Yesterday, Ádám Topolánszky, the devoted Trump fan, tried to convince his Hungarian readers in Magyar Nemzet of the incredible successes of the years 2016-2020 under Donald Trump’s presidency. The arrival of the COVID-19 pandemic, he said, was the only reason that the president’s odds of reelection have been considerably reduced. Topolánszky is still hopeful, however, about the Republicans’ chances in the U.S. Senate, where “they could block Democratic legislative actions even if Trump didn’t manage to be reelected.”
By today, Magyar Nemzet decided to turn to a more scholarly source of information on the prospects of the two candidates. They asked Balázs Mártonffy, an instructor of political science at the National Civil Service University and a recipient of the John McCain Dissertation Award, to share his thoughts with the readers. He noted that if Trump loses Florida and Pennsylvania, “he has only a very slight chance of winning.” For the first time, the paper also provided a colorful map of the United States, detailing the total number of electoral votes (538) that are up for grabs and predicting 217 for Biden and 126 for Trump, as things stand now, noting that the winner needs at least 270. After weeks of misleading reporting on the state of the campaign, Magyar Nemzet, it seems, decided to come clean.
Magyar Hírlap today published an op-ed piece by a theologian, according to whom the choice is “between the noxious swamp of consumer society and the wonderful land outlined by Donald Trump,” which is “built upon the sacred image of Almighty God.” He is certain that “we need Donald Trump, the president of life, who professes that ‘all life brings love to this world.’” I wondered whether perhaps our theologian mixed up Donald Trump and his vice president, Mike Pence. Another article, based for the most part on MTI’s reporting, stuck closer to the facts. It quoted Trump as saying that he is the sure winner but noted that “according to most polls he is trailing behind Biden.” So, it seems, the government propaganda machine, on election day, decided to present a more balanced picture of the presidential campaign.
Admittedly, it is a bit late, but in last few days the Hungarian media has been giving useful information about the fine points of the U.S. electoral system as well as the personalities involved. Even people who, in my opinion, are much better informed than the talking heads on the government side display incredible ignorance when it comes to American politics. A good example was a discussion of left-of-center opinion makers on a new ATV program called “Five” (Öt), during which I heard from Péter Konok, a historian, that there is no difference between Trump and Biden; from András Hont of HVG that dangerous socialism will come to America if Biden wins; from Róbert Puzsér of Magyar Hang that Biden is senile; and from Zoltán Ceglédi, a political analyst, that all American politicians are too old and therefore not up to the task.
24.hu published two articles, one on “the populist” Trump and “the conservative” Pence, which introduces the current vice president to the Hungarian public. Hungarians are quite well informed about the idiosyncrasies of Trump, but they know nothing about Pence. The article claims, not without reason, that the two are monumentally different and that “the left can’t decide which one they hate more.” The other article is a dual portrait of the Democratic team, “Biden and Harris: The past and the future.”
In addition, there is an assessment of Trump’s four years in the White House by Ildikó D. Kovács. As far as I can see, the essay is based on analyses by Robbie Gramer in Foreign Policy (“Trump’s Foreign-Policy Adventures Haven’t All Flopped”) and Rohan Hande in The Atlantic (“The World Order That Donald Trump Revealed”). In any case, so far 24.hu has made the best effort to acquaint the Hungarian consumers of internet news with U.S. politics.
The most obvious Hungarian site for U.S. political news is the newly launched Szabad Európa, a project of Radio Free Europe. It has turned out to be an excellent internet site, which, unlike many others, is easily navigable. Separate headings are devoted to the pandemic, Belarus, the European Union, the economy, healthcare, education, corruption, culture, history, podcasts, infographics, and nature. As might be expected, news from the United States is well covered. Since it came into existence on September 8, Szabad Európa has published more than 30 articles on the U.S. election. The latest is a photo essay of Americans voting today.
November 3, 2020, a line in front of a polling station at a grammar school in Pennsylvania
By now, I’m sure, Europeans are fully aware of the millions of Americans who voted early, either in person or by mail. Of the 50 states, there are only four where citizens are unable to vote early in person: Connecticut, Mississippi, Missouri, and New Hampshire. Even though voters in Connecticut could request “no excuse” absentee ballots this year and mail them in, as a result of which one might have expected a reduction in the number of people who voted in person today, a larger crowd than usual was noticeable even in our sleepy little town. Although voter turnout in Connecticut is normally high (77% in 2016 and a record 93% in 1960 for the Kennedy-Nixon race) and our town regularly matches or beats the state average, today the traffic around town hall, where we all vote, was extraordinary. The large parking lot was full, so many people (including me) had to park on the adjacent road. Once inside, however, the operation was efficient. There were no lines, and voting took less than three minutes. However, I overheard an employee of Stop and Shop, the closest supermarket, complain that, although he tried to vote (probably in New Haven) before going to work, the line was too long. He will try again after work. Americans, it seems, consider this election to be a particularly important one and are eager to have a say in its outcome.
Very nice overview of Hungarian media on the US election, Eva. As of this moment, the election results are still uncertain. But regardless of the outcome, we should all remember this comment on the fivethirtyeight.com live election blog: “As we watch the results tonight, it’s important to keep in mind that in any other presidential democracy, this would not be a particularly close election. The only thing making this election so close is the Electoral College. Similarly, the only thing making the Senate so close is the small state bias. If Trump ekes out an Electoral College victory, it will be the third time in six elections that a Republican has won the Electoral College and the presidency while losing the popular vote. Republicans have won the popular vote only once since 1988. And Republican senators have represented a majority of Americans only for one Congress in the past 40 years, despite having a Senate majority more than half that time.” In other words, Donald Trump would easily lose an election in any other country as his policies are not popular with the broader public, and it is only the odd quirks of the US system that make him a… Read more »
“in any other presidential democracy, this would not be a particularly close election” – first of all, it’s NOT A DEMOCRACY! There’s a big difference. Second of all, the EU and Orban – suck! The oligarchs are in charge of your lives. Massive shutdowns and economic woes! In the US, under Trump’s America – founding father America – personal responsibility dominates the agenda, at least in concept! Why would the US want to emulate Hungary, or the EU? It’s a disaster waiting to happen. Hey, check this out from one of our Hungarian hospitals! https://www.facebook.com/david.ronto.1293/videos/358275162144439
WTF is going on? It seems the polls were off, very significantly. This morning from NYTimes. Closed elections: Trump carrying OH by 8 points? Florida by 3.78%? and Texas by 6%? Even Iowa by 7 points? Except for TX these were all carried by Obama in his first election. Georgia and NC both traditional blue stats remained blue despite hopes that they might turn red this year. All bigger margins that predicted (“Could Democrats flip Texas?” as if the two parties were close etc. etc.. Wisconsin (at 78%) Trump leading by 4?, and PA Trump leading by a staggering 14% (at 68)? Michigan by 9 at (63%)? OK, the rural prescincts report first but still Trump is leading significantly. This is really bad because the numbers indicate that Biden could not surprisingly win any battleground state compared to polls. There has to be a very big self-criticism on the left if Biden still somehow wins the presidency (and especially if he loses) because this means that despite Covid, the economy Trump almost won again (but as he stands he could easily win reelection). Yes, I firmly believe that if there would be no COVID (with all it entails) then Trump… Read more »
And the corollary is that Orban is also probably stronger than he looks.
No question that his position is easing due to Covid-related economic issues but it’s not as though rural Hungarian voters suddenly got to like the opposition.
The messages of the opposition simply don’t resonate in rural Vas or Bács-Kiskun or Békés. They just don’t. Period.
People like Trump and Orban are literally beloved by masses of voters.
This fact gives them an extreme strength in many rural regions and given the first past the post (or not proportionate) election system this means that many regions simply cannot be flipped by the opposition no matter the message, the candidate.
We need to understand this phenomenon and again be critical with ourselves: why are not voters rational (well, they were never rational to begin with) and why do they just fanatically love their candidate and hate the left-wing opposition?
The “left-wing” must work much harder, be smarter, more strategic and disciplined.
tappanch here on September 11, 2020 6:00 am :
“Barr and Trump said that they would not recognize Biden’s victory if it is a close race.
On election night, Trump will declare victory, then will try to stop the counting of the mail-in ballots.
If Justice Ginsburg dies before January, Trump & his friends in the Senate can appoint a new Supreme Court member. The new majority can validate any cheating Trump will commit during & after the election.
When Trump says there will be cheating in the election – he knows.”
November 4, 2:30 AM
Justice Ginsburg died on September 18, and Trump just declared that the he is the winner, counting should stop, and he will call on the Supreme Court to stop it.
You were right. We need to see the logic of politics: What’s the downside for the GOP of doing these? Let’s face it: voters in stable red states don’t care about such antics. They will forever vote (the majority at least) conservative and right-wing. Voters are not rational. Apparently, voters in battle-ground states also don’t really care. Trump – despite al his scandals, incompetence etc. – deepened his support in Florida and Ohio, two of the most important swing states (it seems they are firmly Republican now, we shouldn’t call them swing sates at all). Trump may still end up losing, sure. But the point is that voters already voted, they can’t revoke their votes no matter what Trump does and the next election is two years away by which time people will forget all this chaos and fighting and trickery (they all know it’s part of politics, it’s dirty, noone is surprised). GOP is smart knowing that there is no downside: the SCOTUS is theirs (as are many lower federal courts), at worst they don’t win the court case but they may even win it. If there are no sanctions, no downside, you have to do it because it… Read more »
3:40 AM
Wisconsin. Trump’s lead: 101K, mail-in ballots not counted yet: 315K.
Michigan. Trump’s lead: 245K, mail-in ballots not counted yet: 1,118K.
Pennsylvania: Trump’s lead: 705K, mail-in ballots not counted yet: 1,304K.
Georgia: Trump’s lead: 102K, mail-in ballots not counted yet: 274K.
North Carolina: Trump’s lead: 77K, mail-in ballots not counted yet: 131K.
Arizona. Biden’s lead: 133K, mail-in ballots not counted yet: 501K
Nevada: Biden’s lead: 23K, mail-in ballots not counted yet: 211K
Outstanding ballots:
Wisconsin: 350K
Michigan: 1,449K
Pennsylvania: 1,734K
Georgia: 291K
North Carolina: 134K
Arizona: 618K
Nevada: 261K
Outstanding ballots/ winning margin:
WI: 3.5
MI: 5.9
PA: 2.5
GA: 2.8
NC: 1.7
AZ: 4.6
NV: 11.3
If Biden wins
Arizona, Nevada, Wisconsin & Michigan, 3/4 Maine, 1/5 Nebraska
but loses
Pennsylvania, Georgia & North Carolina, then
Biden – Trump: 270 – 268
Thanks, this is good news. The mail in ballots may easily flip many states (if they get counted).
Let’s hope and pray.
Still long term a party cannot afford not to carry either of FL, OH and PA.
Biden just took the lead in Wisconsin.
No new data from the other undecided states yet.
If Biden loses Nevada, he must win Pennsylvania.
I am going crazy!
Keep your eyes on Michigan!
Trumps lead melted down from 1,2 to 0,2% in the last minutes.
It is going to switch to Biden soon and then tappanch could be hopefully right again with his 270 Biden Win proposal!
You can follow live here:
https://www.google.com/search?q=us+election+2020&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari
While the results of the election are still to come, it is clear that the pollsters were wrong again, ie. – the margins of Trump’s victories in Florida, Ohio, – his lead (9h. CET) in Pensilvania, Michigan or – the national vote numbers Biden 49.9% Trump 48.5 are a far cry from the 6-10 points lead forcasted. These errors are a subject worth a study of its own/ More importantly it is obvious that there’s something wrong with the American liberal democracy, eg. Fukuyama was quite wrong, just as the believers in “homo sapiens” and even the “homo economicus” school, as the developments in the US, the UK and Hu suggest. I can’t grasp how can so many people trust this crooked sociopath with anything, but it is a fact that 65.5 million did so with the full knowledge of his person and position, ergo half of the God given people (Isten adta nép) are deplorables by our criteria. What were the distinct Trump features, he – broke and keeps braking many basic political and social rules, subtly or overtly endorsing rasist, intolerant or authoritarian positions, – he and his admin broke the law on many occasions eg. six close… Read more »
Pollsters:
Something is foul.
Don’t poll numbers generally give +/- 3…? And not, +/- 11?
How do we know that the posted numbers are legitimate?
How is it that all of a sudden, pollsters don’t know their ass from a hole in the ground?
petofi
Here’s where to follow the live results
https://www.google.com/search?q=us+election+2020&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari
The polls were wrong AGAIN, nothing foul so far, except for Trump and his statements.
“IMO the democracies should get tougher defending themselves, but should also address the concerns of the deplorables and deflate them one way or the other”
I agree completely that you have to engage with voters on the nationalist/ populist side, otherwise how can you expect to convince them of anything? However:
1) Internet sites can be very impersonal and divisive, where it’s easier to launch personal attacks than engage in discussion – this is counterproductive I think;
2) “Deplorables”? You want to convince people by calling them deplorable?
3) A survey on telex.hu shows that 75% of Fidesz voters believe Jews secretly control the world’s governments https://telex.hu/belfold/2020/11/03/political-capital-globsec-kozvelemeny-kutatas-osszeeskuves-elmelet-demokracia maybe we should start by targeting the other 25% or where to start in this case?
To be precise: half of the people like Trump better than the alternative.
Trump’s situation (every politician’s situation) is also a function of the opposition.
Harris for example may be a net positive overall – but firstly, the US system is not proportionate and secondly, I am certain that in the all important Rust Belt but also in FL and some Southern States where the Dems are relatively doing OK she was a strong repellant net because uneducated, white rural voters especially men simply cannot accept a women of color with multiple degrees in pants as a (vice)president. Period.
So Trump’s position also implies that his competition wasn’t very good (they may be decent, professional people, sure, but I mean this in a political sense, compared to the demands of the targeted voters).
But the polling error was gigantic and pervasive for sure.
“it is clear that the pollsters were wrong again”
What a surprise
“these errors are a subject worth a study of its own”
Never bother to study a folly, ask yourself only what it accomplishes.
“ it is a fact that 65.5 million did so…and half of the people like it.”
It’s worse in Hungary, in mindset/values it is ~75% pro-Orban
“the democracies should get tougher defending themselves”
Against what ? Against voting/elections ?
“It’s worse in Hungary, in mindset/values it is ~75% pro-Orban”
You are talking about the 27% of eligible voters who voted for the dictator in 2018?
Not only that (OK, this is based on exit polls which are even less reliable):
Matt Bruenig:
According to the exit poll, Trump did better in 2020 with every race and gender except white men.
Change from 2016: White Men -5 White Women +2 Black Men +4 Black Women +4 Latino Men +3 Latino Women +3 Other +5
The choice is not over yet, but I can already hear them laughing out loud. The populists in Europe like Salvani, LePen, O1G, Wilders, Johnson and Meuthen are dancing for joy right now. America chooses and it looks like that a madman wins, who will lay the whole world in rubble and ashes. We write here almost every day about the worries in Hungary, but what is that compared to what will happen to all of us in the future – global. Which is worse, Trump or Covid 19? Each for itself can destroy the world. Trump through madness, C19 through intelligent mutation.
Also, we should see the Senate and House and governor elections too. Obama’s reelection obscured the Democrats decline on a state level and it seems that the Dems could not regain the Senate and their House majority will also remain slim. And these with a very unpopular president (or at least the polls showed that, probably the popularity numbers were also wrong, Trump was always more popular than what the numbers showed). The presidency is very important but the downballot positions too.
Ah, Stop & Shop! Campus police at Amherst used to make us say those words three times fast to determine if we had been imbibing. We usually had been, but as long as we weren’t driving, the punishment was nothing more than a good finger-shaking. Memories…
Janez Janša, Slovenia’s boss and a good friend of O1G already congratulated Trump – wonder when O1G will follow.
I’m so sad …
It’s not over yet
Sometimes your are funny Eva, yesterday apparently influenced by polling data you seemed extremely optimistic about a victory for former VP Biden. Today you are cautioning posters about letting the election play out. One thing about the polling data is clear what are called the confidence interval calculationsbeing used are far too narrow. It is also obvious that in the US national media, most journalists reporting on these polls lack the background in math to understand what is going on. Most journalists have high communication skills and lower math skills. They are employing the so called geeks to do this work and do not grasp what the geeks are telling them about how they are establishing confidence intervals. I actually went to bed relatively early assuming what is happening would happen. President Trump has done very well and may win much to my distress as a Republican who crossed over to try and get rid of the mentally ill President Trump. Of course just because those of us “never Trump Republicans” working together though the Lincoln Project were supporting Biden doesn’t mean we flipped on the legislative elections. Regardless, even if Joe Biden wins, he likely at this point will… Read more »
Here in Illinois I have been watching some of the suburban Chicago voting, the city is solidly Democratic generally and we even have elected members of the Democratic Socialist of America. One very interesting race was for a seat for the US House of Representatives in the far western suburbanites in the 14th Congressional District. A first term African American woman won this seat in a historically Republican suburban area in the last electoral cycle and her challenger is a deeply conservative pro-Trump Republican who is currently servicing in the Illinois State legislature. One thing the Republican did was to focus on the looting and rioting in Chicago and ran advertisements focusing on Rep Underwood’s comments on the events in Chicago that had their emphasis on the issue of racial justice for minorities. The Republican raised the specter of a collapse of law and order, and the fact that groups of primarily African American looters ventured out to this suburban area to loot shopping areas after the murder of George Floyd. The Republican Oberweis might win back this seat for the Republicans, based on this appeal to the fears of some white suburban residents of a loss of law and… Read more »
As for claims of record turnouts for the election expected in particular in the Democratic Party stronghold here in Chicago it currently is according to the Chicago Board of Election Commissioners latest report that 59.74% of the registered voters cast a vote. (It needs to be emphasized that nationally 21.4 percent of eligible voters are not even registered to vote and in Chicago among lower income residents that percentage of non-registered is considerably higher. ) In my own higher income majority white Ward in the city our turn out was far higher than than that of the City as a whole, it was 67.81%. In the 2016 election in the city of Chicago the turn out was 71.04% of registered voters. These results are not yet final for 2020, Needless to say here in the City of Chicago the vote for Biden was overwhelming as a percentage of the vote, he got 81.59% of the vote with Trump getting 16.86% of the vote. In 2016, Clinton got 83.73% of the vote with Trump getting 12.41%. My reading of the data with the vast majority of votes counted is that Biden did not greatly inspire lower income voters in Chicago to turn… Read more »
“One thing about the polling data is clear…”
Yeah, and that one is that they were inflated for the purpose of justifying the voter fraud you are currently witnessing.
Team Ovidiu has to report a defeat of the orange one to the boss in Moscow the coming days.
Biden starts to look good for a win.
There is no voter fraud, just vote counting.
Ovidiu please contact the Republican National Committee with your observation that published polling data consistently was inflated in favor of Biden, no doubt you have ample evidence to send them. That information could be of critical importance in the final implementation of their strategic plan to undermine any possible Biden victory.
I think Ovidu you should also be congratulating Trump on his victory, in this close election. Trump has of course declared victory and claims to be preparing for litigation to defend that victory. If that litigation doesn’t work then there is always the rightwing militia movement to be utilized if necessary.
Isvtan-C..
Donald Trump is the rightful victor of this election, and if Biden ends up with more votes, it is only because he cheated.
The Dems object to voter identification, which they say is “racist,” because many black and brown people are somehow too retarded to get proper identification.
Dems are champions of ballots that are simply mailed out to voters then mailed back in. There is nothing to prevent these ballots from being collected and filled out by anyone.
How can one ensure that a mailed-out ballot is filled out by the intended recipient? The only way is to make every ballot trackable, which violates the whole idea of secret balloting.
It is an idiotic system, if not designed precisely for enabling corruption.
Ovidiot is really funny – here he describes how ballots are handled in Hungary, at least for those poor people living as a minority in exile in Romania etc …
“many black and brown people are somehow too retarded”
Yes, we know you’re an abominable racist. The problem these people have is very simple:
It costs (for them a lot of …) money to get a voter id
In Texas the student ID (with picture) issued by the state is not valid to vote, a gun licence is.
If Trump should win he’ll surely make a gun license a necessary condition for voting.
I think I’ve written about this before:
This year around 17 million guns were sold in the USA, adding to the already existing ones …
The old “Bang bang you’re dead!” game – in a dysfunctional adult staging.
There are 156 years of experience in voting by mail in the USA. First time in 2020 an idiot shouts “cheating!”, since he is afraid of the electorate. BTW, there are systems of tracking that don’t violate secret balloting: 2 envelopes in each other, 1st tracked, when everything is ok the 2nd will be – still closed – forwarded in a ballot box.
It’s the dumb member on duty today….
My goodness why didn´t they vote this guy out of office with a tsunami wave?
Quite right.
Bernie Sanders would’ve beaten the strumpet by 30 million votes.
The Hungarian Foreign Minister was tested positive.
https://444.hu/2020/11/04/koronavirusos-szijjarto-peter
OTT.
Can I start a campaign?
I would implore HS readers to:
Pray for Pete:
https://apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-global-trade-health-prayuth-chan-ocha-cambodia-d357e0b309f262947fe9a0bf771559f3
Yes, it looks like he has forgotten his mask but hey, when were the scum ever expected to follow the same rules as the proles?
Anyway, let us hope that Captn Pete has many more years to come sailing on ultra-luxury yachts owned by shady oligarchs
I would be very interested in a little insight into Pete’s social interactions, every time he visits places known to front international activities of Kim’s drugs and arms Triad.
Dara at 7:40 AM (ET) compare this with the 4:30 data
Wisconsin. Biden’s lead: 26K, mail-in ballots not counted yet: 87K, ratio: 3.4
Michigan. Trump’s lead: 2K, mail-in ballots not counted yet: 750K, ratio: 325.0
Pennsylvania: Trump’s lead: 611K, mail-in ballots not counted yet: 1,545K, ratio: 2.5
Arizona. Biden’s lead: 94K, mail-in ballots not counted yet: 503K, ratio: 5.4
Nevada: Biden’s lead: 8K, mail-in ballots not counted yet: 175K, ratio: 22.9
no new data published since 4:30 AM (ET)
Georgia: Trump’s lead: 102K, mail-in ballots not counted yet: 291K, ratio: 2.8
North Carolina: Trump’s lead: 77K, mail-in ballots not counted yet: 134K, ratio: 2.8
Biden will take Michigan for sure.
Assume that Trump wins Georgia & North Carolina.
IF Biden holds onto Nevada & Arizona, but loses Pennsylvania
THEN Biden-Trump: 370-368. —–> Biden wins
IF Biden holds onto Arizona, but loses Pennsylvania & Nevada
THEN Biden-Trump: 364-374 —-> Trump wins
IF Biden wins in Arizona & Pennsylvania, but loses Nevada:
THEN Biden-Trump: 384-354 —-> Biden wins.
Data …
Now Trum can order to stop the counting of votes.
270 electoral votes are blue.
BTW. Thank you tappanch for the data and analysis you are providing us with.
There are lots of confusing and outdated data with nice graphics in the press.
But you are special to present the relevant data in a short and precise way. Exactly, what one needs to know.
They have Google, we have tappanch!
and tappanch’s absentee ballot is being counted right now…
tappanch looking at the data you are examining is not worth the effort, it is changing rapidly. Moreover, some Boards of election within particular States under the control of the county or city Boards of election commissioners are releasing mail in votes in groups at a time during the day.
Even the reports on the percentage of the votes counted are in some cases questionable. Also presumptions being made of mail in votes being in their vast majority Democrat, will have to be examined after the elections. As yet I have seen no actual report from a formal Board of Elections breaking down votes done in person or by mail in terms of preference for Biden or Trump. Most of the reports I have seen come from guesses based on some phone calls to voters who admit to voting by mail.
Pennsylvania
11:07 EST
Certified number of registered voters: 9,091,371
Voter affiliation:
Democratic: 4,229,163
Republican: 3,543,159
Mail ballots issued to voters: 3.090,953
Mail ballots cast and entered into the Statewide Uniform Registry as of November 3: 2,581,902
Mail-in & Absentee ballots cast – voter affiliation:
Democratic: 1,676,710
Republican: 612,122
No affiliation: 204,694
Libertarian: 7,812
Green: 2,456
other: 78,018
Mail-in & Absentee ballots counted so far: 1,660,196
Remaining: 921,706
Source:
https://www.votespa.com/About-Elections/Pages/Counting-Dashboard.aspx
Re: the now ‘Election Day After’…and Trump has announced he’s ‘won’ and that’s all folks’. The dictator is in. He has spoken from the mountaintop. When looking at the personal qualities of President Trump and Vice President Biden , all reasonable and normal citizens of voting age , who have a reasonable hold of reality and who take a look at the behavior, thoughts and actions of both antagonists going for the nation’s leadership , can only come to one conclusion. And that is that the one who wishes to ‘Make America Great Again’ has obviously risen so far from the bottom of the evolutionary pond of Presidential history that when the American people vote he is sent back to its depths preferably deep-sixed and landing on his back. But there is an America that sick and tired of a President , a strutting blowhard who has managed to consistently flounder and flail while rising from the Paleolithic. With Trump, the integrity and character of Presidential power has obviously been subsumed into a kind of dog eat dog caveman Republican politics. He has virtually decapitated everything this country has stood for since its inception. Hopefully he will be sunk with good… Read more »
Some of the comments here again sound really strange to me. Especially re Ms Harris.
What is the problem of those US voters who can’t accept a woman?
In many countries, among them the most successful ones women are leading, so what is it that makes the USA and Hungary into deplorables’ homes aka sh*thole countries right now?
Do so many people really not care at all about their politicians lying and stealing from them?
Or do they still think it’s fake news?
PS:
Just reading a few of Trump’s tweets makes me want to throw up – never ever read such idiocies and don’t even think about spelling and grammar.
Let’s invite the Prince of Whales to a hamberder with cowfefe!
The American politics and constitutional law revolve around and has revolved around since the beginning fundamentally one conception: race. That’s just the nature of US politics. “Inner city” or even “urban” implies black. “Redistribution” implies giving “our” (ie. white middle class) tax money to “welfare queens” on “crack”. Black with guns are “thugs”, whites with guns are “patriots”. “Soft on crime” meant letting Willy Horton (check out his story) out of prison. And so on. The race discourse does not affect all races equally, it chiefly affects and will always chiefly affect Blacks they having the darkest color (in almost all multiracial societies from Brazil to Sri Lanka the darker skin you have, the lower your position is in the social hierarchy). For example Latinos (many of whom are Caucasians to begin with) seem to me getting coopted in the conception of whiteness. Many of them resist being called “people of color” even if they are manifestly non-white looking. But they don’t want to be grouped together with Blacks either (they too like many whites just don’t like Blacks). The late professor Derrick Bell predicted this to me in an email. Bell’s most famous articles is this: https://harvardlawreview.org/wp-content/uploads/1980/01/518-533_Online.pdf Of course,… Read more »
What is the problem?
The world of globally projected virtual media and unlimited simultaneous access without physical representation is the problem.
It’s still not real. But it’s very much made out to be real – Just like the religious “God”-manipulation.
“Let’s invite the Prince of Whales to a hamberder with cowfefe!
”But not in the beautiful city of Belgium, but in the state Button!
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Presidente Trump right now is making himself a pest contesting this and that when looking at counts coming in and for sure there’s more to come. At this tenuous time for him the old boy looks like a ‘nervous Nelly’ with his mind racing like a gerbil on a treadmill. In the annals of American history there has never been a creature as this wretched excuse for an American President.
Historian Jon Meacham has made a profound point as we observe that horrible political anomaly in the Presidency. And it is that there are those in the country who are so infatuated with a personality that they choose that over the system which gives them enormous benefits in life, liberty and making their happiness. By ascribing loyalty to one leader they are actually denouncing having a government of rule of law, aspirations and hopes. They simply give their loyalty to a demented, narcissistic leader in the game only for himself not for the country and its people. The American future must look dismal after that kind of ‘choice’.
Biden has taken the lead in Michigan
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/11/03/us/elections/results-president.html
Along with AZ, NV and WI, Biden now leads in states worth 270 electoral votes, the number needed to win, or?
@Don Kichote, 10:04 am
At this time, Biden has been declared winner in AZ and WI and has a slim, slim lead in MI and NV and at the same time though, his voter support margin over Trump keeps growing – slowly but growing.
Is it too much to hope that this can wipe the smile off the face of Viktor the ‘Tater Dictator?
…And his hangaround Spud Butts.
I know some of Eva’s readers follow AOC, Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, our star social democrat here in the USA. You will find this short article interesting https://www.yahoo.com/now/aoc-democrats-weakness-latinos-foreseeable-125654713.html
Of course Biden clearly lost Florida based in good part on the Latino vote, AOC seems to think there was an outreach problem by the Biden Democrats. But there is a profound hostility to AOC’s social democratic wing of the Biden’s party by numerous hispanics in Florida. Trump used crude anti-communism very effectively in turning out the out for himself and AOC and her wing probably helped Trump in Florida.
Right.
Trump’s red herring – ‘Biden is a Socialist’ proved to be a veritable red cloth to voters fleeing “Socialist” Cuba, Venezuela & Nicaragua.
That’s almost an exact definition of a fascist:
Everyone who is left of them/doesn’t agree with them must be a socialist/marxist/communist/bolshevik.
Now please connect these words with their authors:
aida, chris d, ovidiot, zolidiot
Shouldn’t be too difficult … 🙂 🙂
To the right of us is only the wall!
PS @ Istvan:
I kind of admire AOC – she probably would fit very nicely in a European Green party.
So who are the people calling her a socialist or even communist? What should we call them?
This also shows how afraid they are of women who stand up for themselves.
10:50 AM
Pennsylvania
Trump’s lead: 542,709 votes.
Absentee ballots not yet counted: 1,428,000
outstanding/lead = 2.6
I got used to the question, why we in Hungary voted for Orbán and his orange party – and why we did this even more than once. Now I give this question back to the Americans and ask, why they are unable to clearly and easily rid of their own orange man, who shouldn’t be able to win in a single state! Instead we (including me) are hoping for Biden winning enough states with a fraction of a percent.
István that’s unfathomable to me, the Trump fans parrot what Trump is lying about, unbelievable. But if Biden wins, Orbán and Brexit Jo will be terribly annoyed. If it comes to that, I’m afraid I’ll have malicious joy because the right-wing nationalists will get much less air.
“Orbán and Brexit Jo will be terribly annoyed”
This would be already reason enough, just there are so many other reasons as well to hope for Biden!
I think Biden wins, Trump has lied and preached so much about postal voting fraud virtually preached that I’m sure few of the Trump supporters voted by postal vote and in some states they’re only now being counted. Apparently, in some states the postal vote is not allowed to be counted before election day.
Already last year,Trump’s shadow-cabinet took great care to make sure he talked to Rep. voters about not voting by mail, or they wouldn’t have the same free hand in playing the fraud-card, according to plan.
You’re right about the facts. I don’t know how those figures were collected, but for Pennsylvania I heard about nearly 4:1 in the absentee votes for Biden up to now. Since still 20% need to be counted and if all the mailed votes were casted in this ratio it would make Biden not losing Pennsylvania by 8, but leading with 7 – 8 points.
I just hope that these facts add to a win of Biden. However, it is unbelievable how many voted for a man that is not only disgusting, but an outright dangerous idiot with not the slightest respect for humans or even the reality.
At the moment, the objective situation is this: Biden needs fewer electoral votes to win than Trunk does.
I had to look up this new Repug Senate member Marjorie Taylor Greene after I read that she’s a Quanon supporter.
Here are some gems she posted:
, “There’s a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to take this global cabal of Satan-worshiping pedophiles out, and I think we have the president to do it.”[
Greene stated that the election of Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib was part of “an Islamic invasion of our government.”
She also called George Soros, a Jewish businessman and Holocaust survivor, a Nazi.
And there’s more …
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marjorie_Taylor_Greene
Now why does this remind me of what our trolls have been writing? 🙂 🙂
Of course any sane person …
But there are insane people all over the world.
PS:
Has the Hun government said anything yet – like the prime minister of Slovenia who in the early afternoon already congratulated Trump on twitter
I just wrote a comment on Qanon fan Repug Senate member Marjorie Taylor Greene which was not accepted – something similar happened a few days ago.
Is this because I quoted from the wiki on her which contains several links?
So I’ll just give the wiki for you to enjoy her writing about the pedophile Dems, Soros being a Nazi and those two female Muslim politicians being part of “an Islamic invasion of our government.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marjorie_Taylor_Greene
PS:
Seems I was right – too many links, now it works I hope.
These rollover nut-cases come in handy as diversions from the Trunk (sorry, “p”) shadow-cabinet and the more sophisticated psychological political deception.
Trump’s people claim they are sure Trump can still win in Arizona.
It is not likely. There are 4 counties where counting has not finished.
Votes not counted yet: 22,542 to 27,492
Biden’s lead: 93,016
There are 4 counties where counting has not finished.
Expected votes: Biden: 12,212, Trump: 10,028.(my little calculation)
So Biden is expected to win by 95,000 votes in Arizona.
The previous numbers came from the official Arizona election website:
https://results.arizona.vote/#/featured/18/0
But other sites say there are much more votes outstanding.
Votes not counted: 499806, Biden’s lead: 93016
https://www.270towin.com/2020-election-results-live/state/arizona
Arizona Republic is reporting that there are still 600,000(!) ballots left to be counted.
Arizona was called too soon by Fox in my opinion. We may have a final result early tomorrow morning CET.
https://eu.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/11/04/least-400-k-ballots-left-count-arizona-republic-estimates-and-number-certainly-higher/6157997002/
Michigan went to Biden, who is now 6 electoral votes from the 270 which determine presidency.
With 3 states to go, a Biden triumph is close enough for preparing to light the cigar. The Trunk already smoked his ex-pat anti Havana stogee, but the suspense remains intact for a little longer.
Anyone hoping for a Hungarian-style purge by the Democrats, supposing Biden wins, will have to hold their horses.
Republicans dominate The House and The Senate.
Still, getting rid of the Trunk would be a major achievement, in terms of restoring a limit to insanity.