What a depressing day, and I’m not talking only about the weather, which is gray with dark clouds. What upset me a great deal more was what I read in the Hungarian media, one article after another. First came heartrending, outrageous stories about refugees. And there was the news about frightening new regulations, indicating that the Orbán regime is going to keep close tabs on all foreign visitors.
Let me start with the most distressing news. Népszava reported today that those Afghans whom the Hungarian military rescued, people who had worked alongside the Hungarians in Afghanistan, will be treated like illegal migrants instead of refugees.
Defense Minister Tibor Benkő proudly recalled in one of his interviews that the military had been superbly prepared for the rescue mission. When the troops left Hungary, they had a complete list of Afghans who had been working in one capacity or another for the Hungarian mission over the years. I was impressed.
Once in Hungary, however, these people and their families were sent to a detention camp, where they are being kept incommunicado. The initial explanation for choosing this particular venue made some sense, as long as it was merely temporary while more suitable accommodations were being found. I was not entirely convinced about the goodwill of the Orbán regime, however.
Although the ministry of defense was responsible for the Afghan refugees’ evacuation, from the moment they set foot in Hungary they were under the jurisdiction of the ministry of interior, which decided to handle the Afghan arrivals not according to procedures used in the case of refugees but according to procedures followed when dealing with illegal violators of the border. This decision is hard if not impossible to justify, but, let’s face it, in Hungary no government official has to justify anything.
A Hungarian Helsinki Committee staff member described the difference between the two procedures in simple terms: the asylum procedure can provide at least three years of protection, while those being processed under the aliens’ procedure can expect a shorter period of validity and more limited eligibility for a residence permit. The latter can be withdrawn at any time. Moreover, it does not automatically guarantee a work permit and does not entitle the holder to social assistance. This is what protection means in the Orbán regime for people who worked for the Hungarian military.
It was this horrendous piece of news that welcomed me this morning. But I didn’t have to wait long before I encountered yet another nightmarish story, this one about Abouzar Soltani, an Iranian refugee, and his 12-year-old son Armin. They left Iran in 2016, and, after waiting two and a half years in Serbia, they at last received permission to enter Hungary. Thus, they arrived in the country legally. Nonetheless, they were put in the detention facility in Röszke for the next 553 days, until the notorious transit zone had to be closed. Their story is long and complicated, but it is worth spending the time to learn what it’s like to seek asylum in Hungary. The convoluted process lasted a total of 988 days and often seemed utterly hopeless.
Abouzar Soltani and Armin
There were times when the Hungarian authorities refused to feed the father for weeks. And the child was deprived of years of schooling. What a waste, what cruelty. And yet this man is grateful. On August 18, when he and his son at long last received asylum and protection from Hungary, Abouzar, greatly moved, said, “God bless Hungary! I love Hungary and the Hungarians. I have been waiting for this for two years and eight months. Thank you so much for taking me in and giving me refugee status.” By the way, he is a Christian, but the Hungarian authorities were still ready to send him back to Iran. It is hard to find words for this cruel behavior.
Let’s hope that the Afghan friends of Hungary will not have to endure the same fate as the also legally entered Soltani and his son. But I have my doubts, because this regime is incapable of acting better than its essence.
In comparison to the situation of the newly arrived Afghans and the heartbreaking story of Abouzar and Armin, perhaps the next piece of information will seem trivial. Menedzsment Fórum (mfor.hu) published an article titled “Accommodation providers do not want to be police officers,” in which we learn that from September 1 on, individuals renting rooms to travelers from outside the country will have to provide information on their guests. The guests will also be required to have their documents scanned and uploaded to the Vendég Információs Zárt Adatbázis/Closed Information Database for Guests (VIZA). The system is intended to assist in law enforcement. Personal data can only be searched by the police for the purpose of crime prevention and law enforcement, as defined, of course, by the government. I suspect that the alleged “Soros army” will be at the top of the list of suspicious characters. After all, any visitor who has a record of activism, who has any ties to foreign NGOs, or who in any way can be viewed as an enemy of the regime is a potential law breaker. And hence potentially subject to surveillance or whatever other tactics the police deem necessary to prevent the commission of a “crime.”
I tried to imagine something similar in Austria, Germany, or Belgium when I often had wonderful rooms located in picturesque villages. I don’t think that the lack of scanners in those days was responsible for the dissimilar treatment.
These three topics were more than enough for one day.
August 30, 2021
Blog posts by Eva S. Balogh also appear in Hungarian at https://ujnepszabadsag.com/
New migrants and refugees that arrived at the southern borders of the EU by boat or on foot in the last 3 months
(August 30 vs June 4)
Italy: 23864 = 38519- 14655
Spain: 8379= 19236- 10857
Greece: 2008 = 5124- 3116
Cyprus: 508= 1190- 682
Malta: 178= 325- 147
Source: UNHCR
Number of new asylum seekers in Hungary:
[asylum status granted]
2015: 177,135 [146]
2016: 29,432 [154]
2017: 3,397 [106]
2018: 671 [ 68]
2019: 500 [ 22]
2020: 171 [ 83]
https://www.ksh.hu/stadat_files/nep/hu/nep0027.html
https://www.ksh.hu/stadat_files/nep/hu/nep0026.html
Hungarian citizens officially living in Hungary but born outside:
January 1, 2021 [January 1, 2011]
Romania: 189,897 [126,615]
SU+Ukraine+Russia: 69,046 [24,183]
Yugo+Serbia: 39,766 [ 24,387]
Germany: 23,082 [ 11,822]
Czech+Slovakia: 15,310 [20,911]
Total: 410,053 [242,234]
https://www.ksh.hu/stadat_files/nep/hu/nep0024.html
Yes, I seem to remember the avalanche of criticism directed at Trump for securing the border i regards to its cruelty and so on. Even before his Successor was sworn in, the tide of migrants surged in expectation of the more “humane” policies. Result? Like a magnet new policy is attracting people to be raped, beaten, extorted by the cartel before they make it to the promised land. And yes, the US no longer has an effective Southern border. US no longer a state in every sense of the term.
Zoliboy:
“Unlike you, I have a life. One could spend a full 8 hour workday debunking all the BS that you are all spewing here. No one has time for that. But I guess that is the strategy here is it not?”
Yes, and it works, you are already 14 hours busy today. (:
That quote is classic projection ….
My wife has relatives in both New Mexico and Arizona that we are in contact with a great deal. There is definite evidence of a huge increase in illegal border crossings since Biden came to power. According to the data I have seen from the Dept of Homeland security illegal border crossings are up 173% from 1 year ago and 28% since January when President Biden stopped the wall & many immediate deportations, but not all of them. The Biden administration formally ended the “remain in Mexico” policy in early June, which was supported by immigrant advocates who argued the policy put migrants in harm’s way. More than 11,000 migrants were admitted to the US who previously fell under the policy. But a ruling by the US Supreme court will likely end that see https://www.kltv.com/2021/08/25/supreme-court-orders-remain-mexico-policy-reinstated/ . But there is no evidence that crimes against the undocumented border crossers by the so called coyotes guiding them has increased as Zoli claims. The criminal cartels in Mexico generally do not directly run the illegal border crossing operations, but actually enforce street taxes against them called a piso. The cartels then pay off Mexican federal police to make crossings easier. The same routes used by these… Read more »
So lets see now: Border no longer under control. Crossings FY to date already highest since year 2000, and the year is not over yet. https://www.statista.com/chart/20326/mexicans-non-mexcians-apprehended-at-southern-us-border/ Murder rate is up significantly, and law enforcement future looks outright gloomy, given that no one wants to sign up to do the job anymore. Police recruitment is down, retirements, resignations are up. Biden policies cannot be blamed, but he was part of vilification campaign with comments such as “If you were my daughter you would not be stopped by police, because you would be white”. Not to mention when his administration threw Ohio officer who saved a girl from being knifed under the bus. The Afghanistan fiasco? Short-term damage to US reputation. Longer-term Russia-China gain by integration prospects of a region from Pacific to the Mediterranean in a solid block of influence. Biden not to blame for long term outcome, but the short-term damage to reputation is his. Now you are indeed right. These are the talking points one finds on Fox and so on. But this is not what I base my views on. I just read China limiting Kids online gaming access to 3 hours/week. In school, they learn the skills… Read more »
Zoliboy, the new Nostradamus.
I propose you limit your internet access to 5 Minutes a day.
The results will be amazing.
And their counterparts who made it to the UK are being promised housing; charities are making sure they have enough food and clothing and help to settle in to their new surroundings. Perhaps more publicity would make the Hungarian authorities change their stance but I’m not hopeful, as Project Fear must continue to make sure the plebs vote the right way in next year’s election.
The post tonight has many interesting and poignant details. The cruel treatment of the Afghan and Iranian refugees is in contrast to the warm reception that 1956 Hungarian refugees received in Austria, Germany, Canada, the USA and Australia. And Tappanach’s post show the preference Hungary gives-primarily- to Hungarian speakers from nearby countries.
Can this ghastly treatment of those who supported and probably befriended Hungarians engaged in activities in Afghanistan be generated solely by Orban’s need to strengthen his hate propaganda against “outsiders” for the forthcoming election or has the idea of “Kontrol” under all circumstances been adopted as the new winning policy? Perhaps the question is irrelevant because the policy is in place and in operation. While on vacation at Lake Balaton a few weeks ago, on the very night many of the (external to Hungary) family had just arrived, our house was entred in the heat of the night, my computer taken, two watches, some money and my (aged) telephone charger. (No phone now). That was bad enough but then the police arrived and spent the next five hours collecting evidence by smearing black gloop everywhere and then removing some more property (no receipt issued). My now retired daughter who lives in “the West” was the chief interlocutor with the officers since she is fluent in Hungarian. Just before the police team left, both she and I were swabbed in order to obtain a record of our dna and we were required to sign some paper of which we were given… Read more »
Hungary is a Judeo-Christian Country and is a signature of the Dublin Regulation. The country is surrounded by safe countries, there really is no reason or right to apply for refugee status in this country. In 2015 and 2016 Hungary rejected Muslim refugees/illegal migrant on the basis of past history (Muslims from the Ottoman Empire oppressed the country for 160 years) In the long run, this decision was right. Western countries that accepted large number of young Middle Eastern hordes ended up with an increase in crime. Many of the 2015/2016 migrants, especially women) could not read or write. To this date, only 37% of Syrian refugees are employed in Germany according to DW. These people will remain a cost to the taxpayers for their lives. Migrant who ever entered complained bitterly, one wonders what they expected. No one has the right to demand everlasting support. The Afghan evacuees are in a different class. Those Afghans working with the Hungarians were paid. It was a job for them, not necessarily a guarantee of a visa to the EU. However, some employees of the western allies, were actually Taliban supporters. The background of the evacuees must be carefully checked. If these… Read more »
Okay, some facts:
Hungary is an atheist country. Only a tiny minority believes in a god, no matter how he is called by his inventors. Seen this fact and your claim Orbán and all his fake christians should leave the country immediately.
Dublin 3 gives Hungary the right to send refugees registered in another EU country back there. A right, no duty.
The Ottoman Empire was enlarging its territory. There is no Refugee Empire, which is enlarging its territory.
Refugees were for the most part admitted to Germany. There the crime rate is going down. A rate that is much lower than the Hungarian rate. Perhaps admitting refugees would make our country relatively safer.
If this percentage is correct more Syrian refugees are working in Germany tham Hungarians in Hungary. If we take into the account that most refugees were minors should go to school a real success.
Hungarian regime has no moral, they don’t even care about life threats against those working for the Hungarian army, but treat them as bad as possible.
Istvan, you are so good, you can take Marty’s place.
Who wants to live in Hungary nowadays?
Our task it to free Hungary from this Russo-Hungaro fascism.
1. Refugees should register in the first safe country.
2.Sharia law practiced by Muslims is unacceptable.
3.The reason why members of the Ottoman Empire stayed in Hungary does not matter the bottom line is they were there causing a lot of damage.
4.Gun crime Hungary is 89th, Germany is 15th
Homicide Hungary is 66th, Germany is 43th
Murder rate Hungary 53rd, Germany 29th
Istvan check your statistics.
5.Hungarians may not be religious however the laws are based
Judeo-Christian values.
6.Attack on Jewish people by Muslims is up in all western EU
countries.
7.Rape and beheading are not acceptable in Hungary.
8.Most Hungarians leaving Hungary in 56 were well educated
they prospered as well as being an asset.
9.Unemployment in Hungary is one of the lowest in Hungary.
I could go on and on. Leftist Marxist ideas should never be accepted in the EU. The Socialist government prior to the FIDESZ government, ruined the country. The national debt was higher than the GDP of Hungary.
It seems that you have been brainwashed by leftist Marxist ideas.
Would be nice if you would provide some evidence for your opinions.
These platitudes may be very acceptable in your right wing environment, but we neo marxists need a bit more than opinions.
“leftist Marxist ideas”
oh, oh, could be Z’s wife/girlfriend/sister
BS-ing in standard Z-style ins Blaue hinein…
1 Should. Yes, should. This means not must. 2 When Muslims in France started to chop off hands from thieves according to the sharia? 3 We should be more afraid of Austrians, they occupied us longer than the Ottomans and harmed us definitely more. 4 Remarkable statistics you have. We have discussed here not long ago the exorbitant high murder rate in Hungary, 50 % above Germany, 100 % above Austria. 5 Values are abolished in Hungary, everything must serve Orbán and his mafia. Christian values are the least respected by the regime. Ask the pope. 6 Rubber bone. Where no muslims are they can’t behave good or bad. In Hungary the regime alone is uttering so much anti-semite propaganda that this tops the rates of countries where this is considered to be a crime. 7 Rape is not acceptable in Hungary? Indeed, rape is a huge problem in Hungary and once in a while a case finds the way to the courts. 8 So you declare that only high educated people deserve to live in a safe country? 9 Oh yes, the unemployment rate in Hungary is the lowest in Hungary. But highest as well. Employment rate is definitely… Read more »
Kudos to you Istvan, for having the patience to address that diatribe point by point. In dealing with MvT’s #8 you called her on her obvious elitism in, but by itself that’s acknowledging the truth of the statement.
” 8.Most Hungarians leaving Hungary in 56 were well educated they prospered as well as being an asset.”
Some 56’s were “well educated”, (predominantly men), if we take that to mean university educated, certainly not most or anything approaching a majority. There were also tradesmen, office workers, factory workers and labourers; with a fair smattering of chancers and petty criminals thrown in.
The second part of the statement is true enough, at least for those of us that settled in Australia, but there’s no reason to believe it was any different for those that settled elsewhere. Most Hungarians prospered here, whether they were carpenters, plumbers, painter decorators or engineers; as a group they eventually became an asset. But the same can be said for the Italians, Greeks, Maltese, Lebanese, Vietnamese and others.
This decision to detain the Afghan refugees is outrageous, and a matter which should be dealt with directly by the UNHCR, if necessary through the General Assembly. As reported by the BBC this morning, refugees arriving in the UK are in a state of exhaustion, with many being taken directly to a hospital. That is the appropriate treatment for asylum seekers. The Hungarian government should no longer be able to ride roughshod over internationally-agreed norms and conditions.
“from September 1 on, individuals renting rooms to travelers from outside the country will have to provide information on their guests… documents scanned and uploaded [to a central database]”
I wonder if this would apply to guests from EU countries?
And if that is so, I suspect this could be in serious conflict with EU laws and regulations!
Note: free movement within EU, without any overall state surveillance!
My understanding is that the new regulation applies to all foreigners.
You overlook the Perpetual Emergency, with suspension of rights until stability is achieved. Decades, I expect.
A detailed article on this law in German:
https://www.pestermerkur.eu/archive/738
Everybody’s passport/ID has to be scanned and sent to the central authority – managed by Rahel O1G?
The most important news is that the electoral commission allowed to hold a referendum on two questions (out of five) of Karácsony’s proposals yesterday.
Do you agree that the Parliament should repeal Act LXXXI of 2021 on the Fudan Hungary University Foundation on the Transfer of Assets to the Fudan Hungary University Foundation?
Do you agree that the maximum duration of unemployment benefit should be 270 days?
In my opinion, this means that Orbán has given up on his Fudan project. He has no other choice because he knows that the Fudan project which is universally rejected is bad for him politically.
So, Marty’s opposition campaign manager was wrong after all when he said that “this Fudan news is just for show and Orban will continue with Fudan after the elections (ie. although he thinks his candidate will win and win the election in his district too, he thinks that the opposition will probably lose the elections).
Let’s hope that his prophecy for the elections will be accurate as his predictions on Fudan.
message to Team M: WE WILL WIN!!
if even OV&Co politicians start a petition “STOP other politicians” [?with what? doing politics? it supposed to be a democracy…], they, that is of course the myghti lidur and his minions, mist be shitting their clothes…
https://444.hu/2021/08/30/kocsis-mate-egyet-posztolt-es-a-fideszes-politikusok-mintha-parancsot-kaptak-volna-tomegevel-kezdtek-kommentelni
so OV&Co are fearing that: WE WILL WIN!!
I really don’t want to play Marty, but there are some aspects here that could play to the advantage of the Viktor.
https://magyarnemzet.hu/belfold/2021/08/a-fidesz-peticioja-eros-uzenet-lesz-a-baloldalnak-1
Just to be clear, I very much hope that the opposition wins. I am happy to be proven wrong if this means the opposition wins the elections. However, let’s see what happened. Orban allowed a referendum on Fudan in 2023. We know this because normally the election commission (which is basically managed from the Prime Minister’s Office) would’ve said that the law is based on an international treaty with the Chinese and as such it cannot be subject to a referendum (it is in the Basic Law). So this was a political decision, sure. But isn’t it impossible to imagine that (if Orban wins in 2022) Orban will just organize a campaign in 2023 (long after the elections) and persuade a slim majority of Hungarians (his die hard supporters) to actually support Fudan? When collecting signatures against Fudan, I met plenty of Fideszniks who supported Fudan basically just because they supported Orban and whatever Orban wants, these voters will support that. So can’t we imagine that many rural Hungarians (who will deliver Orban’s victory in 2022, if he wins) will just vote for Fudan if Orban’s propaganda tells them to? (Orban can make participation in a referendum obligatory for example.)… Read more »
“certainly the opposition won a few months and if it wins in 2022, there’s no Fudan”
“Lawyer”, you forgot the time limits of a referendum. If enough signatures will be collected the referendum has to take place in the beginning of 2022, end of 2021 would require many very fast taken actions and decisions. Whatever the dictator talked about earlier, it is impossible to change the time limits Orbán put into the law.
One other aspect is, that the Christmas man may really have a possibility to block the World Championships and the Viktor is forced to choose now. Losing his face to the whole world, or giving up or seeming to give up the Chinese one.
Concerning the vb there are several things to consider. Cancelling now is not depending on the results of the referendum. Orbán will lose his face and is not only threatened by the idea. Completely independent whether Budapest alone may cancel or not, no international federation will be keen on holding competitions in a city that is against that. And without the help of the city of Budapest I can’t imagine such an event could be organised practically, so many communal tasks are involved.
I know my reasoning is quite simple. But the six years I lived here now, I never saw the Viktor in the defense for long periods.
Attacking seems to be one of his basic principles. His peacock dancing abilities are the second most relevant property I recognize. I think he is trying to get “in control ” whatever it takes.
The peacock doesn’t work in the EU anymore, but at home may still be effective. So I think Marty has a point when he writes that the Fudan future depends on who wins the elections.
That brings me to the most important characteristic points of the Viktor, he lies, is a criminal, and a dictator. Therefore the “defeat” of the Viktor may turn in a sham victory for the opposition.
Of course you are right that Orbán is constantly attacking. If he is defeated the project will be silently buried, while attacking someone else. You learnt it. The EU learnt it. And the opposition as well. The FIDESZ sheep and those cut off factual news won’t see it, but many understand – all efforts of the regime to distort from their crimes. It is just too obvious that if the opposition wins it will be the end of Fudan as well. But if Orbán stays in power he has to live with the referendum. Pure legally Orbán has to end Fudan, as soon as he lost the referendum. I am pretty sure that the 200 000 signatures will not be the problem, especially because of the 2nd question, which is bothering many more, since too little is known that we give the entire campus as a present and it is no the usual investment of the Chinese. Getting half the electorate to cast their votes is way more difficult. But if the quota is reached and of course the majority is against the project parliament must act. There is no way out except for example to abolish referendums completely. Éva… Read more »
Your reasoning is absolutely solid, I can agree with everything you wrote.
However there are factors we do not know, the Fudan was not an idea of last year, this must have been planned a long time ago. Maybe even parallel with the silk railway where the contract will remain secret for years. What if there is a paragraph in that contract already mentioning Fudan?
The Chinese will not easily let go.
I know this is all an unproven fantasy of me, but with this regime one never knows.
In the schools, they already teach fantasy history initiated by the Kassler.
No.
First, you have no ideas about lawyers, no lawyer can possibly know all provisions of all law. Just as doctors specialize, lawyers too.
Anyway, first of all there can be no referendum 40 days before a general election (ie. April 5-8-10 of 2022).
That means that the last date could be mid-December 2021.
However, I’m pretty sure there will be appeal processes etc. the Parliament, president will all weigh in, the signatures must be collected, so it’s extremely unlikely that the referendum can be held in 2021.
It’s gonna be probably late 2022.
Elections have to be in April or May 2022. That’s all we know. January or February are not impossible months, perhaps entire March and a good part of April, if Orbán needs more time to “prepare” elections. Even I know that collecting signatures and counting them mustn’t take months or years, even a “lawyer” should understand that without looking up the exact terms. Talking about 2023 is just silly, Orbán suggested so before he released the ban on referendums for his own one.
Well, Orban could order the referendum for the same time as the gay referendum will be.
It would increase the participation making “his” referendum successful probably.
In any case, I think Orban has this planned and research, and manipulates the public.
“He” manipulates the public? How long has this been an issue here? I’ll have a look.
“Let’s hope that his prophecy for the elections will be accurate as his predictions on Fudan.”
Well, it is almost a guarantee that the opposite will happen.
I will say I have been very impressed at even the limited extent Trump supporting elected Republicans in the area of Wisconsin where Fort McCoy sits have up to now welcomed Afghan refugees. There could end up being as many as 10,000 refugees sent to that fort. See https://news.yahoo.com/fort-mccoy-could-house-many-225305114.html?fr=yhssrp_catchall . Like in Hungary some Republicans want Ft McCoy to be more of a detention center than a welcoming center for refugees from Afghanistan. So we can see last week, Wisconsin GOP Rep. Tom Tiffany advised that the Biden administration should be careful about welcoming refugees from Afghanistan because it “is a dangerous country that is home to many dangerous people.” On Wednesday of last week he warned that “not every Afghan looking to come to the U.S. is a translator. Without a government in Afghanistan, there are gaps in our vetting system. Our immigration officers can’t call the Taliban and ask them to verify people’s backgrounds.” Some other Republican lawmakers have pushed back at calls to keep some refugees, especially those who helped U.S. troops, from entering the country. “We’re talking about heroes who fought with us to take the fight to al-Qaida and the Taliban,” Nebraska GOP Sen. Ben Sasse told Fox News Sunday. “When you… Read more »
“We’re talking about heroes..”
USSR:
Time spent:10 yrs
Time the installed govt lasted-3 yrs
USA
Time spent: 20 yrs
Time the installed govt lasted-3 weeks
As a moment in history, the image of Major General Chris Donahue, departure could be cast alongside that of a Soviet general, who led an armoured column across the Friendship Bridge to Uzbekistan, when the Red Army made its final exit from Afghanistan in 1989.
In contrast, the images of General Boris Gromov, commander of Soviet Union’s 40th Army in Afghanistan, show him walking arm-in-arm with his son on the bridge across the Amu Darya river carrying a bouquet of red and white flowers.
Thats the difference between a democratic country with the possibility of expressing different opinions and autocracy, like Hungary, where is no discussion of issues.
OT: SPD is coming up and CDU and the Greens are weakening in the polls. Pretty interesting.
Most interesting are the consequences for Orbán. Social democrats are for a way stricter treatment than conservatives are.
There is not too much of a difference between Greens and SPD – the interesting question is:
Will there be a coalition without the CDU?
I’m keeping my fingers crossed …
Three Afghans who graduated from Hungarian universities, their lives are in danger, applied to the Hungarian government for help to get out but were turned down.
‘We can help only to people who prove contractual relationship with the Hungarian [armed] forces.’
https://azonnali.hu/cikk/20210831_afgan-diakok-az-azonnalinak-azert-vagyunk-veszelyben-mert-magyarorszagon-tanultunk#disqus_thread
The Hungarian government does not speak about masks, but do not forget to wear them, the fourth wave is here !
Case #1: 20 years old, Received the 2nd Pfizer 3 months ago, infected in a roofless pub. Symptoms: coughing, fever, diarrhea. Treatment: zinc, azithromycin.
Case #2: 89 years old. His grandmother, Received the 2nd Moderna 5 1/2 months ago. In hospital. Treatment: remdesivir, azithromycin.
August 12, Trump to Orban:
“I am grateful for your continued friendship and enduring commitment to fighting for the ideals you and I cherish:
freedom, patriotic pride and liberty.”
“Great job on Tucker (Fox). Proud of you!
Donald”
https://www.facebook.com/orbanviktor
My wife read about this on telex – and immediately broke into laughter! 🙂 🙂
Maybe O1G’s career in politics will end like Donald’s?
Ridiculous? – Of course! – But also degenerated products of dark age political/economic in-breeding and therefore not worth an aftermath, except perhaps: “NEVER AGAIN!”.
Nurzai or Noorzai – a Durrani Pashtu tribe.
Notable members:
Hibatullah Akhundzada, Supreme Commander of the Taliban and Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan
Zalmay Khalilzad,
In September 2018, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo named Khalilzad as the Special Representative for Afghanistan Reconciliation.
On February 29, 2020 he signed the withdrawal agreement with Taliban.
On May 18, 2021, at a U.S. House of Representatives Foreign Affairs Committee hearing: “If they [Taliban] pursue, in my judgment, a military victory, it will result in a long war,”
https://www.internationalaffairs.org.au/australianoutlook/resolving-the-afghan-presidential-dispute/
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/31/us-veterans-afghanistan-fall-taliban
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hibatullah_Akhundzada