis in its own unbelievable brilliant way (behind nearly all North Eastern, Central Eastern and South Eastern countries including the non-EU-members) and economy will blossom even more than before the pandemic because of the genius of our PM (and we all know that only corruption and foreign companies were) missing the target? Does the majority of rural areas understand that their own lives contradict extremely the propaganda lies? If so the dictator has to fear indeed, that weakness even among FIDESZ voters could lead to a erosion of power and when not only a relative small majority is against the regime, as we experienced since 2014, but a vast majority, the regime will need to… Read more »

Ovidiu
Ovidiu
July 4, 2020 2:14 am
Reply to  István

“I am very surprised that Orbán feels that threatened by Karácsony..”

me too, only that not as much as you are since the only proof for it is Karacasony’s self-serving declaration, you’ve got to take it on faith

István
István
July 4, 2020 4:13 am
Reply to  Ovidiu

“you’ve got to take it on faith”?

No! It absolutely fits into the polls and how the regime acts. About half of FIDESZ voters have the same opinion as the opposition and are by this standing against their regime. Even in the heavy pro FIDESZ rural areas the propaganda doesn’t work any more! I am surprised about both, not only about the offer Karácsony revealed.

Ferenc
July 4, 2020 6:32 am
Reply to  István

“Even in the heavy pro FIDESZ rural areas the propaganda doesn’t work any more!”
I think that’s a little too much, imho propaganda doesn’t work in all cases.
In this case, with Karácsony, that what he is doing very good, is that he sticks to his own clear line. Karácsony tries to stay away from OV’s game of BS-ing, lying, etc, OV can never be beat in that field. 
Some here [you know who] try to push opposition to beat OV in his own game, that will be a losing game and is a waste of time. One can even question the purpose of those pushing…
So leave OV’s game to OV and stick for oneself to one’s own true belief.
Note that on the long run truth, very alien to OV, will overcome!

István
István
July 4, 2020 7:11 am
Reply to  Ferenc

Propaganda doesn’t work any more or not in all cases? All propaganda media need it to be seen as the source of ultimate truth. Free media are able to correct themselves in case of an error and this is highly valued by their users, since facts are more important than the earlier message. Propaganda can’t be rectified, since it is only about the message. If people understand that they were lied at they don’t take that propaganda outlet less and less serious. A good example is state TV news. They are today just a shadow of earlier importance. As soon as trust is eroding it will be very difficult to stop the erosion that again. And at this point we come to your last sentence “Note that on the long run truth, very alien to OV, will overcome!” It is a question of time, the sooner the better.

TrianonTrianon
TrianonTrianon
July 5, 2020 1:55 am
Reply to  Ferenc

Ferenc, head, nail, on, hits.

Stevan Harnad
July 4, 2020 6:06 am
Reply to  István

Further sabotaging of the “free but not fair” elections, too, “is only a question of a simple modification [or covert violation] of the law.”

The repeatedly expressed wishful thought that Orban is “scared” is only a symptom that the opposition is too decent to imagine the untold depths of wickedness to which Orban’s psychopathy is more than willing to plunge.

(This, by the way, is not a Marty-like swipe at the opposition. I don’t mean “decent” ironically. The (non-corrupt) opposition’s greatest virtue as well as its greatest liability is its steadfast decency, in contrast to the bottomless depravity of Orban and his oligarchs. “Marty” — who often opines that this decency is just urban intellectuality and latté — consciously or unconsciously yearns for (or is trying to incite) the opposition milksops to get down and dirty with the psychopath “to win over those o-joes”…)

István
István
July 4, 2020 6:50 am
Reply to  Stevan Harnad

I completely agree that Orbán will do everything to remain in power with all means, both according to selfish created law and with illegal manipulation. Orbán has surprised me again and again. I expected the worst I could imagine and he always topped that. Any decent human won’t be able to predict what the dictator will do next. But this is exactly what we need, a government formed by decent humans! We don’t need another selfish psychopath to replace Orbán, we need a good administrator instead, who is able to rebuild the country. We all know that Orbán believes in adjusting some policies according to polling results to keep the people calm, as long as it doesn’t endanger his rule or wealth. But why should he blackmail Karácsony not to run as PM if he is not scared by the polling results sustaining the mayor even in the centre of the FIDESZ base? Is Orbán scared that he needs to tell the world that he got 2/3 again MPs, against an overwhelming majority of opposition voters? Only 22% of the population is sustaining the plans of the giant fireworks, his most loyal rural voters sustain only by 20%! Only 27%… Read more »

Misi bacsi
Misi bacsi
July 4, 2020 3:56 pm
Reply to  Stevan Harnad

Stevan- I just want to thank you again for your poignant post several days ago about your family origins.

2bits4free
July 4, 2020 2:09 am

“…Orbán looks upon Budapest and its voters as a threat ….”

Is that why this year, the central government has not eradicated the annual summer mosquito problem in Budapest?

A friend has just returned from Balaton and told me there were no mosquitoes there, but she immediately became a snack for the mozzies upon returning to Budapest.

I have not seen the little yellow planes which disperse the chemicals from above, making life bearable for city dwellers in the summer, so this year we are overwhelmed by mosquitoes. Is it due to lack of funds Karácsony receives for his work, or because Orbán is deliberately punishing the entire city of Budapest for not voting Fidesz?

Does anybody know anything about the pesky mosquito situation, since even little bugs seem to be a political issue for Orbán. And if that is the case, then it shows a remarkable level of vindictiveness.

D7 Democrat
D7 Democrat
July 4, 2020 2:17 am

“….he told the reporters that he had received many messages from Fidesz politicians”

I would be careful, if those boys telll you today is Saturday, doublecheck your diary just to make sure, like their corpulent corporal they are born liars.

Talking of Fat Vik, rest assured if the fireworks and the accompanying health risk do take place, the biggest coward in European politics will be nowhere to be seen. Ok to put the plebs at risk, The Fearless Leader will be holed up in a bunker somewhere

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wolfi7777
July 4, 2020 3:00 am

We know that Fidesz has never been a friend of the Marxist globalist liberal latte sipping Budapesters … They are too well informed about what’s going on in Hungary, compared to the average joes in the sh*thole villages in Eastern Hungary. End of rant … So O1G is trying everything to spoil the relation between the inhabitants of Bp and their Mayor – but maybe he’s taking the wrong way, being too overconfident. I just looked again at the consultation paper with its crazy rhetorics against “Hungary’s enemies” – Whytf don’t they just leave the darned EUSSR? Good riddance! But maybe this is the end of the Fidesz regime because even the average joes start to realise that there’s something wrong. Experience from other European countries and the USA already shows the dangers of these mass concentrations of people – and we know that safety measures like wearing masks and washing your hands have no priority for party goers. Thinking people will stay away – those who come to those fireworks to have some fun (and lots of alcohol) will be crazy enough not to care. Just think of one of those Florida beach parties multiplied by a thousand. OT:… Read more »

István
István
July 4, 2020 4:03 am
Reply to  wolfi7777

Wolfi, the production of the Smart is replaced to China. Hungary is still cheaper than France, but we don’t need wait to long for more factory replacements to Asia…. That’s the place where jobs for the low educated are brought.

Ambator
Ambator
July 4, 2020 3:55 am

… and Karácsony, while emphasising that he is proud and satisfied to be the ”lord mayor” of Budapest and that is his ambition, ultimayely slipped by the question and refused to give any assurance not to run for the position of joint opposition candidate.
If that scares Orban, that is very good, he should be scared and kept in constant panic, that is the fitting mental state for him. He is talking the big talk, but no longer has the big stick to wield.

Ferenc
July 4, 2020 5:15 am

OV plans “the grandest fireworks of Europe” and “has no problem spending billions on self-celebration”
 
OV&Co are a bunch of w*nkers, in all its meanings!
with OV ‘imselluf being Lord Serial W*nker!

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Bimbi
Bimbi
July 4, 2020 5:35 am

ON THE 96TH DAY OF THE INTERMINABLE, SELFISH ORBÁN DICTATORSHIP

we are to celebrate the deaths of 588 citizens/residents of Hungary with € 18.2 Million in fireworks for the greater glory of our Dear Leader at a cost of  € 30,292/death. Cheap at the price, Viktor?

Michael Detreköy
Michael Detreköy
July 4, 2020 7:28 am
Reply to  Bimbi

Where were the Hungarians???

István
István
July 4, 2020 7:46 am

Here:
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Left side: Red means they want the “€ 18.2 Million in fireworks for the greater glory of our Dear Leader”, blue means they oppose.
Right side: Red means regime should give Budapest more money for chain bridge renovation, blue means they shouldn’t
Rows: Total, 5 party afflilates by partyname, other party affiliation, undecided voters, Budapest, county seats, rural towns, villages

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Michael Detreköy
Michael Detreköy
July 4, 2020 8:01 am
Reply to  István

So – If these positions are not directly reflected in parliament – “Where is Hungary?”

István
István
July 4, 2020 11:02 am

Hungary is still here, just ownership changed….

There were 53% of voters who voted for FIDESZ in 2010. By this result Orbán took Hungary as private property and left us back without any influence. 2014 and 2019 FIDESZ got less than 50% of the votes, but Orbán decided by manipulations to the electoral law and cheating that FIDESZ always wins general elections, regardless who gets the majority of votes. If the majority would decide over the PM Orbán could be voted out of office again. But with his defeat in 2002 he decided that this never might happen again.

Misi bacsi
Misi bacsi
July 4, 2020 3:58 pm
Reply to  István

Thanks for this chart regarding public opinion on fire woks,
chain bridge etc.

Stevan Harnad
July 4, 2020 6:40 am

As Trump & Orban stoke their sordid souls, people pay and animals die
https://www.animal-ethics.org/how-fireworks-harm-nonhuman-animals/

István
István
July 4, 2020 7:17 am
Reply to  Stevan Harnad

Fireworks are harmful to the entire environment, not only to animals.

https://www.terrapass.com/fireworks-impact-environment

Ovidiu
Ovidiu
July 4, 2020 9:31 am
Reply to  István

I guess so, but arson (in 150 cities across US) was certainly beneficial

István
István
July 4, 2020 11:05 am
Reply to  Ovidiu

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wrfree
wrfree
July 5, 2020 2:11 pm
Reply to  István

Re: SH and ‘Animal Ethics’..

We had fireworks in our area and we watched our Lab. Thx for the piece. He’s our third kid in the family. We could see how vigilant he was when the noise was on. He certainly did not like it. If Trump was in front of him I’d be worried that the ‘crackers might cause him to do something he would never ever normally do. 😎

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wrfree
wrfree
July 4, 2020 9:48 am

Re: that ‘Bridge of Sighs’

A smashed violin upside the pylon would complete the picture which is one of obvious gross neglect. Attentive tourists seeing it could ask themselves what civilization made it. To them its ‘ruinous’ quality more than likely presents the country as an ‘elderly’ long – lived state. And long – lived states can ‘look’ like that in its architectures. Little do they know it is simply a facade hiding a decadence inhabiting a government which ultimately is responsible for making the bridge appear a sad, tawdry ruin.

If the tourists go over to Hosok Ter and if they look closer maybe the water coming out of ‘conquistador’ eyes might help to position the country’s history and where they’ve wound up. But first no doubt ‘real’ palacsinta and gulyas and cimbaloms only await tourists expecting a good time in a runaway ‘democratic’ country.

Magyarorszag: excellence in providing the best of lace-curtained tourism and any old ‘rock’n’roll music. They know what works. The great ‘hoodwink’ is on.

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wrfree
wrfree
July 4, 2020 10:12 am
Reply to  wrfree

https://youtu.be/IRF6nmqcbxo

Played this at Margitsziget back when the ‘Fab Four’ were ‘it’ and Kadar was in. Nice crowd . They loved the sing – song and moved like ‘vapor’ to the beat. It ‘meant’ something then. Like ‘revolutions’. The message was exactly as the lyrics. Nothing more nothing less.

Today? Like the commies the illiberalists know and have such a heartfelt closeness to a good ‘Western’ invention when they see one that ‘works’. Good for a couple of forints and palinka makers too..☝️

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wolfi7777
July 4, 2020 10:36 am
Reply to  wrfree

The desolate state of the Lanchid reminds me of my shock when around 10 years ago I came to Budapest to visit my wife’s son who with his then girlfriend (now wife) lived with her mother in the city center.
The old house, 4 floors, former large apartments subdivided into “chicken pens” as my wife called them still had gun or cannon traces in the wall and the facade was broken into so many pieces. And the neighbouring houses looked the same of course – horrible!
Of course I had seen similar things in East Berlin – in the early 90s, but in the new century?

The only good point in that street was the Jewish (but not kosher …) restaurant Fülemüle where we had a really good lunch. 🙂 🙂

Misi bacsi
Misi bacsi
July 4, 2020 4:02 pm
Reply to  wolfi7777

Thanks Wolfi for the personal and very relevant family story. While the regime builds useless football stadiums and/or auto race tracks, many other parts of society are neglected i.e. housing, schools, hospitals etc.

wrfree
wrfree
July 4, 2020 4:04 pm
Reply to  wolfi7777

Re: the ‘chicken pens’. Yes I remember going to one (not sure of the street now) when visiting one of my ‘lost’ uncles. Reminded me of Alcatraz only without the ‘bars’. Buda came off to me nice , hilly and urban-rustic but right Pest was something else. Kind of dilapidated in the late 60’s. Saw sometimes pockmarks on buildings that were no doubt ‘leftovers’ from a recent ‘skirmish’. Jani sure didn’t like architecture. He didn’t build any apartments. No money probably. Again like in ‘Casablanca’ people had to wait and wait and wait for an apartment. How many years was it to get one? 😎 Families in Pest lived in claustrophobia. That had to be like an urban oven baking craziness within everybody as they hung on each other’s neck under one roof. I mean you had a few generations living there in one apartment. Great you got something good to eat for your lunch. A culinary improvement. In those olden Kadar days we filled up early at 6am before going out to see the sights. Had to be like kangaroos stuffing food in our pouches before hitting the streets and suburbs. Hardly any etterems to serve us aliens from… Read more »

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Bimbi
Bimbi
July 4, 2020 10:19 am

Not really OT but,
In these days of the lucrative export trade in ventilators for COVID-19 patients, it seems that the Fidesz-Szijjártó cash-for-couches enterprise is facing some competition:

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/jul/04/uk-manufacturers-to-export-surplus-medical-ventilators

insofar as UK manufacturers are unloading their excess production. In the UK “occupancy of medical ventilator beds reached a peak of 3,301 in April (for a population of over 60 Million), indicating that demand peaked at less than half of the UK’s pre-pandemic capacity of nearly 9,000” and now there are another 14,000 to be exported.

Perhaps enterprising Fidesz companies can offer to scrap Hungary’s excess at € 20,000/unit, so that should keep the profit margin respectable.
Like the song says, “My God, how the money rolls in, rolls in, my God how the money rolls in.”

Bimbi
Bimbi
July 4, 2020 12:30 pm

APR 24, 2020   From Zoltan’s Pox risible blog: “In his radio interview this morning”:   “PM Orbán: We are prepared and will not give up on a single Hungarian life” And then all of a sudden, THEY give up on 588 of them (not counting the foreign guy who had pancreas inflammation and an alcohol-damaged liver, who was No. 7 on the Death List) and still counting… “PM Orbán pointed out that in the current situation, it is the government’s responsibility to create the proper circumstances under which not a single life is lost.” Dear Leader, where did it all go wrong for your government, or was this just meaningless waffle and politically-convenient bullshit? “The goal of Hungary’s defense has been to gain enough time to acquire the necessary equipment, retrain doctors” – Yeah, like we know and they don’t. “…we have flattened the epidemic’s curve” Anyone know what he meant by this? Does he even know what he meant? “The second Soros plan has been made”, Orbán continued. Yup, I have to play my Anti-Semitism card every chance I get… [It was about this time that Gergely Gulyas announced that the coronavirus “peak” would be between the middle of June and the… Read more »

wrfree
wrfree
July 5, 2020 2:26 pm
Reply to  Bimbi

Re the letter…

‘Orbán highlighted the US’s sheltering many Hungarians that had to flee their homeland, and said that Hungarian-Americans are a strong link between the two nations’

It’s tough to see though how all that overflowing Trump-Orban reciprocated lovefest interferes in the relationship in a lot of ways. This side of the pond puts many things in different light as the blinkers come off. Startling to say the least in what’s seen.

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2bits4free
July 5, 2020 3:58 am

I think the main reason for Orbán staging “the grandest fireworks of Europe” is to show Karácsony that rather than supporting the Mayor of Budapest, Orbán can spend tax payer’s money as he likes. The scale of it is a vindictive and malicious statement of resentment and hauteur, because Fidesz has been booted out of a key position- ie the leadership of the city. As has been pointed out in a previous HS article in which the young Orbán was described as someone who is easily offended, ‘ombrageux’ – meaning takes umbrage, and in his case with emphasis on the last four letters, rage. He was enraged when he lost a previous election, and he trashed his office and called out police helicopters to fly over the city, to show the good citizens who had the sense to oust him, how ‘ombrageux’ he was. He is enraged, and sits seething day after day, that his party (and therefore he personally) is not in charge of Budapest. He has withdrawn almost all monetary support for anything which Karácsony tries to achieve as Mayor, and what better opportunity to display and exercise his rage than by spending the billions which should have helped… Read more »

Bimbi
Bimbi
July 5, 2020 4:15 am
Reply to  2bits4free

@2bits4free, 3:58am
Well said!

wolfi7777
July 5, 2020 5:49 am
Reply to  2bits4free

I’m still hoping that all the average joes in Budapest will not only see what kind of mafia Fidesz represents but also tell their relatives in the countryside about O1G’s vindictiveness.
So in the end this display of extreme hate against his own people might lead to his downfall – the beginning of the end.
As I’ve said often my wife and her family detest and abhor Fidesz – and sometimes even laugh about them There are still a few stand-up comedians like Bödöcs – hope I got his name right?
If however nothing happens fighting against this successfully, Budapest will be like one gigantic “rom kocsma” – remember them?
The economy will get even worse and …
PS and not too much OT:
My wife just told me that some people are saying that the second wave of the pandemic has already started in Hungary …
Justlike in Trumpistan.

István
István
July 5, 2020 9:30 am
Reply to  wolfi7777

Re: 2nd wave. If you look at the daily new cases they are relative low since a few weeks and the active cases are slowly declining (see https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/hungary/). Sure, we don’t know anything else but the information officially released. But even taken this into the account it doesn’t seem to be a high increase at the moment. At the moment people got that careless (wearing masks under the mouth or taking them off when they passed security at shops, huge crowds everywhere, because here it is safe, we aren’t abroad or in Budapest) that we have to be prepared for a 2nd wave, probably sooner than later.

Trump did it just different. While still spreading heavily Trump told to stop with any measure in favour of the economy. So he helped the virus and the 1st wave never ended.

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Ferenc
July 5, 2020 10:01 am
Reply to  István

RE: official corona data
example in “OV friendly” HU neighbor country:
–Jun.22 article about under-reporting
https://balkaninsight.com/2020/06/22/serbia-under-reported-covid-19-deaths-and-infections-data-shows/
–possible reason for under-reporting were the parliamentary election held Jun.21 [boycotted by many parties and therefore won by the governing coalition
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Serbian_parliamentary_election
–Jul.03 article about “OV friendly” president [tries to] dismiss other data
https://balkaninsight.com/2020/07/03/vucic-dismisses-birn-report-on-covid-19-figures-in-serbia/

wrfree
wrfree
July 5, 2020 10:27 am
Reply to  Ferenc

The ‘song’ in Trumpistan…

https://youtu.be/u9MLhJ5MjIQ

A fool running the country in a mesmerizing doze of mumbling bubbling insanity. Each day of doing his wreckage more and more of the American ‘dream’ and ‘experiment’ gets destroyed with his demented ‘leadership’. Completely oblivious and AWOL from pure reality as cases and deaths rise and Americans are now quarantined from the world. November cannot come sooner to rid the country of this raging nationalist who stokes division and increased contempt for US institutions and democracy.

At this point anything ‘left’ is fascist. The right? Nationalists of the ‘good’, the ‘just’ , the ‘sacred’ and of course allied to ‘freedom’. And we know where this mantra has led before.

Internet comment seen on the object who only works for himself in the White House ..

‘He is of two brains.
In the left, there’s nothing right.
In the right, there’s nothing left’

Not encouraging in one now a dangerous leader of the ‘free world’.

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István
István
July 5, 2020 9:12 am
Reply to  2bits4free

Very correct description of the dictator and his ugly traits. Just it wouldn’t be “supporting the Mayor of Budapest”, but supporting all inhabitants of Budapest or in case of the chain bridge supporting all Hungarians and even all humans, because it is a common heritage, not the property of the mayor.

wolfi7777
July 5, 2020 9:53 am

OT:
Our young ones visited us today and we had a very nice lunch -my wife made töltöt paprika, fantastic!
And for dessert we had our own málna and meggy from the neighbour …
And then we heard an unbelievable story:
As part of the Erzsebet programme children (from poor families?) are sent in summer to camps near the Balaton.
And this year they are supposed to answer some kind of survey with questions at the end about their families:
How many rooms in the place where you live?
Do you have your own room?
How are the relationship to your parents and your siblings?
Also questions on the family’s financial situation …
Seems there’s already a shitstorm on the internet re this.
has anybody here more info?
my wife doesn’t even want to talk about this, she’s so angry …

wolfi7777
July 5, 2020 12:58 pm
Reply to  wolfi7777

Don’t remember if we had this already.
And the beat goes on …
The young ones also told us about that woman who “desecrated” a Horthy statue with paint – so the Fiswz mafia journalists published her name, address, social media data and now she gets death threats.

wolfi7777
July 5, 2020 4:22 pm

Again re the idiocy of those fireworks:
Twenty years ago when I had my holiday home in Hungary I would go there shortly after Xmas – because my dog was so afraid of them and Hungarians didn’t have that much money for them.
Over the years of course it became worse and on Jan 2 when we went shopping at the Aldi in Keszthely the big parking site always had several lonesome dogs which had fled their owner’s places and couldn’t find their way home.
Most people left and still leave their dogs outside even at that time, the dog of one of neighbours even died – trying to get over the fence.
Horrible!
Of course not every Hungarian is like that but there are too many who treat their animals like ***expletive deleted*** – which is a sign for us to minimize contact with them!

Ovidiu
Ovidiu
July 5, 2020 4:50 pm
Reply to  wolfi7777

4th July, spontaneous fireworks, quite a show

https://twitter.com/mattdizwhitlock/status/1279651993469030401

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wolfi7777
July 6, 2020 4:02 am
Reply to  Ovidiu

Ovidiot, everybody knows that there are as many (or more …) idiots in the USA that don’t care for other people, their environment, their animals …
But what is the connection to Hungary here, a**hole?
You should go to breitfart or wherever with your stupidity!